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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Solved Highway data updates => Topic started by: si404 on May 05, 2016, 04:13:19 pm
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http://route.transportation.org/Documents/2016%20SM%20Des%20Moines%2c%20IA/Agenda%20and%20List%20of%20Applications%20SM-2016.pdf
Applications are
Alabama US431 Relocation (Anniston)
Arkansas US79 Bearden Relocation
Arkansas US79 Thornton Relocation
Arkansas US79 Fordyce Relocation
Arkansas US79Bus Bearden Recognition
Arkansas US79Bus Thornton Recognition
Arkansas US79Bus Fordyce Recognition
Arkansas I-555 Extension
Florida US441 Relocation (Lake City)
Iowa US6 Relocation (Council Bluffs)
Missouri US60Bus Relocation (Rogersville)
North Carolina I-36Fut Establishment (along US70)
North Carolina US70 Relocation (Beaufort)
North Carolina US158 Relocation (Reidsville)
North Carolina US501 Relocation (Roxboro)
North Carolina I-89Fut Establishment (Raleigh - Hampton Roads)
Tennessee I-269 Extension
Texas I-14 Establishment
Texas US83 Relocation (La Joya-Piñetas)
Texas US83Bus extension (La Joya-Piñetas)
Texas US287Bus Relocation (Mansfield)
West Virginia US33 Relocation
West Virginia Wisconsin US18 Relocation (Waukesha)
Wisconsin US18Temp (Waukesha)
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Struck US 431 as it's already completed and has been addressed in TM.
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Struck the AR US79 entries as they're already completed & addressed in ...CHM.
This continues a pattern of AHTD submitting belated applications for route changes that have been in place for quite some time.
My ToDo list:
TX I-14 Establishment <--Thpft! Disapproved
TX US83 Relocation (La Joya-Piñetas) <--Disapproved.
TX US83Bus extension (La Joya-Piñetas) <--Disapproved.
TX US287Bus Relocation (Mansfield) <--What? Yeah OK whatever. Yecch!
AR I-555 Extension (https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/5788)
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The US 70 and US 501 re-locations will require adjustments to those files and to NC 49 and NC 101 as well. However, neither of these construction projects is actually finished yet.
The US 158 project involves no construction so I will wait until somebody can confirm NC has signed this change, which will affect several routes (US 29, US 29 Bus, NC 14, NC 65, NC 87).
For the Fut36 and Fut89 I will wait until AASHTO has actually approved those before doing anything
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The meeting has been had.
The relevant changes approved are:
Arkansas I-555 Extension
Florida US441 Relocation (Lake City)
Iowa US6 Relocation (Council Bluffs)
Missouri US60Bus Relocation (Rogersville)
North Carolina I-42Fut Establishment (along US70)
North Carolina US70 Relocation (Beaufort)
North Carolina US158 Relocation (Reidsville)
North Carolina US501 Relocation (Roxboro)
North Carolina I-87Fut Establishment (Raleigh - Hampton Roads)
Tennessee I-269 Extension
Texas US83Bus extension (La Joya-Piñetas)
Texas US287Bus Relocation (Mansfield)
West Virginia US33 Relocation
Wisconsin US18 Relocation (Waukesha)
Wisconsin US18Temp (Waukesha)
Texas I-14 and US83/83Bus (La Joya-Piñetas) were rejected.
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The relevant changes approved are:
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Texas US83Bus extension (La Joya-Piñetas)
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Texas I-14 and US83/83Bus (La Joya-Piñetas) were rejected.
From my reading of things, all parts of the US83/83Bus application were rejected. Assuming you left the first line quoted accidentally.
Kinda weird. TXDOT's application made (im)perfect sense to me. Did the committee not realize the new US83Bus ties into existing US83Bus (http://tm.teresco.org/devel/hb.php?r=tx.us083busmca)? Looks like no TXDOT reps were in attendance...
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I've been told that US 6 should be rerouted and IA 192 decommissioned by or on July 1. Coincidentally, that is now about the time that US 71 will be rerouted in Sac County (delayed three times) so I should be able to send all of those together.
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Florida US441 Relocation (Lake City)
Ugh, they should have just rerouted it to fully stay on US-41 there instead of leaving US-41 to just rejoin it again south of town. :-X
Either way, should be straight forward to update once I know when the reroute happens. Just don't know if they will either eliminate or update the signage for US-441 Truck (Lake City) (http://tm.teresco.org/hb/?r=fl.us441trklak).
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Future I-42 signs have appeared on the Clayton bypass and at Cove City, and posts for them were put in the Goldsboro bypass when they built the eastern bit.
Posts for Future I-87 signs have appeared east of I-95, but no signs yet. I don't know whether they will replace I-495 signs
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Is the outlook board still the right place for this?
Are all issues addressed or is anything still open?
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I think US 18 Temp in the Waukesha WI area was never addressed here. But I suspect it has been de-designated or de-signed, now that the permanent Waukesha US 18 bypass (which is in the HB) has opened.
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Florida US441 Relocation (Lake City)
This one is now done since FDOT finally got around to changing the shields.
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North Carolina US70 Relocation (Beaufort)
I know this one was done. mapmikey would have to clarify on US 158 and US 501 though I think they were done as well.
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US 6 in IA (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=ia.us006), US 158 in NC (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=nc.us158), US 501 in NC (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=nc.us501&lat=36.392703&lon=-78.988169&zoom=14), I-269 in TN (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=tn.i269), US 287 BUS (Fort Worth, TX) (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=tx.us287busftw&lat=32.579691&lon=-97.121587&zoom=14), US 33 in WV (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=wv.us033), and US 18 in WI (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=wi.us018) have been done.
I-555 in AR has not been completed. I am unable to clarify on US 60 BUS (Rogersville, MO), but the signage seems iffy based on GSV imagery there. The new routing definitely cannot be truly verified based on GSV.
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I am unable to clarify on US 60 BUS (Rogersville, MO), but the signage seems iffy based on GSV imagery there. The new routing definitely cannot be truly verified based on GSV.
This seems pretty clear. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1178534,-93.0877898,3a,41.5y,128.1h,94.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shTAPKRXEOEPzzUrHbxIQAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Also this. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1124615,-93.0719874,3a,15y,345.21h,91.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKEOJffUZBH-pdcjK334hRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
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I think US 18 Temp in the Waukesha WI area was never addressed here. But I suspect it has been de-designated or de-signed, now that the permanent Waukesha US 18 bypass (which is in the HB) has opened.
I didn't notice any Temporary US 18 shields in Waukesha last summer.
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I am unable to clarify on US 60 BUS (Rogersville, MO), but the signage seems iffy based on GSV imagery there. The new routing definitely cannot be truly verified based on GSV.
This seems pretty clear. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1178534,-93.0877898,3a,41.5y,128.1h,94.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shTAPKRXEOEPzzUrHbxIQAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Also this. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1124615,-93.0719874,3a,15y,345.21h,91.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKEOJffUZBH-pdcjK334hRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
The signs are clear, but that set of ramps is screwy. The EB exit to Business 60 has a frontage road for a significant length before hitting FR 253, which is where the WB ramp also goes.
I think what I am going to do is:
- Close/demote County Line Road, which does not intersect US 60 anymore.
- Put US60BusRog_W at the roundabout-filled exit at Route B/FR 253.
- Create a point for Jamestown Boulevard, approximately where US60BusRog_W presently is.
- Add a point for FR237 (EB off/WB on).
- Redo the business route such that it leaves US 60 at the 253/B bridge and turn at Center Street.
Travelers who don't want to count the loooong parallel EB exit and WB entrance ramp as traveled parts of 60 can use the JamBlvd point.
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Update on I-555: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23703.msg2620096#msg2620096
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I am unable to clarify on US 60 BUS (Rogersville, MO), but the signage seems iffy based on GSV imagery there. The new routing definitely cannot be truly verified based on GSV.
This seems pretty clear. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1178534,-93.0877898,3a,41.5y,128.1h,94.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shTAPKRXEOEPzzUrHbxIQAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Also this. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1124615,-93.0719874,3a,15y,345.21h,91.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKEOJffUZBH-pdcjK334hRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
The signs are clear, but that set of ramps is screwy. The EB exit to Business 60 has a frontage road for a significant length before hitting FR 253, which is where the WB ramp also goes.
I think what I am going to do is:
- Close/demote County Line Road, which does not intersect US 60 anymore.
- Put US60BusRog_W at the roundabout-filled exit at Route B/FR 253.
- Create a point for Jamestown Boulevard, approximately where US60BusRog_W presently is.
- Add a point for FR237 (EB off/WB on).
- Redo the business route such that it leaves US 60 at the 253/B bridge and turn at Center Street.
Travelers who don't want to count the loooong parallel EB exit and WB entrance ramp as traveled parts of 60 can use the JamBlvd point.
This was included in (https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4846).
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I think my changes have been done. Given the number of other items, I don't want to mark it solved without a second opinion.
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I did not see anything in the ARDOT news release about when I-555 signage will be added up to AR 91. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23703.msg2684942#msg2684942)
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Good to know this isn't forgotten about. I'll keep checking in to AARoads for reports of when signage is installed.
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I think my changes have been done. Given the number of other items, I don't want to mark it solved without a second opinion.
From my check earlier this year, all that is left is the extension of I-555.
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Don't know about other people's states, but TX is still waiting on the US83/83Bus La Joya-Piñetas changes. May 2023? (https://www.progresstimes.net/2021/02/28/with-new-highway-about-halfway-complete-penitas-poised-for-growth/)
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Don't know about other people's states, but TX is still waiting on the US83/83Bus La Joya-Piñetas changes. May 2023? (https://www.progresstimes.net/2021/02/28/with-new-highway-about-halfway-complete-penitas-poised-for-growth/)
I guess I was more concerned with other maintainers' states than yours at the end of the day. :-[
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If you want to mark this solved for housekeeping purposes (forget whether you even were doing that with some of these topics), no need for outstanding items in only my states to be a factor in that. I'm tracking these items in the TX & AR Outlook threads, and can stay abreast of them regardless of whether this topic is "open" or not.
I guess, what's a more useful organizational scheme?
• some items, any items, still not implemented in the field yet
• collaborators actively using the thread to track to-do lists
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I guess, what's a more useful organizational scheme?
• some items, any items, still not implemented in the field yet
• collaborators actively using the thread to track to-do lists
Well I know of a US 219 ALT from 2009 that has never been signed in PA (https://web.archive.org/web/20140714121313/http://route.transportation.org/Documents/AltUS219USRN_ElectronicApplication.pdf) for what that is worth...
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Wow, 2009. That beats the US377 Cresson TX bypass, finally under construction, that got approved in 2012.
For designation changes on existing facilities, NH relocated US302 onto I-93 in the CHM era, but it's still signed as just a truck route.
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Personally, I do not have a problem with these threads being solved as long as items are tracked elsewhere. I am more concerned about these items being forgotten by other maintainers that are not as detailed into tracking things as myself and you (referring to yakra).
I just sent an email to District 9 on the US 219 ALT item. I guess either the funding dried up for it, or they moved on to other more important items (which in the world of PennDOT means mostly replacing smaller bridges with poor ratings).
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I just sent an email to District 9 on the US 219 ALT item. I guess either the funding dried up for it, or they moved on to other more important items (which in the world of PennDOT means mostly replacing smaller bridges with poor ratings).
The response I got from District 9 is that US 219 ALT will not be designated any time soon due to lack of funds to upgrade SR 4013.
yakra, if you want to mark this as solved, and track it with your Outlook Threads, I am fine with that since your items seem to be the only ones left.
The other NC stuff (I-42 and I-87) is stuff that I am sure will be addressed in future AASHTO Submissions. Note that we already have I-87Fut in the HB, and we do not plan to add more mileage to usaif.
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Marking AASHTO threads as solved or not doesn't make much difference to me. I'll leave that to others.
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/5788 takes care of I-555 at long last.
I don't know if there are still any outstanding items from this meeting.
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Yeah, I am pretty sure that we are complete with this one.