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Title: turd: Turkey Devlet Yolları
Post by: michih on February 01, 2019, 01:47:44 pm
Map as of November 2018: http://www.kgm.gov.tr/SiteCollectionImages/KGMimages/Projeler/BolunmusYol.jpg
Red: in service, Blue: u/c, Green: planned

Road numbers are not indicated though but I guess it should show all D roads!?

Smaller maps: http://www.kgm.gov.tr/Sayfalar/KGM/SiteTr/Root/Uzakliklar.aspx
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on February 01, 2019, 02:25:59 pm
Thank you! I found the big map, but unfortunately it doesn't show road numbers. The smaller ones are very good, I will double check the roads according to these maps.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on March 10, 2019, 03:41:45 am
D10 Ordu bypass was inaugurated on March 3: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=157265872&postcount=799
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on March 10, 2019, 05:10:23 pm
System is now in preview, however I would to ask you to give me 2-3 days to correct some bigger errors (I forgot to add a few routes for example), before starting reviewing the system.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on March 11, 2019, 02:15:09 pm
hwy_data/TUR/turd/tur.d575.wpt is still unprocessed: http://travelmapping.net/logs/unprocessedwpts.log
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on March 20, 2019, 09:19:02 am
System is ready for review.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on March 20, 2019, 05:15:04 pm
@Si, do you wanna review it? Turkey was yours and I think you are more familar to it.

panda will overhaul Romania next and draft roudj system, that's what I'll definitely review.
I could review turd too but I think it's better when panda has another "teacher", not just me :)

(I could review other systems meanwhile, e.g. Spain or whatever, just let me know...)
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on April 02, 2019, 08:16:40 am
Can we fix near miss points before I review it please?
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on April 02, 2019, 12:01:58 pm
There is no NMP detected: http://travelmapping.net/logs/nmpbyregion/tur.nmp ?
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: yakra on April 02, 2019, 03:30:15 pm
D240 has two adjacent +x19s.
It's raising a little bit of wacky hijinks with the development of the new "traveled" graph format...
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on April 02, 2019, 05:00:47 pm
There is no NMP detected: http://travelmapping.net/logs/nmpbyregion/tur.nmp ?
the northeastern D010/D955 junction ought to be one. Perhaps they are too far apart?
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on April 03, 2019, 03:46:00 pm
There is no NMP detected: http://travelmapping.net/logs/nmpbyregion/tur.nmp ?
the northeastern D010/D955 junction ought to be one. Perhaps they are too far apart?

They are 0.04mi apart but the vector length is more than 0.0005.

Code: [Select]
D955_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.134646&lon=42.853761
D010_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.134880&lon=42.854437

Thus we decided upthread that 0.000500 was a good place to keep the threshold.
The rare cases of unreported NMPs beyond this, I'm content to leave to data managers inspecting their routes, or a site used happening to notice something amiss and posting about it in the forum.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on April 05, 2019, 11:47:30 am
Corrected the NMP(D010xD955) and the D240 X19 DP, should come with the next update.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: yakra on April 07, 2019, 12:39:00 am
Thanks for the fix. Also noticed that D310 has two adjacent +x17s.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on April 07, 2019, 05:30:26 am
Thanks for the fix. Also noticed that D310 has two adjacent +x17s.

Corrected, it's in my next pull request.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on April 17, 2019, 02:59:03 pm
9xxs

general comments - there's various long gaps where shaping points could be replaced with visible points.

D977:  fine
D975Gur: fine
D975: concurrency with E99 between D080 and D100 broken.
D965: Kon -> Koy
D959: fine
D957: fine
D955Bat: fine
D955: fine
D950: fine
D925: points for Ovit Tunnel?
D915: fine
D905: Cey -> I63-29?
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on April 21, 2019, 06:13:48 am
9xxs

general comments - there's various long gaps where shaping points could be replaced with visible points.

D975: concurrency with E99 between D080 and D100 broken.
D965: Kon -> Koy
D925: points for Ovit Tunnel?
D905: Cey -> I63-29?

Implemented these issues, should I reroute D925 through the tunnel?

Regarding the long gaps, there are not so many places in East Anatolia where we now need WPs. I put always one at the intersection with I roads (maybe I or someone else will draft these system in the far future), and at some important intersections in the cities. If someone needs a WP, he/she can request one.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on April 21, 2019, 06:57:52 am
I don't like the policy to avoid hidden wps if they can be replaced by any visible wps which will never ever been used by any traveler. However, I think that D925 should get a wp in Ikidere and we definitely need wps at both ends of the Ovit tunnel. OSM and GM indicate D925 via the old route. wp labels might be OvitTun_N and OviTun_S? I also think that there should be minimum one or two wps b/n I25-82 and D100. For instance at the road to Akcakent south of the lake. Check GSV for a wp label, if there's no sign, use the name of the village: "Akc".
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on April 21, 2019, 08:43:36 am
I don't like the policy to avoid hidden wps if they can be replaced by any visible wps which will never ever been used by any traveler.
I concur.
Quote
However, I think that D925 should get a wp in Ikidere and we definitely need wps at both ends of the Ovit tunnel. OSM and GM indicate D925 via the old route. wp labels might be OvitTun_N and OviTun_S? I also think that there should be minimum one or two wps b/n I25-82 and D100. For instance at the road to Akcakent south of the lake. Check GSV for a wp label, if there's no sign, use the name of the village: "Akc".
Yes - no need to be excessive about it, but likewise there's no need to be excessive the other way.

I certainly understand the impulse to not have points for small village that getting a label for is difficult, and you know that it's unlikely to be used, it just felt like there were places where avoiding a visible waypoint went a little too far.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on April 21, 2019, 09:47:21 am
I don't like the policy to avoid hidden wps if they can be replaced by any visible wps which will never ever been used by any traveler. However, I think that D925 should get a wp in Ikidere and we definitely need wps at both ends of the Ovit tunnel. OSM and GM indicate D925 via the old route. wp labels might be OvitTun_N and OviTun_S? I also think that there should be minimum one or two wps b/n I25-82 and D100. For instance at the road to Akcakent south of the lake. Check GSV for a wp label, if there's no sign, use the name of the village: "Akc".

Put the ones for Ovit Tunnel (the reason why I didn't have at the beginning was that I thought it's not open yet, now I found out that it opened in June 2018). This comes with the next update, the other ones will come tomorrow.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on May 05, 2019, 07:56:45 am
However, I think that D925 should get a wp in Ikidere and we definitely need wps at both ends of the Ovit tunnel. OSM and GM indicate D925 via the old route. wp labels might be OvitTun_N and OviTun_S? I also think that there should be minimum one or two wps b/n I25-82 and D100. For instance at the road to Akcakent south of the lake. Check GSV for a wp label, if there's no sign, use the name of the village: "Akc".

Putted this WPs.

@Si
I am waiting for the next round of review, when you will find time for it.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 05, 2019, 08:14:47 am
Poland's been taking up most of my TM time. I should be able to focus much more on this.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 05, 2019, 10:55:46 am
General point - when abbreviating Caddesi - 'Cad' / 'Cd' have both been used (the latter the pre-existing routes, per the abbreviation used on google maps and some other sources) - change them to all be the same. Also Blvd -> Bul (no d in Bulvari) - also other routes

800s

D805: you have a shaping point right on the intersection with the  Yuvali-Kalkanick Yolu (also concurrent D260) - seems worthy enough to be unhid; O21Bor -> O21(131)
D805Cek: fine
D805Sul: fine
D815: Sam -> Sai
D817: O53Can -> O53(71)
D817Yum: between Nar and Ham OSM has different route; between Dem and Yum OSM has different route
D825: OSM has it going through Hatay
D825Gok: Probably good to have an intermediate visible waypoint
D827: fine
D835: D835Old_x -> OldD835_x
D850: D875_Mal isn't an in-browser D road; D850Old_x -> OldD850_x;
D850Gur: D850 -> D260/D850
D851: AltSarYolu -> D260_W; D851Old -> OldD851 or PinSarYolu_N
D855: fine
D855Kan: fine
D865: fine
D875: extend along trumpet sliproads to meet O-52?
D877: I24-29 -> I24-59
D877Tir: fine
D883: fine
D885: GSJ missing a point south of Trabzon (also concurrent international roads); D883_N and D040/D883 don't have the D883
E98: does it extend along D825 to meet the D817/E91?
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on May 05, 2019, 12:26:42 pm
General point - when abbreviating Caddesi - 'Cad' / 'Cd' have both been used (the latter the pre-existing routes, per the abbreviation used on google maps and some other sources) - change them to all be the same. Also Blvd -> Bul (no d in Bulvari) - also other routes


Before correcting this at all routes, I will like to clarify it, as in the tutorial it's written: "Abbreviate the generic road type (Rd for Road, Blvd for Boulevard, etc.) if it's one of the very common types."  Is this rule just for english names, and doesn't extend to other countries? That's important, because I used Blvd in more systems (roudn, marn and roudj), for road names that translate to Boulevard.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on May 05, 2019, 03:18:22 pm
General point - when abbreviating Caddesi - 'Cad' / 'Cd' have both been used (the latter the pre-existing routes, per the abbreviation used on google maps and some other sources) - change them to all be the same. Also Blvd -> Bul (no d in Bulvari) - also other routes

Before correcting this at all routes, I will like to clarify it, as in the tutorial it's written: "Abbreviate the generic road type (Rd for Road, Blvd for Boulevard, etc.) if it's one of the very common types."  Is this rule just for english names, and doesn't extend to other countries? That's important, because I used Blvd in more systems (roudn, marn and roudj), for road names that translate to Boulevard.

I think that we only use Blvd when the abbreviation of the native word is also Blvd, e.g in French (marn) and Romanian (roudn, roudj).

Edit: We have 140 Blvd hits in Turkey. I could correct it in less than 10 seconds.... Just let me know...
Edit2: The only Blvd in use is ATABLVD for D400 and D515 but none in any active system.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on May 06, 2019, 04:58:12 am
Edit: We have 140 Blvd hits in Turkey. I could correct it in less than 10 seconds.... Just let me know...
Edit2: The only Blvd in use is ATABLVD for D400 and D515 but none in any active system.

It would be perfect if you can edit them. As I use GitHub Web, it would be more difficult for me to correct them, as I need to manually search in every file.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on May 06, 2019, 09:46:04 am
D817Yum: between Nar and Ham OSM has different route; between Dem and Yum OSM has different route

Between Nar and Ham both routes are designated D817 in OSM. Chose here to route over the newer, better road. I changed between Dem and Yum.

Corrected the other issues, should be in with the next site update.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on May 06, 2019, 11:59:46 am
General point - when abbreviating Caddesi - 'Cad' / 'Cd' have both been used (the latter the pre-existing routes, per the abbreviation used on google maps and some other sources) - change them to all be the same. Also Blvd -> Bul (no d in Bulvari) - also other routes

I've replaced 140 Blvd by Bul and 286 Cad by Cd. I didn't break any user list file for active systems but for D routes. I've carefully checked all Cad entries, they were always the last segment of each label, I guess it should always be Caddesi.
I've seen some label names with 4 instead of maximum 3 abbreviations which should be corrected:

D100: AlbNecOkseCd
D140: FatSulMehCd
D200: SehCenTopCd
D400: NukCelErsCd
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 08, 2019, 05:49:15 am
700s

general - some shaping points could be made visible to serve towns - they are literally at road junctions in towns

D705: shaping point at Cicek not quite in the right place (and perhaps could be visible - Cicek seems to be a large-enough place, ditto Apa/Yenisu for shaping point further north, though both are smaller than what I'm talking about in the general point, but the route's not long, so it's not really bloated to have them visible)
D715: several GSJs in Konya need to have points added (including on concurrent routes, where applicable)
D750: D100_E and GerYolu - which one is where the D100 heads east?; O20(Kaz) -> O20(16); Shaping point north of D140_W needs making visible (leads to D140 GSJ); GSJ north of D140_W needs point; GSJ east of BatBul needs point (also D140); D200_E -> D140/D200; GSJs south of HipCd (also D200) need points; O20(Gol) -> O20(7); GSJ serving Tavlioren needs point (also E90); D757_N -> D757_W (?); D757_S -> D757_E (?)
D753: fine
D755: I78-04 -> I78-04_N and I78.04 -> I78-04_S. @michih - can you do a check to see points with . rather than - in and replace? Seems to be on the low numbered routes that aren't concurrent with international routes.
D757: D260 -> D260/D765
D757Ben: move a shaping point or two and make visible - Buyuk Biyik definitely and maybe Sanlikisla or Acikuyu (it's a three visible point route!)
D759: fine
D765: D200_W is off (also other routes); point for Kaymakli
D775: fine
D785Cor: doesn't need the 'Cor' in the abbrev field of turd.csv; make visible the shaping point in downtown Boyabat, the clearest example of the general point I'm making (also concurrent D030); add point for GSJ serving Yeni Hacilarhani
D785Yet: D765 -> D260/D765
D795: Ahu not quite in right place (also concurrent international routes); missing GSJ for Gokcebag (also concurrent D100 and international routes); missing GSJs north and northeast of Corum (also concurrent D180); D190 marked on OSM through Alaca, suggest adding point for that route even if D190 is on bypass

Also, looking at E80, does it take D805? The E95 goes to the D795/D805 junction, and the E805 clearly exists to cut that corner off. Suggest removing D795_N and relabing D805_W and D805_E as D100/D805_W and D100/D805_E.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 08, 2019, 06:33:35 am
600s

D605: fine
D615: fine
D625: fine
D635: fine
D650: GSJs (including u-turn ones) between I54-50 and D150_E need points; likewise the GSJs east and west of Gok, the two between Kar_N and Isa, and the one north of D150_W (all also D150); and the ones south of D150_W, south of Buy, at Sel (current hidden point!), south of Bayirkoy, north of D160_E, at Kuyubasi Yolu (also D160), north of I11-27 (also D160), north of Demirkoy, at Karakoy, south of I11-51, north of D200_W, west of YesYolu (which is off - also E90 and D200), at the Ford factory, at Dutluca, near Kutahya Gar station, at Yunus Emre Caddesi, at Pusan and east of D300_W (also D300 and international routes)
D655: KuzCevYolu is off; GSJ east of O4(19) needs point (also D100); D100/D140 -> D100/D160
D665: fine
D675: fine
D685: fine
D685Agl: fine
D687: fine
D695: D200/260 -> D200/D260; D300_E is off (also doesn't meet corresponding E981 point, despite meeting D300 point);
D696: fine
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on May 09, 2019, 04:36:19 am
Done the corrections, should come with the next site update.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 09, 2019, 04:47:34 pm
500s - basic general point about adding some more visible points applies, but you seem to be adding them in blocks, which is fine.

D505 - fine
D515 - fine
D525 - does O31Ger need to be removed, or D525 truncated, or neither?
D535 - fine
D550 - I35.81_N -> KizYolu; AtaCd -> I35-81; point missing for GSJ just north of D250; ToO30(30/20) -> ToO30(20); point missing for GSJ in Cigli; 16 -> O30(16); MrPasaBul -> MurPasaBul; points missing for GSJs south of MrPasaBul, and south of O30(4) (x3); O31Tor -> O31(21); point missing for GSJ south of D330_E
D550Kes - points missing for GSJ south of D110, south of D17.02 (x2); rename D550_S; does it not extend down to Seddulabahir?
D555 - change city field from Main to Balikesir; probably should be D555Bal with an abbrev, as shorter and less important than D555Tek.
D555Akh - fine
D555Dal - fine
D555Sal - add point for GSJ just north D565; ToD585 is off
D555Tek - add point for GSJ north of O3; several GSJs without points on D110/E84 concurrency; Longest, and most important D555 section - make it vanilla D555 (keep city field, lose abbrev)
D565 - add points for Akhisar bypass south end and for GSJ OzsBul; O33 -> O33_S (and that O33 needs adding, or the labels changed); add points for 2 GSJs north of BesCd; move BesCd to underpass of GSJ; add point for GSJ north of 119Sk
D565Mur - fine
D565Tek - needs a shaping point to make it clear it takes Muratli bypass; add point for GSJ for Yesilsirt
D567 - points for GSJ north of I59-04 and south of BuyCav; Cel -> AtaCd
D569 - fine
D573 - fine
D575 - GSJs without points south of D130, west of I16-03, north of O5(17), in Kurtul, north of FuarCd, southeast of AtaBul
D585 - missing points for GSJs between GumBul and AnkBul; check E87 route/concurrency around Denizli; Kara -> KarYolu
D585Tav - OSM-default shows route bypassing Karacasu
D587 - fine
D595 - D140 -> D160; add point for GSJ at Usak University; add point for Ankara Caddesi (bypass of Usak)?; add points for GSJ at Ibrahim Tahtakilic Caddesi and the two in Usak between BarCd and I64.50*; new bypass of Denizler shown in OSM-Default means I20-05_S is off

Should E87 move out of Aydin, staying on the O31?
Should E881 move off D565 through Manisa and onto O33, or (more likely) O5?

*Can we have a find-replace of Ixx.xx to Ixx-xx please michih?
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 09, 2019, 05:29:09 pm
400s

D400 - GSJ west of AtaBul; GSJ east of PizCd; 2 GSJs between I-33-59 and CavSok (which is a long gap between visible points and probably ought to have had 2 visible points between them anyway); O51 -> O51(9); O51Ser -> O51(52); O51Tar -> O51(42); GSJs between O54(147) and MarFevCakBul; MarFevCakBul -> MFCBul; O52Bir -> O52(161); O52Koc -> O52(181); Tas is off; D380 is off; SirMarYolu is off and should be renamed Iki
D410 - reverse route?; ValiGunOzmBul -> VGOBul; DogGurPasaBul -> DGPBul
D420 - KemPasaCd -> D825_N; D825 -> D825_S
D430 - D380/D400 -> D380
D430Ova - fine

Does E90 take HabYolu?
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on May 10, 2019, 10:37:35 am
*Can we have a find-replace of Ixx.xx to Ixx-xx please michih?

It might be done by using regular expression but I'm not familar with it. Edit: I've done it "semi-automated" now.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 10, 2019, 02:31:56 pm
*Can we have a find-replace of Ixx.xx to Ixx-xx please michih?

It might be done by using regular expression but I'm not familar with it. Edit: I've done it "semi-automated" now.
Thanks a lot, that's great!
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 12, 2019, 12:18:43 pm
300s

D300 - O32Url -> O32(31); MusKemSahBul -> MKSBul; missing point for GSJ south of MrPasaBul (also D550); MrPasaBul -> MurPasaBul; missing point for GSJ east of D550_N; D565_N -> D565 (also change E881 label to D300/D565); missing point for GSJ east of I35-25; missing point at 40Sok (leads to O5); missing point for GSJ west of I35-26; missing point east of I35-26 for Akalan road (leads to O5); missing point for GSJ east of I45-26; missing point for GSJ east of I45-27; missing point for GSJs either side of BarCd; points for Ankara Caddesi? (Usak bypass); I03-76 is off; missing GSJ east of D650_S; I03-25 is off; missing GSJ east of D675; I42-83 is slightly off; missing points for GSJs either side of I42-92 (western one for Koylutolu); ErtYolu slightly off; Dok slightly off; missing point for GSJ south of Dok; missing point for GSJ north of YeniIstCd; YeniIstCd is slightly off and should be renamed; missing point for GSJ west of D715; relabel D300Kay as route not in HB; D300_Ela -> D260_Ela; D260 -> D260_<insert something>; D955 -> D955_N
D302 - fine
D310 - rename D310Tir as spur isn't in HB.
D320 - O31_Ayd -> O31?; D585_DenN -> D585_S?
D330 - fine
D330Elb - D300 -> D825; D825 -> D300
D330Mug - fine
D330Yes - fine
D340 - fine
D350 - fine
D350Ant - D350/D585 -> D585
D360 - missing point for GSJ east of D885_N
D370 - fine
D380 - D400 -> D430
D390 - fine

Does E96/AH87 take O5/D250 rather than D300?
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 14, 2019, 07:27:39 am
200s

D200 - D565_N -> I10-09; D565_S -> D565; 101(O5) -> O5(101); missing points for GSJs between O5(101) and O5_Gor; O5Gor -> O5_Gor; missing points for GSJs east of O5_Gor; missing point for GSJ at I16-51; missing points for GSJs west of IstCd; missing point for GSJ east of BarCd; missing point for GSJ west of 11EylCd; 11EylCd -> 11EylBul; missing point for O22(31); O22 -> O22_E; missing point for GSJ west of Boz (also D650); missing point for GSJ east of UniCd; missing point for GSJ west of BorCd; missing point for GSJ east of Kus; Poyr is off; Yap is off; missing point for GSJ east of BagBul; missing point for GSJ east of AnaBul; D750_N -> D140/D750; missing points for GSJ east of D750_N (they exist on D140); SehAstBul -> D140_E; missing point for GSJ east of SarCd; missing points for GSJs west and east of DogCd
D210 - fine
D230 - missing point for GSJ east of I10-51 (also D555); missing points for GSJs north of D555_S; move AtaBul to intersection
D240 - fine
D240Ber - add point for Soma_E to match Soma_W
D250 - fine
D260 - D300_W -> D300_Afy; add points for Kaman bypass; D300Kay_W -> D300_KayW; MusKemPasaBul -> MKPBul; D300_E -> D300_KayE; D300Kay_E -> ToD300?; remove or rename X74; is there an intersection at I44-05?;
D270 - fine
D280 - fine
D290 - fine

there's still some Ixx.xx points - I'll list them in a second round if they aren't sorted before.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on May 14, 2019, 09:36:07 am
there's still some Ixx.xx points - I'll list them in a second round if they aren't sorted before.

I've done it manually and I'm sure that I forgot some. I'll check it again now.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 14, 2019, 09:44:12 am
100s

D100 - rename D100Ort; missing points for GSJs in Silivri; GSJ in Dizdariye?; GSJs between I34-84 and FirBul on frontage roads, but there's frequent slips from mainline - probably worth adding points for some of them; O3Har -> O3(165); missing point(s) GSJ (or GSJs?) west of 1; O1 junctions, do they need to be in x(O1) format, rather than just exit numbers?; rename D100Ist or add (route worth adding to eursf if it's not signed, but it seems to be at this end); missing points for GSJs between O1 and O2; missing point for GSJ east of AtaCd; missing point for GSJ west of AydYoluCd; missing points for GSJs east of IstCd; O4 -> O4_Geb (or better yet, exit number); missing points for GSJs between O4_Geb and O7_E; ToO5(K5) -> ToO4(5) as we're not using the Ks (also check the exit numbers on O4); missing point for GSJ east of ToO4(5); missing point for GSJ west of 309Sk; missing points for GSJs east of 309Sk; missing points for GSJs east of E80_W; missing points for GSJs east of Cag; missing point for GSJ east of NevAyaz; missing points for GSJs east of D765; I18-03 -> I37-27; missing point for GSJ west of DogYolu; missing point for GSJ east of Mer; rename D100Ama; missing GSJ west of Mez; missing GSJ west of Gok; D885_N is off; D885_N -> D885_W; D885_E -> D885_N; I04-25 -> I04-75
D110 - I59-23 -> I59-53
D120 - fine
D130 - missing point for GSJ east of Yek
D140 - Yuz -> I14-53; missing points for GSJs west of O20_W; missing point for GSJ west of D750_N; missing point for GSJ west of O20_E; missing points for GSJs east of O20_E
D150 - no point on D650/D150 that corrisponds to ToD650; D160 -> D160/D170
D160 - missing points for GSJs between O22 and I16-10; D170 -> D170_E; point west of I14-25 for road leading to D100 GSJ; point for Hurriyet Caddesi (leads to D100/O4 points)
D170 - D160_N -> D160_E
D180 - fine
D180Ank - D180 -> D140
D190 - missing point for GSJ east of Del; make visible point shaping point at west end of Alaca bypass; D805Cek -> D805_W; D805 -> D805_E
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on May 14, 2019, 09:45:00 am
I could only find one:

I15.55 in d330mog.wpt. Fixed locally.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 21, 2019, 08:52:25 am
000s

D010 - missing points for GSJs west of I67-51, at Sucullu, west of MahYol (which can be replaced by point at GSJ), east of MahYol, east of Ger, east of 49Sk (x2); move RecTayBul to overpass and rename I55-28; missing points for GSJs east of Car, west of Mub, east of Mub (x2); move I52-26 to interchange; I28-50 not an intersection; missing GSJ east of I28-04; move I61-75 to the interchange; add missing GSJ west of I61-56; move I61-56 to middle of interchange; missing points for GSJs east of DevSahCd, west of GazCd; RizeCd -> D885; missing point for I61-35; move NecLarCd to interchange; OldD010 -> I61-25; remove I61-29_E; Kiy_W -> I61-29_E; move SenSk to interchange; missing point for GSJ east of Bal; missing point for GSJ west of I53-04; Kiy_E -> Kiy (if point kept); missing point for GSJ east of D965
D014 - Ine needs moving (new bypass)
D020 - point for D570 (and add that route?); missing points for GSJs east of Orc; missing point for GSJ east of Ger; missing point for GSJ east of IGA-1B; O7_W -> O7; missing point for GSJ west of Gok; missing point for GSJ east of MitMah; missing point for GSJ west of O2
D020Sil - junction numbers need 12x(O1) and 8x(O2) format?; missing points for GSJs west of 82, east of 83 and east of 85; O6 -> O7; O6Sil -> O6; Sil -> AgvaCd; KAr capitalisation
D030 - missing point for GSJ east of I78-04; missing point for GSJ east of D755_N
D040 - fine
D050 - OSM shows a westwards continuance due to recent opening of bypasses further along
D052 - fine
D052Erz - international routes take this new bypass, rather than route through city; signage doesn't match OSM's numbering (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.9730147,41.0373349,3a,15y,110.42h,89.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSAswB5tb8V6eLWkuREea8g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)
D060 - D965B isn't in the browser: change labels? (also D965),
D062 - fine
D070 - fine
D080 - OSM marks western portion as both D080 and D957: is it both? if so, extend D957; add point for road leading to Armenian M5 even though the border is closed.

Don't forget the general point about adding a few more visible points - to break up long gaps and to serve larger villages. And I'm going to do another round of review after this.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on May 22, 2019, 02:53:41 am
I am now doing the 100s, I think I will need a few days to finish implementing the changes, can you wait for the second review until I confirm I finished implementing the first round of changes?
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on May 22, 2019, 03:48:06 am
I am now doing the 100s, I think I will need a few days to finish implementing the changes, can you wait for the second review until I confirm I finished implementing the first round of changes?
Of course!
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on June 06, 2019, 02:02:28 am
System is ready for the 2nd review.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on June 23, 2019, 11:41:13 am
D020Sil - junction numbers need 12x(O1) and 8x(O2) format?; missing points for GSJs west of 82, east of 83 and east of 85; O6 -> O7; O6Sil -> O6; Sil -> AgvaCd; KAr capitalisation

O2Sul (http://travelmapping.net/hb/?r=tur.o002sul) is 100% concurrent to D020 in HB*. It's indicated being D020 on OSM but DO16 on GM. I had a quick look at GSV (Jan 2018) and couldn't find any numbering. It should be checked thorough whether O20Sul should be removed. What are our sources for the existance?

There are also no exit numbers on OSM nor GM and I couldn't find anything on GSV (quick check only). That's relevant for D020.

*Edit: The routes are the same but O2 misses the wps reported by Si and I just see that the western extension is also in HB as O1Lib (http://travelmapping.net/hb/?r=tur.o001lib) which is likely the very same issue as O2Sul.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on June 23, 2019, 12:10:35 pm
And some broken concurrencies:
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on July 10, 2019, 07:45:41 am
And some broken concurrencies:
  • O53/E91 east of Ceyhan

Found and corrected all other, but couldn't find this one.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on July 11, 2019, 01:48:15 pm
And some broken concurrencies:
  • O53/E91 east of Ceyhan

Found and corrected all other, but couldn't find this one.

This:
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on August 30, 2019, 06:18:14 am
Second review - an initial overview:

There's a couple of things not addressed from my initial review - the odd point for GSJ missed and stuff like that.

Also the extension of D050 (or reroute of D885) onto the new bypasses (also move international routes) is missing.

D570 seems to have been extended - quite why they couldn't open that when they opened the rest!

There's still quite a few long sections that could be broken up as potential points exist - anything longer than say 15 miles is really worth addressing: and those in the high 20s, 30s and even 40s really ought to have a point should one be possible.

Look at datacheck errors and fix / fp where needed - http://travelmapping.net/devel/datacheck.php?sys=null&rg=TUR (there's some that aren't visible distance)

Address the NMPs - http://travelmapping.net/logs/nmpbyregion/tur.nmp
http://travelmapping.net/devel/datacheck.php?sys=null&rg=TUR
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: michih on August 30, 2019, 06:35:46 am
You also wanna have a look on this when working on Turkey: http://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=3143
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on September 01, 2019, 04:52:27 am
If these things happen, we can activate: :D
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on September 02, 2019, 06:24:38 am
I will deal with these stuff, but I need some time, as I am on travel now until mid October. I will try to do some urgent updates like O5 faster, and then deal with the remaining issues when I'm back home.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on September 02, 2019, 09:33:07 am
No problem.
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: panda80 on December 12, 2019, 09:37:32 am
If these things happen, we can activate:
  • Check construction (D570, D050/D885 and O5 have been mentioned)
D570 corrected, D050 seems to end at D885, even if OSM indicates that D050 is going further west, on the bypass of Gumushane. However, according to the official map, D885 doesn't take the bypass, and the new road is shown as I29-01. I let D885 going through the town, we have to wait until GSV is available there. On D050 there was a construction site between Ispir and Yusufeli, the road was rerouted because of the construction of a dam. Moved the road on the new alignment there.
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  • Deal with the longer VISIBLE_DISTANCE errors - it doesn't matter if the point is some small village, break up the longer ones where possible
Added about 200 WPs in Anatolia, sensibly reducing the number of VD errors.
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  • Deal with other datacheck issues
  • Deal with NMPs
:D
Tomorrow
Title: Re: Turkey Devlet Yolları (turd)
Post by: si404 on December 14, 2019, 05:59:24 am
If these things happen, we can activate:
  • Check construction (D570, D050/D885 and O5 have been mentioned)
D570 corrected, D050 seems to end at D885, even if OSM indicates that D050 is going further west, on the bypass of Gumushane. However, according to the official map, D885 doesn't take the bypass, and the new road is shown as I29-01. I let D885 going through the town, we have to wait until GSV is available there. On D050 there was a construction site between Ispir and Yusufeli, the road was rerouted because of the construction of a dam. Moved the road on the new alignment there.
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  • Deal with the longer VISIBLE_DISTANCE errors - it doesn't matter if the point is some small village, break up the longer ones where possible
Added about 200 WPs in Anatolia, sensibly reducing the number of VD errors.
All looks good!
Title: Re: turd: Turkey Devlet Yolları
Post by: panda80 on December 19, 2019, 02:55:18 am
turd will be active with the next site update.

In the last days I added some other WPs and with this occasion I checked also if the routing needs to be changed. There were some changes because of new alignments, but now it should be fine. However, turd remains a system where there will be a lot of changes in the future due to new construction. I will try to do a check/year, to see if there are also other changes than reported.

Datacheck should be fine and there are no NMPs left.