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Offline Markkos1992

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NJ: US 46 Minor Point Errors
« on: November 11, 2019, 04:26:38 pm »
From east to west:
1.  FortLeeRd should be MainSt. (also affects US 1 and US 9)
2.  EPalBlvd should be PalBlvd.
3.  EHomAve should be HomAve.
4.  ERubyAve should be RubyAve.
5.  The I-95/NTJP Exit seems to be Exit 68 SB.  The 68 label on I-95/NJTP is not in-use so it could become 68A.
6.  Is Gar(xxx) the right label orientation for the GSP points?
7.  PiaAve should be PiaAve_E.
8.  NBevRd should be BevRd.
9.  A graph connection should be added at I-287.
10.  I am unsure why NJ 15 is signed at Bergen St (BerSt).  (This may result in a change to the existing NJ 15 point.)
11.  It looks like the NJ 183 point should be recentered.
12.  A couple shaping points may be useful along the Delaware River to keep the line in NJ.

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Re: NJ: US 46 Minor Point Errors
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2019, 04:31:06 pm »
15 used to begin on Bergen Street and loop right under 46. The current configuration is about 5? years old and I don't know if Bergen is still state maintained.

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Re: NJ: US 46 Minor Point Errors
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2019, 01:39:07 am »
1.  FortLeeRd should be MainSt. (also affects US 1 and US 9)
2.  EPalBlvd should be PalBlvd.
3.  EHomAve should be HomAve.
4.  ERubyAve should be RubyAve.
5.  The I-95/NTJP Exit seems to be Exit 68 SB.  The 68 label on I-95/NJTP is not in-use so it could become 68A.
7.  PiaAve should be PiaAve_E.
8.  NBevRd should be BevRd.
Relabeled.
Recentered PalBlvd at the crossroad, because Texas.


6.  Is Gar(xxx) the right label orientation for the GSP points?
Yes, unless US46 is an exit-numbered route. I believe it's not, but haven't looked for any evidence to the contrary.
Assuming that yes, it's indeed not exit numbered, we go to the Distinguishing otherwise identical waypoints (not for exit numbers) table:
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If an exit numbered highway is a cross road twice, exit numbers in parentheses can be used to distinguish them.
Gar(53) & Gar(56) are even provided as examples for this case. :)

9.  A graph connection should be added at I-287.
Naah. In I-287's case, that's a Misbehaving Parclo.

10.  I am unsure why NJ 15 is signed at Bergen St (BerSt).  (This may result in a change to the existing NJ 15 point.)
15 used to begin on Bergen Street and loop right under 46.
via Clinton St, now a severed connection, hence the closed waypoint there.
This was changed a couple years back.

The current configuration is about 5? years old and I don't know if Bergen is still state maintained.
I asked Steve Alpert about it at the time I made the changes. This bit is still on the books, but our understanding is it's essentially pining for the fjords. "Download" in progress

11.  It looks like the NJ 183 point should be recentered.
Used to be a Joisey Rotary here. Repositioned in both files.

12.  A couple shaping points may be useful along the Delaware River to keep the line in NJ.
Not terribly important IMO.

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Re: NJ: US 46 Minor Point Errors
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2019, 07:09:22 am »
I think I would have preferred GSP(152) instead of Gar(152), but I guess we really do not want GarStaPkwy(152).  I did not see any exit numbers along US 46 at all.

I have been emphasizing the river points for my PA files mainly because I had situations around Pittsburgh (look at an older version of the PA 906 file) where the line kept crossing the Monongahela River.

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Re: NJ: US 46 Minor Point Errors
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2019, 07:34:15 am »
GSP(xx) makes more sense than Gar(xx). Compare with xx(NYST) and xx(MDE) labels on I-87, over the border in NY.

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Re: NJ: US 46 Minor Point Errors
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2019, 03:00:49 pm »
If there were only one junction between the two roads, the appropriate label would be GarStaPkwy, no?

I would thus think it should be GarStaPkwy(152) in this case...

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Re: NJ: US 46 Minor Point Errors
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2019, 05:34:31 pm »
6.  Is Gar(xxx) the right label orientation for the GSP points?
Yes, unless US46 is an exit-numbered route. I believe it's not, but haven't looked for any evidence to the contrary.

I've been across the legnth of US 46 many times in the past year, and nowhere have I seen exit numbers on that highway save for the very eastern end where it's concurrent with I-95 just west of the GWB.

9.  A graph connection should be added at I-287.
Naah. In I-287's case, that's a Misbehaving Parclo.

"Misbehaving" doesn't even begin to cover it.
(OT: The nearby place where I think a graph connection should be added is on US202, near I-287 exit 43, but there's no graceful way to actually do it. traffic going to I-287 southbound from Intervale Rd or Fanny Rd goes on a piece of US202 but no way to accurately record it.)

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Re: NJ: US 46 Minor Point Errors
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2019, 05:28:06 am »
The nearby place where I think a graph connection should be added is on US202, near I-287 exit 43, but there's no graceful way to actually do it. traffic going to I-287 southbound from Intervale Rd or Fanny Rd goes on a piece of US202 but no way to accurately record it.)
Full interchange vs partial interchange notwithstanding:
http://travelmapping.net/hb/?r=nh.us003&lat=43.453184&lon=-71.570799&zoom=15
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