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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2017, 06:30:00 pm »
Where is the B19 from Ulm?
What about B486 to Heidenheim an der Brenz?
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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2017, 03:37:48 pm »
Where is the B19 from Ulm?

The short segment from A8 Ulm-Ost to B10/B28? It was planned to be rededicated w/o any condition by 2015. I couldn't find any info though. It's still indicated to be 'B19' on GM and OSM. All states (Bundesländer) usually have official maps online but I've recently checked if an official map of Baden-Württemberg is available. I found this document. pdfs are only internally available but you can order a printed version. There are 13 pages a 9 €. That means, the latest map (2014 version) costs 117 €......................

There are more B roads in BaWü like this, e.g. B28 west of A81.

I'll wait till the 2015 manual traffic counting result will be published for BaWü (it's currently only available for 9 out of 16 Bundesländer).

What about B486 to Heidenheim an der Brenz?

It's B466: http://tm.teresco.org/hb/index.php?r=deu.b466
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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2017, 06:51:07 am »
Where is the B19 from Ulm?

The short segment from A8 Ulm-Ost to B10/B28? It was planned to be rededicated w/o any condition by 2015. I couldn't find any info though. It's still indicated to be 'B19' on GM and OSM.

It has been rededicated to L1079. 'B19' is removed from signs. Km posts indicate L1079.

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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2017, 04:30:52 pm »
I've started a review of deub system. Well, drafting the next level (Landesstraßen deul) was and is already a kind of a review I've started almost a year ago. Nevertheless, I'll do now:

1. Re-sync waypoints of deua*
2. Re-sync waypoints of deub*
3. Check if deub routes should be split
3. Re-sync waypoints of eufsf*
4. Draft new deul system (if not yet done)
5. Concurrencies check / NMP check / Data check

*Including concurrent eure routes

I'll do it state by state and I think it will still take more than one year. I don't plan to draft other new systems meanwhile but will peer-review some systems.

Once this will be done, I could activate deub system if there are no objections?
Or is anyone willing to peer-review deub system (or the subsequent deul systems which would partially include deub)?
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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2018, 02:43:18 pm »
except B28 and B28a (because it should be rerouted in "Mid 2016" but I couldn't find any reliable info how it should be changed and it's still discussed, no final decision) and a short B32 section which is directly affected by the B28 rededication.

It was finally rededicated.

https://rp.baden-wuerttemberg.de/rpt/Seiten/pressemitteilung.aspx?rid=1073
https://rp.baden-wuerttemberg.de/rpt/PresseAnhang/Karte_Umstufung_Dornstetten_Tuebingen.pdf

The old B28 is now L404, L362, L1362 and B296 between Dornstetten and Tübingen.
The former B28aDor, L370, L355, L355a, B14Hor, B28a, L361 and B28aTub are B28 now. However, it's interrupted by L370 b/n Rottenburg and Tübingen where a new aligned B28 is still u/c till 2020. That means, the western B28 from the French border to Rottenburg is B28 in HB and the eastern B28 from Tübingen to Ulm will be B28Reu after the next site update.

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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2018, 01:13:36 pm »
I've already completed reviewing deua, eursf, eure and deub in 5 out of 16 states (BB, BE, HB, NI and NW). I'll continue with HH and BY.
I've completed drafting 7 out of 13 Landesstraßen (tier 5) systems (deubbl, deubwl, deubyst, deuhel, deunwl, deurpl, deusl). I'll continue with deunil.

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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2018, 06:45:12 am »
The announced deub review is done now. The final pull request is submitted.

The German truck toll will fall due for all Bundesstraßen as of 1st July 2018. On http://www.mauttabelle.de/ ("toll table") all German routes with truck toll are listed. There already was a list for Autobahns and the few tolled Bundesstraßen but I had not expected that a table like this will be published.
I will check the list to ensure that I have all routes in HB and that I don't have rededicated routes in HB.


I have completed drafting 13 out of 14 tier 5 state highway systems. They are in preview now.
Only Thuringian Landesstraßen (deuthl) is left to be drafted. The Thuringian road authority usually publishes a road map each May but the 2018 is not yet available. I'll start drafting the system once the map is online.

When this will be done, I'll activate deub system. As from then, all deub changes will be noted on the update table and I'll try to avoid breaking any user data (renaming waypoints w/o alt labels etc.).

Feel free to request additional waypoints you need to describe your travels.

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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2018, 10:11:45 pm »
DEU-SN B6: should AdeStr_E instead be AdeAll_E ?
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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2018, 11:33:55 pm »
DEU-SN B6: should AdeStr_E instead be AdeAll_E ?

Yep, locally changed for B6 and concurrent B87. The western waypoint @ B2/B6 was already AdeAll_W!?!?!?

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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2018, 03:29:41 pm »
All German Landesstraßen systems are in preview now :)

I've started checking Bundesstraßen system with toll data from mauttabelle.de. You might have noticed that I broke list files when I've changed routes. More routes have been downgraded than I had expected and I've added some short routes.

There is a file on mauttabelle.de containing all toll routes (Autobahn and Bundesstraße) with waypoints and their coordinates. I could convert it so that I can load all routes into our wpt editor. Many Bundesstraßen have hundreds of lines and the wpt editor struggles with handling this data. In total, all deua + deub routes have more than 140,000 lines.

Nevertheless, B1 to B64 are done, B65 to B999 (huge gap between B588 and B999 though) are still to be checked.
I hope I can complete it by the end of September before the file will be updated - I hope I can make a simple Notepad++ comparsion to figure out the changes...

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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2018, 03:22:40 am »
Maybe it would be nice to have a waypoint on DEU-TH B19 at the intersection with Wartburallee? I guess many people are coming from the motorway A4 to visit the castle (like I did), and then turn back. The distance between the points is quite long there.

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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub)
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2018, 10:00:00 am »
Maybe it would be nice to have a waypoint on DEU-TH B19 at the intersection with Wartburallee?

I've added "WarAll". Will be in with my next pull request.

I think that I would also need this point but I don't remember which route we took in pre-Autobahn era back then in 1991... I only remember that we entered TH via B19 (now L3019) and that we drove from Zella-Mehlis to Oberhof. I remember that we talked about the best route but all had disadvantages. And I remember that roads were quite congested that day.

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Re: Germany Bundesstraßen (deub) + Landesstraßen (deuxxl)
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2018, 08:45:44 am »
deub will be active with the next site update.

I'll keep this thread for reporting issues to the 14 Landesstraßen/Staatsstraßen systems (tier 5) in Germany.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2018, 04:12:45 pm by michih »