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Title: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: si404 on May 05, 2016, 04:13:19 pm
http://route.transportation.org/Documents/2016%20SM%20Des%20Moines%2c%20IA/Agenda%20and%20List%20of%20Applications%20SM-2016.pdf

Applications are

Alabama US431 Relocation (Anniston)
Arkansas US79 Bearden Relocation
Arkansas US79 Thornton Relocation
Arkansas US79 Fordyce Relocation
Arkansas US79Bus Bearden Recognition
Arkansas US79Bus Thornton Recognition
Arkansas US79Bus Fordyce Recognition

Arkansas I-555 Extension
Florida US441 Relocation (Lake City)
Iowa US6 Relocation (Council Bluffs)
Missouri US60Bus Relocation (Rogersville)
North Carolina I-36Fut Establishment (along US70)
North Carolina US70 Relocation (Beaufort)
North Carolina US158 Relocation (Reidsville)
North Carolina US501 Relocation (Roxboro)
North Carolina I-89Fut Establishment (Raleigh - Hampton Roads)
Tennessee I-269 Extension
Texas I-14 Establishment
Texas US83 Relocation (La Joya-Piñetas)
Texas US83Bus extension (La Joya-Piñetas)
Texas US287Bus Relocation (Mansfield)
West Virginia US33 Relocation
West Virginia Wisconsin US18 Relocation (Waukesha)
Wisconsin US18Temp (Waukesha)
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: froggie on May 05, 2016, 04:23:12 pm
Struck US 431 as it's already completed and has been addressed in TM.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: yakra on May 06, 2016, 12:09:22 am
Struck the AR US79 entries as they're already completed & addressed in ...CHM.
This continues a pattern of AHTD submitting belated applications for route changes that have been in place for quite some time.

My ToDo list:
TX I-14 Establishment <--Thpft! Disapproved
TX US83 Relocation (La Joya-Piñetas) <--Disapproved.
TX US83Bus extension (La Joya-Piñetas) <--Disapproved.
TX US287Bus Relocation (Mansfield) <--What? Yeah OK whatever. Yecch!
AR I-555 Extension (https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/5788)
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: mapmikey on May 06, 2016, 06:10:31 pm
The US 70 and US 501 re-locations will require adjustments to those files and to NC 49 and NC 101 as well.  However, neither of these construction projects is actually finished yet.

The US 158 project involves no construction so I will wait until somebody can confirm NC has signed this change, which will affect several routes (US 29, US 29 Bus, NC 14, NC 65, NC 87).

For the Fut36 and Fut89 I will wait until AASHTO has actually approved those before doing anything
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: si404 on May 26, 2016, 08:30:47 am
The meeting has been had.

The relevant changes approved are:

Arkansas I-555 Extension
Florida US441 Relocation (Lake City)
Iowa US6 Relocation (Council Bluffs)
Missouri US60Bus Relocation (Rogersville)
North Carolina I-42Fut Establishment (along US70)
North Carolina US70 Relocation (Beaufort)
North Carolina US158 Relocation (Reidsville)
North Carolina US501 Relocation (Roxboro)
North Carolina I-87Fut Establishment (Raleigh - Hampton Roads)
Tennessee I-269 Extension
Texas US83Bus extension (La Joya-Piñetas)
Texas US287Bus Relocation (Mansfield)
West Virginia US33 Relocation
Wisconsin US18 Relocation (Waukesha)
Wisconsin US18Temp (Waukesha)

Texas I-14 and US83/83Bus (La Joya-Piñetas) were rejected.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: yakra on May 26, 2016, 12:07:03 pm
The relevant changes approved are:
...
Texas US83Bus extension (La Joya-Piñetas)
...
Texas I-14 and US83/83Bus (La Joya-Piñetas) were rejected.
From my reading of things, all parts of the US83/83Bus application were rejected. Assuming you left the first line quoted accidentally.

Kinda weird. TXDOT's application made (im)perfect sense to me. Did the committee not realize the new US83Bus ties into existing US83Bus (http://tm.teresco.org/devel/hb.php?r=tx.us083busmca)? Looks like no TXDOT reps were in attendance...
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Highway63 on May 28, 2016, 01:34:56 am
I've been told that US 6 should be rerouted and IA 192 decommissioned by or on July 1. Coincidentally, that is now about the time that US 71 will be rerouted in Sac County (delayed three times) so I should be able to send all of those together.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: rickmastfan67 on June 10, 2016, 01:51:58 am
Florida US441 Relocation (Lake City)

Ugh, they should have just rerouted it to fully stay on US-41 there instead of leaving US-41 to just rejoin it again south of town. :-X

Either way, should be straight forward to update once I know when the reroute happens.  Just don't know if they will either eliminate or update the signage for US-441 Truck (Lake City) (http://tm.teresco.org/hb/?r=fl.us441trklak).
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: si404 on July 15, 2016, 05:19:07 am
Future I-42 signs have appeared on the Clayton bypass and at Cove City, and posts for them were put in the Goldsboro bypass when they built the eastern bit.

Posts for Future I-87 signs have appeared east of I-95, but no signs yet. I don't know whether they will replace I-495 signs
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: michih on May 10, 2020, 12:15:55 pm
Is the outlook board still the right place for this?

Are all issues addressed or is anything still open?
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: oscar on May 10, 2020, 12:37:23 pm
I think US 18 Temp in the Waukesha WI area was never addressed here. But I suspect it has been de-designated or de-signed, now that the permanent Waukesha US 18 bypass (which is in the HB) has opened.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: rickmastfan67 on June 01, 2020, 04:03:15 am
Florida US441 Relocation (Lake City)

This one is now done since FDOT finally got around to changing the shields.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on June 01, 2020, 01:40:44 pm
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North Carolina US70 Relocation (Beaufort)

I know this one was done.  mapmikey would have to clarify on US 158 and US 501 though I think they were done as well.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on February 18, 2021, 05:21:38 pm
US 6 in IA (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=ia.us006), US 158 in NC (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=nc.us158), US 501 in NC (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=nc.us501&lat=36.392703&lon=-78.988169&zoom=14), I-269 in TN (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=tn.i269), US 287 BUS (Fort Worth, TX) (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=tx.us287busftw&lat=32.579691&lon=-97.121587&zoom=14), US 33 in WV (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=wv.us033), and US 18 in WI (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=markkos1992&r=wi.us018) have been done.

I-555 in AR has not been completed.  I am unable to clarify on US 60 BUS (Rogersville, MO), but the signage seems iffy based on GSV imagery there.  The new routing definitely cannot be truly verified based on GSV.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: neroute2 on February 18, 2021, 06:42:32 pm
I am unable to clarify on US 60 BUS (Rogersville, MO), but the signage seems iffy based on GSV imagery there.  The new routing definitely cannot be truly verified based on GSV.

This seems pretty clear. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1178534,-93.0877898,3a,41.5y,128.1h,94.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shTAPKRXEOEPzzUrHbxIQAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Also this. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1124615,-93.0719874,3a,15y,345.21h,91.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKEOJffUZBH-pdcjK334hRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: formulanone on February 20, 2021, 11:33:34 am
I think US 18 Temp in the Waukesha WI area was never addressed here. But I suspect it has been de-designated or de-signed, now that the permanent Waukesha US 18 bypass (which is in the HB) has opened.

I didn't notice any Temporary US 18 shields in Waukesha last summer.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Highway63 on May 24, 2021, 06:39:14 pm
I am unable to clarify on US 60 BUS (Rogersville, MO), but the signage seems iffy based on GSV imagery there.  The new routing definitely cannot be truly verified based on GSV.

This seems pretty clear. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1178534,-93.0877898,3a,41.5y,128.1h,94.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shTAPKRXEOEPzzUrHbxIQAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Also this. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1124615,-93.0719874,3a,15y,345.21h,91.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKEOJffUZBH-pdcjK334hRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
The signs are clear, but that set of ramps is screwy. The EB exit to Business 60 has a frontage road for a significant length before hitting FR 253, which is where the WB ramp also goes.

I think what I am going to do is:

Travelers who don't want to count the loooong parallel EB exit and WB entrance ramp as traveled parts of 60 can use the JamBlvd point.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on May 28, 2021, 09:34:18 pm
Update on I-555: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23703.msg2620096#msg2620096
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on June 02, 2021, 05:24:45 pm
I am unable to clarify on US 60 BUS (Rogersville, MO), but the signage seems iffy based on GSV imagery there.  The new routing definitely cannot be truly verified based on GSV.

This seems pretty clear. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1178534,-93.0877898,3a,41.5y,128.1h,94.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shTAPKRXEOEPzzUrHbxIQAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Also this. (https://www.google.com/maps/@37.1124615,-93.0719874,3a,15y,345.21h,91.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKEOJffUZBH-pdcjK334hRg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
The signs are clear, but that set of ramps is screwy. The EB exit to Business 60 has a frontage road for a significant length before hitting FR 253, which is where the WB ramp also goes.

I think what I am going to do is:
  • Close/demote County Line Road, which does not intersect US 60 anymore.
  • Put US60BusRog_W at the roundabout-filled exit at Route B/FR 253.
  • Create a point for Jamestown Boulevard, approximately where US60BusRog_W presently is.
  • Add a point for FR237 (EB off/WB on).
  • Redo the business route such that it leaves US 60 at the 253/B bridge and turn at Center Street.

Travelers who don't want to count the loooong parallel EB exit and WB entrance ramp as traveled parts of 60 can use the JamBlvd point.

This was included in (https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4846).
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Highway63 on October 30, 2021, 01:19:09 pm
I think my changes have been done. Given the number of other items, I don't want to mark it solved without a second opinion.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on November 29, 2021, 03:11:31 pm
I did not see anything in the ARDOT news release about when I-555 signage will be added up to AR 91.  (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=23703.msg2684942#msg2684942)
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: yakra on December 01, 2021, 11:07:59 am
Good to know this isn't forgotten about. I'll keep checking in to AARoads for reports of when signage is installed.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on December 01, 2021, 11:46:29 am
I think my changes have been done. Given the number of other items, I don't want to mark it solved without a second opinion.

From my check earlier this year, all that is left is the extension of I-555.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: yakra on December 01, 2021, 12:04:41 pm
Don't know about other people's states, but TX is still waiting on the US83/83Bus La Joya-Piñetas changes. May 2023? (https://www.progresstimes.net/2021/02/28/with-new-highway-about-halfway-complete-penitas-poised-for-growth/)
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on December 01, 2021, 12:39:25 pm
Don't know about other people's states, but TX is still waiting on the US83/83Bus La Joya-Piñetas changes. May 2023? (https://www.progresstimes.net/2021/02/28/with-new-highway-about-halfway-complete-penitas-poised-for-growth/)

I guess I was more concerned with other maintainers' states than yours at the end of the day.   :-[
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: yakra on December 01, 2021, 01:17:59 pm
If you want to mark this solved for housekeeping purposes (forget whether you even were doing that with some of these topics), no need for outstanding items in only my states to be a factor in that. I'm tracking these items in the TX & AR Outlook threads, and can stay abreast of them regardless of whether this topic is "open" or not.

I guess, what's a more useful organizational scheme?
• some items, any items, still not implemented in the field yet
• collaborators actively using the thread to track to-do lists
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on December 01, 2021, 01:22:40 pm
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I guess, what's a more useful organizational scheme?
• some items, any items, still not implemented in the field yet
• collaborators actively using the thread to track to-do lists

Well I know of a US 219 ALT from 2009 that has never been signed in PA (https://web.archive.org/web/20140714121313/http://route.transportation.org/Documents/AltUS219USRN_ElectronicApplication.pdf) for what that is worth...
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: yakra on December 01, 2021, 02:29:04 pm
Wow, 2009. That beats the US377 Cresson TX bypass, finally under construction, that got approved in 2012.
For designation changes on existing facilities, NH relocated US302 onto I-93 in the CHM era, but it's still signed as just a truck route.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on December 01, 2021, 03:05:01 pm
Personally, I do not have a problem with these threads being solved as long as items are tracked elsewhere.  I am more concerned about these items being forgotten by other maintainers that are not as detailed into tracking things as myself and you (referring to yakra).

I just sent an email to District 9 on the US 219 ALT item.  I guess either the funding dried up for it, or they moved on to other more important items (which in the world of PennDOT means mostly replacing smaller bridges with poor ratings).
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on December 02, 2021, 08:19:20 am
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I just sent an email to District 9 on the US 219 ALT item.  I guess either the funding dried up for it, or they moved on to other more important items (which in the world of PennDOT means mostly replacing smaller bridges with poor ratings).

The response I got from District 9 is that US 219 ALT will not be designated any time soon due to lack of funds to upgrade SR 4013.

yakra, if you want to mark this as solved, and track it with your Outlook Threads, I am fine with that since your items seem to be the only ones left.

The other NC stuff (I-42 and I-87) is stuff that I am sure will be addressed in future AASHTO Submissions.  Note that we already have I-87Fut in the HB, and we do not plan to add more mileage to usaif.

Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: yakra on December 02, 2021, 12:21:39 pm
Marking AASHTO threads as solved or not doesn't make much difference to me. I'll leave that to others.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: yakra on May 16, 2022, 03:39:04 pm
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/5788 takes care of I-555 at long last.
I don't know if there are still any outstanding items from this meeting.
Title: Re: AASHTO May Meeting 2016
Post by: Markkos1992 on May 17, 2022, 09:23:27 am
Yeah, I am pretty sure that we are complete with this one.