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Title: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Jim on March 31, 2019, 10:29:07 pm
I'm thinking of proposing a session about the METAL project at the next OSM State of the Map US conference, which would also discuss TM.  Has anyone ever been to one of these?
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Jim on May 29, 2019, 08:29:17 pm
I have proposed a talk.  We'll see if they accept it for presentation.
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: yakra on May 30, 2019, 12:27:29 pm
I now see that the OP was posted a day before I read it. :)
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Jim on July 10, 2019, 07:15:44 pm
The talk has been accepted!  Its title is "Travel Mapping and METAL: Maps and Map Data for Fun and Computer Science Education".  The conference is September 6-8 in Minneapolis.
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: mapcat on July 10, 2019, 07:38:22 pm
Cool! Bet we'll get a few new users as a result.
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Jim on August 05, 2019, 10:03:17 pm
So I will have 20 minutes to talk about TM and METAL.  I figure a couple minutes intro, 5-7 minutes on TM, 5-7 minutes on METAL, and then wrap up and take questions.

If you had 5-7 minutes to tell an audience of people who'd attend an OSM conference (map geeks) about TM, what would you highlight?  I'm thinking:


Also, for those who have contributed to the project over the years, I plan to show our list at the bottom of http://travelmapping.net/credits.php .  If you have any objection to your name being included, please let me know.
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: michih on August 06, 2019, 10:11:54 am
I was told that there is a way to map your travels on OSM. I don't know details.
I would point out what's the difference - that we are focused on road systems.
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Bickendan on August 06, 2019, 03:10:01 pm
Jim, let me know if you need my full name for the contributors if my handle's what's listed.
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Jim on August 06, 2019, 05:10:34 pm
Jim, let me know if you need my full name for the contributors if my handle's what's listed.

Completely up to each of you how you want to be listed.  My plan is to use our existing list unless anyone wishes something different, in which case I'll make a TM Contributors slide.
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Jim on September 08, 2019, 01:32:00 pm
TM and METAL got their introduction about an hour ago to an audience of about 25 at State of the Map US.  I don't know if we'll get any users or contributors from it, but people thought it was a pretty neat project.  Thanks again to all of you who make it work!
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Jim on September 08, 2019, 01:36:35 pm
Also, if you're interested in seeing my slides from the presentation, they're here until they get replaced by the next talk about METAL:

http://courses.teresco.org/metal/talk.pdf
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: mapcat on September 08, 2019, 06:39:17 pm
Nice presentation!

Did you learn of any ways to make use of OSM data for TM besides what we are already doing?
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: bejacob on September 08, 2019, 07:32:43 pm
Thanks for posting the presentation.
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Jim on September 08, 2019, 07:34:44 pm
Nice presentation!

Did you learn of any ways to make use of OSM data for TM besides what we are already doing?

Thanks!  I didn't learn anything directly relevant, as most of the talks I saw were people trying to expand and improve OSM's database in various ways and with various tools.  It did make me think if it was worth trying to query the OSM database to get initial traces of routes, and if we had that capability if thinning out a way-too-dense set of waypoints is any easier than plotting it the way we do.  As far as the METAL project, though, it makes me think the idea we've had for a while about being able to bring in extra data like number of lanes, speed limits, etc. might not be as hard as I've thought.

Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Jim on September 11, 2019, 09:15:38 pm
The conference recorded the talks and has made them available on YouTube, in case anyone's interested in checking it out.

It's embedded in the page for my talk on the conference web site: https://2019.stateofthemap.us/program/sun/travel-mapping-and-metal-maps-and-map-data-for-fun-and-computer-science-education.html

Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: bejacob on September 11, 2019, 10:28:57 pm
Thanks for sharing the link to the recording of your presentation. I learned a few things.  :)
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: yakra on September 12, 2019, 12:52:29 pm
Thanks for the shout-out, Jim! I'll be sure to let it go to my head!
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: si404 on September 12, 2019, 03:24:48 pm
Glad Aruba is useful for more than mapping expensive holiday travels! :P

Having a better clue at what you do with METAL was really useful.
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: michih on September 12, 2019, 03:45:47 pm
Having a better clue at what you do with METAL was really useful.

Me too! I watched the whole video. Great! :)

I didn't expect that the algorithms on HDX are so close to what I'm faced to with my professional work.
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: Jim on September 12, 2019, 08:28:29 pm
Glad Aruba is useful for more than mapping expensive holiday travels! :P

Aruba is a favorite for several reasons.

1) early alphabetically in lists
2) nice and small graph
3) mostly short and simple vertex labels
4) oriented more N-S to fit between the other panels in the window
5) has a really short edge you can't see until you zoom in (or notice what you think is incorrect behavior by your algorithm)

Glad some of you are enjoying the video!
Title: Re: Anyone been to an OSM State of the Map conference?
Post by: froggie on September 12, 2019, 10:30:25 pm
Minor nitpick on Slide 11 of Jim's presentation:  Minnesotan's call state (and US) highway routes "Highway xx"...😊

(not that I imagine the bulk of your attendees were from the Upper Midwest...)