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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes

« Last post by neroute2 on April 12, 2024, 01:18:18 am »

I see you added the National Road in Indiana; thanks. It should be split from US 40 for at least two blocks east of US 27 in Richmond, since the alignments are completely different.

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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes

« Last post by shiggins on April 12, 2024, 12:25:55 am »

The route of the Volcanic Legacy Scenic Byway in Oregon between Fort Klamath and Klamath Falls is incorrect. Instead of following OR 62 all the way to U.S. 97, the VLSB leaves OR 62 and continues straight ahead in Fort Klamath, staying to the west of Agency Lake and Upper Klamath Lake before meeting OR 140, which it follows to U.S. 97. The signage matches the route shown on this map on the FHA's website.

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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes

« Last post by neroute2 on April 11, 2024, 08:54:31 pm »

I can't find any LCT shields in Lewiston ID, but another national scenic byway stays on US 12, so perhaps the LCT should too.


Another potential route: The Oregon Trail

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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / TX: PA 1502 (Wurzbach Parkway)

« Last post by SSOWorld on April 11, 2024, 08:53:23 pm »

PA 1502 is more signed that I had thought at first and worth putting in.  It's one of a few Principal Arterial routes and the only signed one that I found in San Antonio (there won't be anymore signed routes since TxDOT abandoned the idea.)

Brian Purcell (Texas Highway Man) has a good write-up on the route here - https://www.texashighwayman.com/wurzbach.shtml

This could be treated like NASA ROAD 1 (displayed as NASA 1 in HB) in that the PA can be placed into a TX Aux shield despite the PA being below the number see - similar to the primary Texas route.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Rz1iTms4zYEKGWaUA <-- east end BGS on I-35
Directional example: https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZSKRf2kLY6MjXFPFA

https://maps.app.goo.gl/8Cvq5TwjjWq6dLV47 <-- route outline

The route is marked consistently (The Texas way at least) on intersections and on trailblazers along the route.  It is is a mixed access road.

** if this was proposed in the past and declined my apologies **

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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes

« Last post by neroute2 on April 11, 2024, 08:21:08 pm »

MD National Road:

Eastbound uses Mulberry and westbound uses Locust in Hagerstown. Neither direction uses Potomac.

Eastbound in Frederick uses East Street, while MD 144 east continues to Franklin. But westbound is the same. So should the overlap be broken or not?

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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes

« Last post by Duke87 on April 11, 2024, 07:07:53 pm »

Also the BC routes need to be moved to a cantr system as those are not in the United States.

Breaking up a connected route because there's an international border there seems dumb. Either we tolerate an International Route in a USA system, or the system becomes natr.

I would be fine with making it natr.

Though, this plus the GSP/PIP drama keeping usanyp from being activated suggests to me that really the ideal would be to have it be possible to have connected routes that span multiple systems. But I can appreciate that this is probably not easy to implement without a massive rework of things due to how each system gets its own _con.csv.

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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes

« Last post by neroute2 on April 11, 2024, 06:34:49 pm »

National Road in WV/PA:

Camino Road in WV, Old National Pike in PA

Old National Pike west of Washington

Old National Pike thru Centerville and east

Main Street thru Addison

Old Route 40 near the Maryland line

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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes

« Last post by neroute2 on April 11, 2024, 06:17:21 pm »

I can't find any National Road signs in downtown Columbus OH; https://gis3.dot.state.oh.us/ScenicByways/HNR.html shows it using either Grant or Drexel, not 3rd/4th. https://www.franklincountyengineer.org/wp-content/uploads/PDF/TravelersGuide.pdf (p. 26) says the National Road originally used High and later moved to Drexel, giving Drexel as the route to follow now.

Bridgeville Drive west of Norwich

US 40 west of Cambridge, NOT Manila Road (but Fairdale Road is signed)

Peacock Road west of Old Washington has a small OLD NATIONAL ROAD TOUR sign (posted by Guernsey County).

This tour sign points right, implying it loops east to use Old National Road thru Old Washington - and this is a bigger sign confirming it.

There's another tour sign on Bridgewater Road west of SR 513, but I don't see any east of SR 513. Perhaps this should be a gap, since half of our route was never the National Road. Or take it on I-70 like https://gis3.dot.state.oh.us/ScenicByways/HNR.html shows, but there doesn't seem to be any signage to the east to and along SR 800 either. So have a gap until I-70 exit 204?

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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes

« Last post by Markkos1992 on April 11, 2024, 05:32:32 pm »

Also, there's a spur for the Seaway Trail in Erie following PA 832.

I saw that when I decided to replace the previous nearby hidden shaping point on PA 832. 

Is there a way for me to prove whether this supposed spur goes into Presque Isle State Park or ends at the state park line like PA 832 itself?  This page seems to indicate that it goes into the park.

I did loop the spur into the park leading to a Duplicate Coordinates Error that I will have to mark as a FP.  https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7328

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Updates to Highway Data / Re: MS US 61 Business (Vicksburg)

« Last post by froggie on April 11, 2024, 05:10:51 pm »

If there's actually a signed Historic US 80 route, I'd be open to adding that given precedent elsewhere (and the usaush system).  But as noted (and discussed previously on the forum), I am not adding Business routes.