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Online neroute2

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WI: some changes in western Wisconsin
« on: February 05, 2020, 02:14:24 pm »
US 53: LacSt -> LaCSt or LaCroSt?

35: WI11 -> WI11_E
35: US61/151 -> US151(1)
US 61: WI11 -> US151(1)
35/US 61: BadRd -> US151(2)
35/US 61: EagPtRd -> US151(3)
35/US 61: CRHHH_Gra -> US151(5)
35/US 61: CRH_Gra -> US151(5A) (yuck, why can't we use 5_S and 5_N?)
35/US 61: US151_N -> US151(8 )
35/US 61: OldUS151 -> NMainSt or MainSt_N
35/US 61: WI133_End -> WI133_Pot
35/US 61: OldWI133 -> CRU_S
35/81: add a shaping point west of CRN_Gra
35: CRU_Gra -> CRU_N, move it southeast
35: WI18/60_W -> US18/60
35: add a shaping point north of WI162
35: US14/61_* -> US14_*? since 61 is north-south
35: US53_Lac -> US53_S? US53_S -> US53(11), CRMH_Lac -> US53(13), US53_N -> US53(15)
35: add a shaping point between US53(11) and US53(13) to match US 53
35: add 3rdSt_W or MainSt_S at the turn in Trempealeau to stay within tolerance
35: add MerSP to stay within tolerance
35: add CRAA_Pie south of CRS_Pie to stay within tolerance
35: CRE_PieS -> CRE_S, CRE_PieN -> CRE_N?
29/35: CRQQ_Pie -> CRQQ_S, maybe add CRQQ_N
35: WI29/65 -> WI29_E
35/65: missing GSJ at CRM_StC north of WI29_E
35: missing GSJ at CRU_StC north of WI65_N
I-94/US 12/35: missing GSJ at 11thSt (or CouRd?) between 1 and 2
35: CRUU_StC -> VineSt, CRA_StC -> StCroSt
35: CRV_StCS -> CRV_S?
35: add a shaping point north of CRV_S
35: WI64/CRE -> WI64(1), CRV_StC -> WI64(4), WI64BusSom_W -> WI64(6), WI64_E -> WI64(9)
35: Old35Hou -> OldWI35Hou? OldWI35_Hou?
35: WI64BusSom -> WI64Bus_W or WI64Bus/VV
35: CRI_PolE -> CRI_E, CRI_PolW -> CRI_W?
35: 220thAve -> CRG_W, CRG_Pol -> CRG_E
35: CRW_Pol -> CRW_E, WI48_W -> WI48/W?
35: move CRU_Bur east
35: SprTr -> CRH_Bur
35: CRT_DouW -> CRT_W, CRT_DouE -> CRT_E?
35: PioRd -> PioTr
35: CRB_DouW -> CRB_W, CRB_DouE -> CRB_E?
35: CRC_DouW -> CRC_W, CRC_DouE -> CRC_E?
35/US 53bussup: +X27 -> 3rdSt_W
35: US53 -> I-535 or I-535/53

35bushol: CRMH -> CRDH/MH

133: OldWI133 -> MainSt_N
133: add a shaping point between RivLnRd and CRN_S to keep it within tolerance
133: +X02 -> SetRd
133: add RamRd north of SetRd to stay within tolerance
133: split CRV into CRV_W and CRV_E
133: +X03 -> HudRd
133: add OhioRd north of CRA to stay within tolerance
133: US18_W -> US18/35?
133: add RailHolRd and IriRidRd north of US18_E to stay within tolerance
133: add SandHillRd south of US61_S to stay within tolerance
133/US 61: CRM/S_Gra -> CRMS
133: add KinLn to stay within tolerance
133: CRT_S -> CRT, delete CRT_N (this realignment was made in 1996, so no need for NorSt east of town)
133: +X06 -> LeaCroRd
133: WI130 -> WI130_S
« Last Edit: April 24, 2021, 05:42:28 pm by Markkos1992 »

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Re: WI: some changes in western Wisconsin
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2020, 05:32:27 pm »
I have considered your suggestions and submitted new files, with the following comments.

35/US 61: BadRd -> US151(2)
35/US 61: EagPtRd -> US151(3)
35/US 61: CRHHH_Gra -> US151(5)
35/US 61: CRH_Gra -> US151(5A) (yuck, why can't we use 5_S and 5_N?)
35/US 61: US151_N -> US151(8)
35: US53_Lac -> US53_S? US53_S -> US53(11), CRMH_Lac -> US53(13), US53_N -> US53(15)
I do not intend to switch to exit numbers on a route that is not all freeway. It creates inconsistency and potential confusion, not to mention that the labels have been the way they are for more than a decade.

35: WI18/60_W -> US18/60
Yes, this is something to fix.

35: US14/61_* -> US14_*? since 61 is north-south
And US 14, the lower number, is east-west. I could see S/N as the south and north junctions of 35 with 14, but as it is I don't think it's wrong.

35: CRE_PieS -> CRE_S, CRE_PieN -> CRE_N?
There are multiple CRE's, this keeps the convention of including the county name.

35: missing GSJ at CRU_StC north of WI65_N
Interchange built since I created the file.

I-94/US 12/35: missing GSJ at 11thSt (or CouRd?) between 1 and 2
As only one ramp, I don't know if this counts since it doesn't have an exit number. I will add it with a name.

35: CRUU_StC -> VineSt, CRA_StC -> StCroSt
Vine Street is CRU, but I'm not sure about A, so I'll change that one. Naturally, both are in use.

35: add a shaping point north of CRV_S
Technically doesn't need one.

35: WI64/CRE -> WI64(1), CRV_StC -> WI64(4), WI64BusSom_W -> WI64(6), WI64_E -> WI64(9)
I do not intend to switch to exit numbers on a route that is not all freeway. It creates inconsistency and potential confusion.

35: Old35Hou -> OldWI35Hou? OldWI35_Hou?
Hmm, my file has Old64 but not Old35. I'll go with the closed point as *OldWI35/64.

35: WI64BusSom -> WI64Bus_W or WI64Bus/VV
This has this name because I made the changes to 35 and 64 at the same time, and didn't see the harm in keeping the names the same.

35: CRI_PolE -> CRI_E, CRI_PolW -> CRI_W?
Differentiates from CRI_Buf, although this is the only one split. I automatically added county suffixes for long routes when I created them to avoid duplicates or future duplicates.

35: 220thAve -> CRG_W, CRG_Pol -> CRG_E
Differentiates from CRG_Tre, although this is the only one that would be split.

35: CRW_Pol -> CRW_E, WI48_W -> WI48/W?
Neither of these is incorrect. I very rarely put in county road names if a higher-level route exists.

35: move CRU_Bur east
I was trying to keep the overall straightness of this segment.

35: SprTr -> CRH_Bur
There is no county road designation on OSM.

35: CRT_DouW -> CRT_W, CRT_DouE -> CRT_E?
35: CRB_DouW -> CRB_W, CRB_DouE -> CRB_E?
35: CRC_DouW -> CRC_W, CRC_DouE -> CRC_E?
None of these are technically wrong. I automatically added county suffixes for long routes when I created them to avoid duplicates or future duplicates.

35: PioRd -> PioTr
Google and OSM both say this is Pioneer Road.

35/US 53bussup: +X27 -> 3rdSt_W
The rest of the street is a block long. It doesn't need to be active.

35: US53 -> I-535 or I-535/53
Given that I-535 is so short (and technically continues south), I thought US53 would alleviate confusion. But with the other US 53 points in the La Crosse area, this change is probably a good idea.

133: add a shaping point between RivLnRd and CRN_S to keep it within tolerance
It's nearly within parameters. Adding any shaping point requires adding four shaping points, which I did.

133: +X02 -> SetRd
133: +X03 -> HudRd
133: add OhioRd north of CRA to stay within tolerance
133: add RailHolRd and IriRidRd north of US18_E to stay within tolerance
133: add SandHillRd south of US61_S to stay within tolerance
Just because a gravel or minor road makes a good shaping point does not mean it needs to be active.

133: split CRV into CRV_W and CRV_E
I did it, but it breaks someone's file.

133/US 61: CRM/S_Gra -> CRMS
I think I misread something way back, just on the grounds that WI trunk roads rarely have different letters.

133: CRT_S -> CRT, delete CRT_N (this realignment was made in 1996, so no need for NorSt east of town)
Ugh. Didn't know that one was that old.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2020, 06:09:15 pm by Highway63 »

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Re: WI: some changes in western Wisconsin
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2021, 05:37:15 pm »
I am guessing that NE2 was going to do the exit numbers for US 151 here. (which leads back to this post: https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=3505.msg23427#msg23427)

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35/US 61: OldUS151 -> NMainSt or MainSt_N

I think that plain MainSt is the best route here.  OldUS151 should really only be used if the route number is in the name of the road.

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35/US 61: OldWI133 -> CRU_S

GSV confirms this.  This should be treated like other county routes. (so CRU_Gra)

Other US 61 Notes:
1.  The shaping point north of WI129_N should be replaced by a visible point at Liberty Ridge Rd (LibRidRd).
2.  The shaping point north of CRT_Gra should be replaced by a visible point at Stenner Hill Rd (SteHillRd).
3.  The shaping points northwest of WI60_E should be replaced by visible points at Marietta Valley Rd (MarValRd) and Childs Hollow Rd (ChiHolRd).
4.  A hidden shaping point should be added around GrayRd as it is barely in tolerance there.
5.  The shaping point north of WI131_S should be replaced by a visible point at Trout Creek Rd (TroCreRd).
« Last Edit: April 24, 2021, 06:56:05 pm by Markkos1992 »

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Re: WI: some changes in western Wisconsin
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2021, 12:29:25 pm »
Some of the changes to WI 35 and US 61 are included in Highway63's latest update (https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4872).

My main comment on WI 35 is the following:

(Note OldWI133->CRU_Gra resulted in duplicate label error. This resulted in further fixes by myself. Also note that it looks like CRU_GraN should be relocated, but I will let Highway63 look into that in a future revision.)


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Re: WI: some changes in western Wisconsin
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2021, 06:08:10 am »
WI35: The southern point was changed to IA/WI which is incorrect. IL/WI instead.
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* Systems: DC, WI
* by US State: AR: I&; AZ: I; DE: I; DC: I, US, DC; IL: I; IN: I*; IA: I, KS: I; MD: I, MA: I, MI: I; MN: I; MO: I*; NE: I; NJ, I; OH: I; RI: I; SD: I; WA: I; WV: I; WI: I,US,WI; (AR, IN pending expansions.)

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Re: WI: some changes in western Wisconsin
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2021, 07:12:35 am »
WI35: The southern point was changed to IA/WI which is incorrect. IL/WI instead.

I did not catch that....  It looks more (based on OSM) to be an issue with the routing of WI 35.

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Re: WI: some changes in western Wisconsin
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2021, 07:32:55 am »
WI35: The southern point was changed to IA/WI which is incorrect. IL/WI instead.

I did not catch that....  It looks more (based on OSM) to be an issue with the routing of WI 35.

Right. WI 35 ends at the Illinois, not Iowa, state line. I made a point of driving that segment last month. So the routing of WI 35's south end needs to be fixed. That would also fix the breaking of my WI 35 list file entry (with no corresponding Updates table entry for the mistaken reroute of WI 35).

On US 61, it being a south/north rather than west/east route, MN/WI should not have been changed from WI/MN. The old label was correct, and even if not, it was a label in use that should've been kept as an alt label to avoid breaking my (and probably other users') list files.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2021, 11:03:01 am by oscar »

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Re: WI: some changes in western Wisconsin
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2021, 12:46:37 pm »
Exactly on WI-35, if it did end in Iowa, You'd be swimming. (assuming not using the US-151 bridge)
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* Systems: DC, WI
* by US State: AR: I&; AZ: I; DE: I; DC: I, US, DC; IL: I; IN: I*; IA: I, KS: I; MD: I, MA: I, MI: I; MN: I; MO: I*; NE: I; NJ, I; OH: I; RI: I; SD: I; WA: I; WV: I; WI: I,US,WI; (AR, IN pending expansions.)

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Re: WI: some changes in western Wisconsin
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2021, 01:17:31 pm »
I emailed Highway63 the corrected files.  I am waiting for clarification on that end before letting Jim pull it in.

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4880/files

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Re: WI: some changes in western Wisconsin
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2021, 08:04:43 pm »
D'oh. That's me copying the entire segment of US 61 onto WI 35. Please fix as needed.