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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usaga: Georgia State Highways
« Last post by neroute2 on February 22, 2020, 10:51:18 pm »
I also confirmed that it's not signed south of there, and mileposts 1 and 2 have been moved to reflect the truncation.

Also, the US 129/11/22 junction at Gray needs to be moved west.
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Updates to Highway Data / MO: MO 46 point request
« Last post by the_spui_ninja on February 22, 2020, 05:54:11 pm »
The point in question is the intersection with Country Club Road on the west side of Maryville; it's a quick way to get to NW MO State from 46.
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Other Discussion / Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Last post by dave1693 on February 22, 2020, 04:39:35 pm »
January was a very quiet month for me, with a return trip from our New Year's family visit yielding only a little new mileage and the only other trip using all previously-traveled roads. February's main trip so far has been to New England where I was able to add more miles and clinch a few highways.

New clinches:
I-395 in MA, I-291 in CT, MA 131, MA 197, CT 74, CT 118, CT 197, WilBroCon in CT, NY 312, NY 301, NY 284, NJ 284. Those last two mean I've clinched the entirety of NJ/NY 284, which along with CT/MA 197 that are also on this list, are I think the first two "two-state multistate same-numbered state routes" I've clinched.

New segments of roads not clinched:
MA 12, MA 16, MA 193, I-395 in CT, US 44 in CT, US 202 in CT, CT 4, CT 39, CT 63, CT 131, CT 169, CT 171, CT 190, CT 320, US 6 in NY, US 9 in NY, NY 17M, NY 52, US 206 in NJ, PA 611.

Automotive troubles seem to indicate that I may not be adding much new mileage for the next few months. Sigh.
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usaga: Georgia State Highways
« Last post by Eth on February 21, 2020, 10:29:14 pm »
So for the next week I'm going to be up in Helen. Is there anything that needs to be checked in the area? I'm already planning on exiting I-75 at Perry to check out whether http://travelmapping.net/hb/?r=ga.ga011busper now has a hanging end.

I just checked Street View to see if it was updated recently enough, and it seems that it is. Looks like there is now an END assembly on GA11BusPer at the intersection with GA7 (old US341) downtown. The route previously turned left here.
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usaga: Georgia State Highways
« Last post by mikeandkristie on February 21, 2020, 07:19:17 pm »
We almost forgot about doing GA 40 Spur as we were staying by I-95 at Exit 3 and got on it, so we got off at Exit 5 and made our way over to it at the main entrance to the navy base.  Went northbound to the boat ramp and turned around.  Saw the initial southbound sign that folks are saying is fairly new.  Then drove the full length southbound.  Saw three southbound signs and one northbound one in my sideview mirror.  Sounds like this is going to get reinstated at some point, so I'll keep my eye out for it.

Mike
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usaga: Georgia State Highways
« Last post by bejacob on February 21, 2020, 02:16:41 pm »
This may have been a misinterpretation of what I wrote in Post #44...I was saying there was no indication of field signage at the north endpoint.

It may have been that. I see the reply on #123 where it was noted the route would be deleted.

Having driven the route end to end, I can attest that there aren't many signs along the. The northernmost one (on the southbound side) appears to be a relatively recent addition, though the others have been in place a while.

I'm suggesting that going forward, GMSV can be a useful tool to confirm the existence of signage, although depending on how recent the images are, even that isn't perfect. Where I think caution is needed is using it to confirm that signage doesn't exist as it can be easy to skip past signs especially on routes that are 'lightly' signed  It's impractical to field check every route, but I feel additional care should exercised when relying solely on GMSV when considering deleting a route due to lack of signs. It's easier to prove a positive (signs exist) than to disprove a negative (no signs anywhere along a route). Mistakenly deleting signed routes does not seem to happen often, but GA40SprStM is not the only time.

I suppose this is just part of the process of getting a state like GA activated. It looks close, and I'll be eager to see it move beyond the preview state. Thanks to all who have worked to get it this far.
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usaga: Georgia State Highways
« Last post by mapmikey on February 20, 2020, 08:13:55 pm »
I still don't understand how GA40Spr got removed in the first place. It seems that during the peer review, no signs were found on GMSV. Knowing that sometimes images there can go years between updates, it might be wise to exercise caution when suggesting a route be removed simply because no signs could be found on GMSV. In this particular case, there WERE in fact signs on GMSV but apparently they were missed by the person reviewing the route.

GMSV might be an okay to confirm the existence of signs on a route, but using it to prove signs don't exist is a bit more difficult (signs are easy to miss when scrolling along a route). Perhaps it would be possible to use GMSV to identify routes that MIGHT need to be removed due to lack of signs and then see if someone is able to do some field research to verify.

Adding routes is one thing. Removing routes because the reviewer didn't find any signs in GMSV is at best troublesome IMHO, as GA40Spr proves. Signs were in place, and they were in GMSV when the review said the route was unsigned. Has this happened with other routes that have been removed for lack of signage?

I've been impressed by the comments in response to requests for changes to the route files. Thanks for making sure that only changes that are necessary actually make it into the HB. I wish the same had been the case for GA40Spr. Oh well. I'm sure it will be added back sooner or later.

This may have been a misinterpretation of what I wrote in Post #44...I was saying there was no indication of field signage at the north endpoint.
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usaga: Georgia State Highways
« Last post by neroute2 on February 20, 2020, 06:06:20 pm »
So for the next week I'm going to be up in Helen. Is there anything that needs to be checked in the area? I'm already planning on exiting I-75 at Perry to check out whether http://travelmapping.net/hb/?r=ga.ga011busper now has a hanging end.
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Updates to Highway Data / Re: IL: some changes in mostly-western Illinois
« Last post by bejacob on February 19, 2020, 07:15:52 am »
A recent update on IL104 changed waypoint 0 from US24 to simply US. Is this correct?

Should it have remained US24 or perhaps been renamed US24/57
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Updates to Highway Data / Re: IA: some changes in eastern Iowa
« Last post by neroute2 on February 19, 2020, 06:51:02 am »
Not everyone is able to drive out to those points to verify.
That's why I showed my work with GSV links.
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