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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #60 on: October 09, 2019, 07:29:07 pm »
SRS references are not gate numbers. They are route designations - they have routes posted in pentagons using numbers, letters or both. If you GMSV the SC 19 endpoint you can find signage showing the intersection of SRS 1 and SRS 2

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2019, 08:45:03 pm »
As of right now, I have reviewed up to SC 303.  (and also have done SC 358, SC 460, and SC 461 as they will have no further changes)

I am planning to take a few days to do some PA/DE work to help let mapmikey catch up a little bit.

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2019, 10:08:44 pm »
I have made changes on all routes up to SC 303 including fixes from the previous submission...

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #63 on: October 17, 2019, 07:07:49 am »
I will look at the rest of the changes later, but I wanted to bring up these Datacheck Errors that have popped up now.  As you have edited SC 302, these routes should not be touched again.

These two are just FPs.  I have no issue putting in these entires myself if it would be easier on you for me to do so. 

sc.sc006trkmon;SC6_W;US52_W;SC6_E;SHARP_ANGLE;137.05
sc.sc019trkaik;SC19_S;SC19;;DUPLICATE_COORDS;(33.523718,-81.719668)

This one can be solved by just making the ArbCt a shaping point on US 1 TRUCK (Aiken) and US 78 TRUCK (Aiken) (though not shown as an error on the latter) as was done on SC 19 TRUCK (Aiken) and SC 118.

sc.us001trkaik;ArbCt;;;VISIBLE_HIDDEN_COLOC;sc.sc019trkaik@+X002

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2019, 10:10:29 am »
You may resolve the FPs and I will submit fixes to US 1/78 Trk routes on my next submission...

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #65 on: October 17, 2019, 05:01:45 pm »

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #66 on: October 17, 2019, 08:19:51 pm »
Comments on last update:
US 29: 
1.  I-385Bs should be I-385BS (if it still exists) or changed to SC183 since SC 183 was extended here.
2.  US29ConGreen should be US29ConGre.
SC 122:  WatParRd should be WatParkDr.  (I somehow forgot to mention this one.)
SC 265:  I still believe that this route should have been flipped based on the direction banners at SC 151.
SC 292:  I did not see the changes for comments 1 and 3.  Comment 2 was taken care of.
SC 295:  DogCluRd should have been changed to DogClubRd.


Other notes:
SC 20:
1.  SC203Trk should be SC203Trk_N.
2.  ColSprCenRd should have been shortened.

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #67 on: October 18, 2019, 05:36:08 pm »
SC 304: (should maybe be flipped)
1.  EMaiSt should be MainSt.

SC 308: (needs to be flipped)
1.  FleMilRd should be FleMillRd.

SC 310: (should maybe be flipped)

SC 315:
1.  I would change S-27-92 to Bellinger Hill Rd (based on the SCDOT Street Finder) as there are no blades showing the number.
2.  LevRd should be LevyRd.

SC 319:
1.  GolLeaRd should be GolLeafRd.

SC 322:
1.  I would add a point at Simpson Rd (SimRd) to keep the line from being right next to US 321.
2.  It looks like Historic Brattonville is worthy of a point at Brattonsville Rd (BraRd).

SC 324:
1.  I would add a point at Holland Rd (HolRd) as the route is dangerously close to going out of tolerance here.

SC 327:
1.  I would add a point at Poor Farm Rd for better shaping.
2.  It looks like the intersection at SC51_N is being relocated looking at the July 2019 GSV.
3.  A point should be added at Planer Rd (PlaRd_E) as the route goes out of tolerance here and seems to be an old routing of SC 327.
4.  FraMarRd should be FraMarRd_S.
5.  EOldMarHwy should be OldMarHwy.

SC 329:
1.  Just noting that the northern end will eventually be affected by the I-85 widening as referenced on SC 18.

SC 332:
1.  TilRd should be TillRd.
2.  SlaLanRd should be SlabLanRd_N.  (based on the SCDOT Street Finder)

SC 333: (posted east-west, does not need to be flipped)
1.  PleHilRd should be PleHillRd.

SC 336:
1.  I would change US17 to US17/278.
2.  I am unsure how to best handle S-27-13 that seems to be in a brief concuurency.  Maybe use the road name Bees Creek Rd (BeesCreRd) (from the SCDOT Street Finder) with two points.

SC 340:
1.  I would add a point at Center Rd (CenRd) for better shaping.

SC 341:
1.  2ndNecRd should be 2ndNeckRd.
2.  NHalMooRd should be HalfMoonRd.
3.  SOldGeoRd should be OldGeoRd.
4.  SIndRd should be IndRd.
5.  SC341_E on US 378 BUS (Lake City) should be SC341_S.
6.  SC341_W on US 378 should be SC341_N.
7.  A point should be added at Lynches River Rd (LynRivRd_E) due to the "TO SC 403 shield"(added 10/22/2019)
8.  RedOakCreRd should be shortened.
9.  +X001 should be visible and made for McNaughton Rd (McNRd).

SC 346: (should maybe be flipped)

SC 357:
1.  HolSprChuRd needs to be shortened.

SC 362: (may need to be flipped)
1.  The SC 217 points should be N and S instead of E and W.
2.  HolRd should be BayViewRd (Bay View Rd) based on the SCDOT Street Finder.
3.  I would make S-5-18 for Farrells Rd (FarRd) due to the old GSV from 2008.
4.  TonHilRd should be TonyHillRd.
5.  I would consider a point at Deacon Rd (DeaRd) (based on the SCDOT Street Finder) as the route is dangerously close to going out of tolerance here.

SC 377:
1.  ShaCorRd should be ShawCorRd.

SC 381:
1.  McCorAve should be McCAve.
2.  KinRd should be KingRd.

SC 385:
1.  FamFarRd should be FamFarmRd.

SC 389: (should probably be flipped)

SC 391:
1.  MaiSt should be MainSt_S.
2.  I would consider a point at Langford St (LanSt) to keep the line off of US 76.  I would not add SC 391 TRUCK despite this shield on US 76 WB just before Langford St.

SC 392: (should maybe be flipped)

SC 395:
1. StoHilRd should be StoHillRd.
2.  I would consider a point at St Lukes Church Rd (based on SCDOT Street Finder) as the route is dangerously close to going out of tolerance here.
3.  MaiSt should be MainSt.

SC 400:
1. SlaLanRd should be SlabLanRd.

SC 410: (needs to be flipped)
1.  The US 701 point needs to be recentered.
2.  I would consider a point at Coats Rd (CoaRd) as the route is dangerously close to going out of tolerance here.
3.  I am unsure if Fair Bluff at FaiBluHwy is one or two words.
4.  I would replace +X001 with a visible point at Elliott Rd (EliRd).
5.  WDogRd should be DogRd.

SC 414 (added 10/23)
1.  I would add points at Goodwin Bridge Rd (GooBriRd) and either Southerlin Rd or Bates Rd for better shaping.

SC 417:
1.  The SC 14 points should be W and E instead of N and S.
2.  I would add a point at Hunter Rd (HunRd) for better shaping. (added 10/23)
3.  PinHilRd should be PineHillRd.

SC 418:
1.  GreRd should be GrePondRd (Green Pond Rd).

SC 420:
1.  I would add a point at Old Shoals Junction Rd as the route is dangerously close to going out of tolerance here.

SC 421:
1.  The SCDOT Street Finder shows SC 421 NB starting at the ramp from US 1 NB/US 78 EB/US 278 EB.  I am inclined to leave the points in this area as-is.  (considering the ramp as just the ramp)
2.  HubClaRd should be HubClayRd.

SC 430:
1.  SC 23 should be recentered.  (also affects SC 23 TRUCK(Edgefield))
2.  EastRd should be EastViewRd.  (also affects SC 23 TRUCK(Edgefield))

SC 441:
1.  SWisDr should be WiseDr.
2.  A point should be added at Shaw Dr due to the direct access to Shaw Air Force Base.
3.  FriDr should be relocated (maybe nearby Oakland Drive) or marked as closed (*FriDr).
4.  RedHilRd should be RedHillRd.

SC 453:
1.  BunForRd should be BunFordRd.
2.  I would add a point at Coach Rd (based on the SCDOT Street Finder) as the route is dangerously close to going out of tolerance here.

SC 462:
1.  BeeCreRd should be BeesCreRd (Bees Creek Rd).
2.  SalRd should be SalLanRd (Salzburg Landing Rd).
3.  BolHalRd should be BolHallRd.

SC 512:
The SC 261 points should be N and S instead of W and E.

SC 513:
1.  CouLinRd should be CouLineRd_N.

SC 517: (needs to be flipped)
1.  HunNecBlv should be HunBlvd.

SC 522:
1.  RicHilRd should be RichHillRd.
2.  McIlwRd should be McIRd.  (also affects US 521)
3.  The SC 522 points on US 521 should be W and E instead of S and N.

SC 527: (needs to be flipped)
1.  EppRd should be EppsRd.
2.  HebRd should be replaced with Springbank Rd (SprRd).
3.  McClaRd should be McCRd.
4.  SC377Con should be SC527Con.

SC 541:
1.  OldNum4Hwy should be Old4Hwy_N.
2.  MarRd should be MaryRd.

SC 544: (needs to be flipped)
1.  DickPonRd should be DickPonRd_W.
2.  I would consider points at University Blvd (UniBlvd) here and on US 501 for Coastal Carolina University.

SC 555:
1.  ColDr should be ColDr_W.
2.  KooRd should be KoonRd.
3.  NBriRd should be BriRd.

SC 557:
1.  I would add points at Glenn Rd (GleRd) and Cross Rd (CroRd) for better shaping.
2.  NParRd should be ParRd.

SC 560:
1.  BusRivRd should be BushRivRd.

SC 576:
1.  US76 should be recentered.
2.  MilSt should be for Bobby L Davis Blvd (BobDavBlvd).
« Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 05:23:50 pm by Markkos1992 »

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #68 on: October 26, 2019, 07:33:40 am »
Comments on last update:
US 29: 
1.  I-385Bs should be I-385BS (if it still exists) or changed to SC183 since SC 183 was extended here.
2.  US29ConGreen should be US29ConGre.
SC 122:  WatParRd should be WatParkDr.  (I somehow forgot to mention this one.)
SC 265:  I still believe that this route should have been flipped based on the direction banners at SC 151.
SC 292:  I did not see the changes for comments 1 and 3.  Comment 2 was taken care of.
SC 295:  DogCluRd should have been changed to DogClubRd.


Other notes:
SC 20:
1.  SC203Trk should be SC203Trk_N.
2.  ColSprCenRd should have been shortened.

US29ConGree is 2 points over from US29ConGreen.  I don't know if there was a US29ConGre previously that precipitated these two designations (I had no involvement with the US route set in SC).  So I elected not to do anything.  A different solution could be to use the street name as part of the suffix...

I did not change SC 265 as a conscious decision because I believe they posted the banners wrong.  However I could find no other intersections on GMSV.  This is also why I did not flip SC 284 - I found another intersection posted as you indicated, then one with it posted west in both directions, then finally one posted the opposite of what you found.

Changes through SC 576 have now been submitted...
« Last Edit: October 26, 2019, 09:23:44 am by mapmikey »

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #69 on: October 26, 2019, 11:24:17 am »
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US29ConGree is 2 points over from US29ConGreen.  I don't know if there was a US29ConGre previously that precipitated these two designations (I had no involvement with the US route set in SC).
ISTR back in the CHM days a bunch of US route connectors were found to be unsigned, and thus removed from the HB.
With no actual routes intersecting here, we'd just use street names, I.E. WadeHamBlvd_S & PineKnoDr.
I also see a US29Spr point label with no corresponding route in the HB.
There may well be other cases lurking around the state (It could be possible with some effort to search for these programmatically, with the caveat that SC's 26 NMP pairs (a relatively small amount, not insurmountable) could throw some wrenches in the works. Or maybe not -- the only bannered US route label in these NMPs is a legitimate extant business route...)

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #70 on: October 26, 2019, 03:35:35 pm »
My criteria for the state route set is that if a CONN route is signed with shields saying TO one of the routes connected then I keep the official connector designation as the waypoint name. If the connector route is actually signed with a connector banner then I give the connector it’s own route file in TM as well.

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #71 on: October 26, 2019, 11:10:48 pm »
A TO isn't a full-on route, though...

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #72 on: October 27, 2019, 04:17:30 pm »
yakra, as a note, I have been using the SCDOT Street Finder to clarify CONN designations.  From what I have seen, I think SC and GA seem to be the only states that regularly use this designation.

I went to the Newburyport meet yesterday so I have not had time to look at anything today.  I am thinking that I should finish reviewing all the routes within the next week or so.

Comments on last submission:  (I am surprised that I found time to do this today.)
Ths US29ConGre discussion can be continued as necessary.

SC 327:  I had recommended PlaRd_E instead of just PlaRd based on the SCDOT Street Finder showing Planer Rd leave the route there.
SC 341:  I had recommended LynRivRd_E instead of just LynRivRd based on the SCDOT Street Finder showing Lynches River Rd leave the route there.
SC 391:  I had recommended MainSt_S instead of just MainSt based on the SCDOT Street Finder showing Main St leave the route there.
SC 410:  FaiBluHwy should be FairBluHwy if keeping the label as two words.
SC 420:  OldSJunRd should be OldSJRd.
SC 513:  I had recommended CouLineRd_N instead of just CouLineRd based on the SCDOT Street Finder showing County Line Rd leave the route there.
SC 517:  HunBlv should be HunBlvd.
SC 557:  I did not see any changes for this route.
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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #73 on: October 27, 2019, 05:23:27 pm »
Waypoint labels should avoid secret highway designations, i.e., designations travelers will not know about by driving and reading signs.
(and on that note...)

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Re: usasc: South Carolina State highways
« Reply #74 on: October 29, 2019, 07:42:53 am »
Waypoint labels should avoid secret highway designations, i.e., designations travelers will not know about by driving and reading signs.
(and on that note...)

However, SC loves to put them on the Street Blades a good chunk of the time, as it's sometimes the official name of the road.
https://goo.gl/maps/Yr7fAkyJv1aaMr368