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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2018, 12:12:43 pm »
It's always possible to track down changes on GitHub, even for preview systems. For instance, the latest itass route name changes can be found here.

@Spinoza: If you are not sure, just ask here and I could try to figure out what you have to change.

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Yes, systems are sometimes very long in preview and undergo a lot of changes, e.g. deub, my first system drafted. I had to learn how to draft systems.
I don't think that we should indicate these changes on the site. That's only done for active systems and the list is already quite long. I think we should try to activate systems earlier. More than 1 year is just too much...

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2018, 05:44:34 am »
Thank you, I didn't realize itass was still in preview. It makes more sense.

It's always possible to track down changes on GitHub, even for preview systems. For instance, the latest itass route name changes can be found here.
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@Spinoza: If you are not sure, just ask here and I could try to figure out what you have to change.

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General note:
Yes, systems are sometimes very long in preview and undergo a lot of changes, e.g. deub, my first system drafted. I had to learn how to draft systems.
I don't think that we should indicate these changes on the site. That's only done for active systems and the list is already quite long. I think we should try to activate systems earlier. More than 1 year is just too much...

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #47 on: May 30, 2018, 04:25:36 am »
Starting next July 3500 km of regional and provincial roads are going to be transferred to the state (ANAS). If I can find a comprehensive list I will post it here.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2018, 10:45:25 am »
Starting next July 3500 km of regional and provincial roads are going to be transferred to the state (ANAS). If I can find a comprehensive list I will post it here.

This is the official list of roads that are in the process of being transferred back to ANAS:

http://www.stradeanas.it/it/le-strade/rientro-strade

For now, only roads in Liguria have been effectively transferred back, starting 1st August:
http://www.stradeanas.it/sites/default/files/pdf/REGIONE%20LIGURIA%20-%20STRADE%20DA%20RICLASSIFICARE_20180731.pdf
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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2018, 07:05:48 am »
SS83 is not just 5 km: the whole 81 km of it is Strada Statale.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2018, 06:03:33 am »
Starting 1st October 2018, 240 km of regional and provincial roads in region Umbria will be re-dedicated as Strada Statale:

Provincial roads:
SP 169 del Pantano, SP 170/2 di Maestrello and SP 172/1 di Corciano which are part of route Pierantonio-San Giovanni del Pantano-Mantignana (20.6 km overall)

Regional roads:
SR3 Flaminia (21.3 km from Fossato di Vico and border with Marche)
SR71 Umbro Casentinese (96 km from border with Lazio to border with Toscana)
SR74 Maremmana (10.5 km from border with Lazio to junction with SR71)
SR146 di Chianciano (0.67 km near border with Toscana)
SR209 Valnerina (29.2 km from Terni to Sant'Anatolia di Narco)
SR320 di Cascia (12.2 km from Cascia to junction with SS685)
SR361 Septempedana (10.5 km from Nocera Umbria to junction with SS3)
SR418 Spoletina (16.4 km from Acquasparta to San Giovanni di Baiano)
SR452 della Contessa (9.5 km from Gubbio to border with Marche)
SR471 di Leonessa (15.7 km from border with Lazio to junction with SS685)

Conversely, some SS roads are transferred to region Umbria:

SS77 Val di Chienti and SS3318 di Valfabbrica (the old routes bypassed by the new expressways which replaced them), 45 km overall.

https://www.perugiatoday.it/attualita/strade-umbria-gestione-anas-mappa.html

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2018, 06:58:36 am »
Also starting 1st October, 150 km of provincial roads in region Molise will be transferred back to ANAS to become Strada Statale (SS).

In Province Isernia:
SP1 (ex SS627) and SP1/var "della Vandra"

In Province Campobasso:
Tangenziale Est of Campobasso
SP "Fondo Valle Rivolo"
SP154 (ex SS87) "Sant'Elia"
SP40 "Adriatica"
SP146 "Falcionina"
SP166 "dei Tre Titoli"
SP159 "Stazione Bonefro-Valle del Biferno"
SP163 (ex SS157) "della Valle del Biferno"
SP139 "Fossaltina"
SP138 "Fossalto-Pietracupa"
SP "Comunità montana"
SP41 "Garibaldi"
SP15 "Trignina"
SP77 "Chietina"

Conversely, some state roads will be demoted to provincial:

To Province Isernia:
some stretches of SS85 "Venafrana" and SS158

To Province Campobasso:
stretches of SS647/dir B "Fondo valle del Biferno", SS645, SS212 "della Val Fortore", SS87 Sannitica", NSA 366, NSA 340, NSA 278, NSA 365, NSA 395

Unfortunately not even ANAS is more precise.

http://www.stradeanas.it/it/molise-dal-1%C2%B0-ottobre-passano-gestione-ad-anas-150-km-di-strade-provinciali


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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2018, 11:19:46 am »
Most of Italian Autostrada routes (active itaa system) do not have numbered exits but use wp label names of crossing routes. Of course, many exits are called "SSxxx". It seems to be right according to OSM and to what's signed in the field but we do not have the SS routes in HB. Just an example: RA13 exit SS14. This SS14 segment is not in HB!

Is it ok or should the wp labels being changed? Or should the SS routes being drafted?

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2018, 09:06:57 am »
Most of Italian Autostrada routes (active itaa system) do not have numbered exits but use wp label names of crossing routes. Of course, many exits are called "SSxxx". It seems to be right according to OSM and to what's signed in the field but we do not have the SS routes in HB. Just an example: RA13 exit SS14. This SS14 segment is not in HB!

Is it ok or should the wp labels being changed? Or should the SS routes being drafted?

In that particular instance, the road USED TO be SS14 but now is classified as SR14. Problem is that many times, on the downgraded route, signs are not changed. OSM itself shows that route as both SS14 and SR14.
In my opinion, the wp labels at motorway intersection should be named as the official exit name, in this case "Sistiana".

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2018, 11:14:57 am »
In my opinion, the wp labels at motorway intersection should be named as the official exit name, in this case "Sistiana".

I agree but it doesn't match our rules :) I think it should be SR14.

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Re: Italy Strada Statale (itass)
« Reply #55 on: October 30, 2018, 09:52:27 am »
SS38VarDel has been extended from its current end in Cosio Valtellino to a roundabout after Morbegno.