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Offline charliezeb

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Re: usanp (U.S. National Park Highways)
« Reply #60 on: June 05, 2018, 03:33:47 pm »
For the record, I got a reply from the NPS about Old Mine Road today.

"Old Mine Road is in fact a "public highway" and is open to through traffic within Delaware Water Gap National Recreation Area, and Sandyston Township. The section you asked about is bordered by private land on both sides of the road.  ( just north of the intersection with Kuhn Road  for roughly 1/4-1/2 mile/ There are 2 privately-owned homes- one up on the hill to the left and the other right along the road on the left, headed north.)  Please respect the owners' property and privacy when passing through.  The road is currently blocked by the NPS due to a large tree that came down across the road in a recent storm.  We are working with the property owners to remove the tree and restore access.  I realize now that we neglected to properly notify the public of this road closure and apologize for any inconvenience that may have caused."

The rep also wrote, "We will be doing some paving work on Old Mine Road this fall so check in to see when it will take place and where." But it may not apply to the "dirt" section between Kuhn Rd and Walpack Rd. More likely, it's the sloping section between CR 602 and NPS 615, and/or the stretch between Pompey Rd and Kuhn Rd.

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Re: usanp (U.S. National Park Highways)
« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2018, 04:05:34 pm »
Park roads need not be paved to belong in usanp. usanp has at least one road (in Alaska) that's mostly unpaved.
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Re: usanp (U.S. National Park Highways)
« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2018, 05:29:38 pm »
Old Mine Road has shields, which is the main reason its included. We might need to cut it short - GMSV isn't very good here (either old or missing).

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Re: usanp (U.S. National Park Highways)
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2018, 01:05:55 pm »
On the Blue Ridge Parkway in North Carolina, the first hidden waypoint west of NC226 is close to the interchange that connects to NC 226 Alt in Little Switzerland. It is signed on the Parkway as To NC 226 A. The hidden waypoint should be replaced with a visible waypoint for HighRidRd. NC 226 Alt has a waypoint for HighRidRd.

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Re: usanp (U.S. National Park Highways)
« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2018, 08:52:47 am »
On the Blue Ridge Parkway in North Carolina, the first hidden waypoint west of NC226 is close to the interchange that connects to NC 226 Alt in Little Switzerland. It is signed on the Parkway as To NC 226 A. The hidden waypoint should be replaced with a visible waypoint for HighRidRd. NC 226 Alt has a waypoint for HighRidRd.
Done. It seems I had it like that as it really efficiently did the shaping and made what is now 6 points (I know, I could have left the old point) just 1 point.
I know this isn't a national park road, but one that could be considered - Woodlands Trace National Scenic Byway.  This (nor the land within) are managed by NPS - instead by US Forest Service, but it is a good park route that goes through the Land Btw The Lakes NRA in both Kentucky and Tennessee - also known (and marked as in OSM/Mapnick) as "The Trace".
I've added this as:
1) it's a decent route to have added (links state routes, etc)
2) NRAs are sometimes NPS-run, sometimes USFS (and one is someone else), so a road in a USFS-run NRA isn't too off-piste. It's not much different to where a city maintains a state route.
3) we're not doing a one route usafs system (maybe it might get moved into a usansb system) - though no doubt someone else will give another example of another one.

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Re: usanp (U.S. National Park Highways)
« Reply #65 on: August 11, 2018, 06:22:02 am »
On Hawaii's Crater Rim Drive, part of the loop is omitted. That part seems to coincide with the area park maps indicate is currently closed due to volcanic activity. But AFAIK that closure is only indefinite, not necessarily permanent, and indeed in 2012 part of the originally closed part of the road was reopened to foot traffic.

I drove the entire loop on one of my first visits to Hawaii ca. 2000. It may be reopened in its entirety, if the crater area calms down again. I would treat the current closure as temporary, and add the rest of the loop.

Also, VocObs => VolObs.
There are portions now that one can consider permanent now as they fell into the grown Halema‘uma‘u crater.  The overlook fell in.

https://www.nps.gov/havo/planyourvisit/images/20180619_overlook_parking_lot_collapse_usgs.jpg (image to large to show here)

The southern and western portions are either gobbled or likely too unstable to be useable when the park re-opens and it might be likely the drive will be closed for years.