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NY125 has a signed bypass in Scarsdale: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9814865,-73.7760668,3a,90y,26.8h,86.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scSnnvXQ3QPYbZUtGBYIeQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Also, NY141's SprBroPkwy waypoint should probably be called TacStaPkwy. Taconic State Pkwy doesn't have an equivalent waypoint for NY141, but since there is a separate exit for it, maybe it should: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1049508,-73.7969026,3a,75y,344.02h,83.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ9JWsPjyX0RsuJmkknZS4Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
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Re: NY: NY125 bypass in Scarsdale / NY141 / Taconic State Pkwy
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2016, 12:24:40 am »
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Re: NY: NY125 bypass in Scarsdale / NY141 / Taconic State Pkwy
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2016, 12:47:39 pm »
Another observation from recent NY travels: why do some parkways, such as the Heckscher (well, Southern) end at the park entrance fee booth, while others (Wantagh, Sunken Meadow, Meadowbrook) end at a location within the park?


Also, are there plans to add any of the other signed LI parkways, or will that depend on NY parkways being moved to their own system?
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Re: NY: NY125 bypass in Scarsdale / NY141 / Taconic State Pkwy
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2016, 02:42:14 pm »
Another observation from recent NY travels: why do some parkways, such as the Heckscher (well, Southern) end at the park entrance fee booth, while others (Wantagh, Sunken Meadow, Meadowbrook) end at a location within the park?
Don't know -- It could be due to going by where a given reference route extends, or where the road with a given name extends, the reference route's extent notwithstanding. And possibly the approach taken was not consistent. Also, maybe these routes were drafted before we had access to, or had found, the NYSDOT Traffic Data Reports or Traffic Data Viewer.
I don't know really; I didn't draft these routes, and am taking a shot in the dark here. (So -- why am I replying, then?  :P)

Also, are there plans to add any of the other signed LI parkways, or will that depend on NY parkways being moved to their own system?
I wouldn't say it depends on parkways being moved to their own system. It could happen either way. I've thought about adding the odd one or two (say, Jackie Robinson Pkwy), but just haven't gotten down and done it.
I'm also not looking forward too much to opening the can of worms about adding whatever other parkways beyond that, or worse yet, making a proper full system out of them.

I've spread myself a bit thin, I think, and oversaturated myself with the project. I also have less time and attention for it than I used to. As a result, out of not wanting to add more to my plate, I've been neglecting NY a bit and not giving it the attention it perhaps deserves.

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Re: NY: NY125 bypass in Scarsdale / NY141 / Taconic State Pkwy
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2016, 03:42:26 pm »
I think the parkways were drafted early (before I got involved) and probably all need a good revamp.  At the time there were some unclear guidelines as to what to include.  I think only freeway segments were in early, but some were expanded.  Doing something about them was always on my list of things to do with CHM, but now that my focus is on site development rather than highway data maintenance, it would remain a very low priority for me.  My own intent was to add all of the parkways statewide that are listed in the traffic data documentation (maybe Appendix B of the Traffic Data Report).

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Re: NY: NY125 bypass in Scarsdale / NY141 / Taconic State Pkwy
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2016, 03:57:53 pm »
Another interesting thing with the parkway fee booths is that fee booth bypasses exist for the Meadowbrook and Wantagh but not for the other parkways as far as I know.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

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Re: NY: NY125 bypass in Scarsdale / NY141 / Taconic State Pkwy
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2016, 12:12:59 pm »
NY125 has a signed bypass in Scarsdale: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.9814865,-73.7760668,3a,90y,26.8h,86.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scSnnvXQ3QPYbZUtGBYIeQg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
In addition, there's another sign at the actual junction. However, there's no signage at the north end. I see nothing on the route itself either, FWIW.
What say ye, guys?

Also, NY141's SprBroPkwy waypoint should probably be called TacStaPkwy. Taconic State Pkwy doesn't have an equivalent waypoint for NY141, but since there is a separate exit for it, maybe it should: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1049508,-73.7969026,3a,75y,344.02h,83.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ9JWsPjyX0RsuJmkknZS4Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Agreed on both counts. Changes made.
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/808

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Re: NY: NY125 bypass in Scarsdale / NY141 / Taconic State Pkwy
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2016, 01:31:25 pm »
Bypass NY 125 is not considered part of the state system by Main Office, making it similar to the bannered Truck routes (which are either Truck NY X or Truck Route NY X, the usage of which appears to vary by region) in NY, so it should probably be handled the same way as whatever we decide to do for the truck routes.
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Re: NY: NY125 bypass in Scarsdale / NY141 / Taconic State Pkwy
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2017, 02:11:07 pm »
From the OP:
NY141/TacStaPkwy
junction has been fixed.
NY125 bypass in Scarsdale is a local & unofficial route, and with very poor signage, I'm opting to leave it out.

Other items:
Discussion of NY Parkways, I'll redirect to the usanyp thread. Some of the questions raised here have since been at least partially sorted out in that thread.
NY Truck Routes: there's at least one other topic regarding these; I'll leave that one open for future investigation; discussion can continue there. There's a link from a post there back to this thread, should we want to reference this again for whatever reason.

Marking as solved & moving to Solved Highway data updates, for housekeeping purposes.