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WI: Business Routes
« on: December 26, 2019, 04:54:07 pm »
I did another field check of a couple more routes - one intentionally and the other "by accident".

US 51 Bus Stevens Point.  I noticed this got truncated to Minnesota Ave on the northern terminus.  If going by maintaining jurisdiction, this is correct (Stevens Point maintains rather than the state).  However, by signage, the rest of the route (Church and Division Streets in Point itself), the signage still exists pretty much along the route length including the freeway exit signs on the mainline.  I believe the truncation in TM is premature based on that and that it should be reverted.

US 151 Bus and US 18 Bus Mt Horeb:  I had previously submitted a correction on this one for its removal, but it seemed to be only removed from the portion east of WIS 92 to the mainline while the western portion had never been cleared or had been restored. I noticed today that the CTH ID east end interchange had a Bus 18/Bus 151 sign salad posted once again.  However, the mainline freeway still does not have the route indicated.  Regardless, It's probably a good idea to put this pair back in.  I did not do a full check since I had to get home and saw the sign after passing the ramp entry.
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Re: WI: Business Routes
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2019, 03:18:48 am »
Stevens Point:
I was just enacting what AASHTO approved. Might there be a miscommunication along the way with WisDOT thinking it had to de-register the business route, but is keeping it signed? I do have the full previous route.

Mount Horeb:
Business 18/151 has been removed from all BGSs. I would classify that as officially the business routes do not exist, but WisDOT isn't going to/can't make the city take the signs down.

I have the files if they really need to be restored.

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Re: WI: Business Routes
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2019, 12:41:08 pm »
The Jan 2019 County maps have both business routes as you have them now in TM (AASHTO Approval).  However this is inconsistent to what is presented with other locally maintained business routes (such as the Bus 151 routes through Platteville, Mineral Point, Beaver Dam and Sun Prairie and the Bus 18/151 through Verona) which do not show up on the WisDOT county maps (Grant, Iowa, Dodge, Dane (2)) However, all of these are signed locally and on the freeway BGSs.  This is true for any locally maintained business route.

Recommend waiting for the 2020 County maps (if they are published - no telling what will happen with the DOT budget's SNAFU). 

From what I see - we have the debate ongoing on "signed" vs "designated".  This certainly applies here.
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