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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #60 on: December 20, 2018, 12:13:55 am »
GMSV shows the Truck bannered signs on both ends, but is from 2013.

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #61 on: December 20, 2018, 06:33:15 am »
^ Is it signed as TRUCK AL 22?  If so, I can add it.

Signed on both ends as of 2013 - https://goo.gl/maps/5bE474RbQLu
Clinched:
I: 4 8 12 16 17 20 26 27 30 40 59 64 66 68 72 73 ew74 77 78 79 82 83 ew84 85 ew86 e88 97 99
US: 4 6N 9W 11E 11W 13 15 19W 21 44 46 48 58 72 92 113 117 123 130 158 163 176 178 192 206 209 211 219 220 221 222 258 264 276 290 311 319 322 340 360 378 401 ew422 501 521 522 601 701
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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #62 on: December 20, 2018, 07:23:14 am »
I've already seen GMSV.  I'd like to see what his more recent observations are.

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #63 on: December 21, 2018, 07:56:20 pm »
As of the last time I was there, a couple months ago, the signs still stand.  Driving a semi, I’m not about to risk not following the signs in the process of clinching a part of a road I don’t have.  😏

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2019, 10:34:08 pm »
Hi Adam,

I was in Maplesville, AL again this week for another load from South Coast Paper.  I came into town via US 82 to AL 22 (thus, entering from the south).  Not only was the Truck AL 22 signs still present, but the sign denoting "Ordinance #82" stating "Thru trucks must follow marked route".  With it raining and me moving, I couldn't get a good picture of the signs.  If you look in Google Maps, they are there where I saw them.

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #65 on: April 18, 2019, 07:44:27 am »
I've been looking though many of the Alabama State routes, and can't think of too many missing points, other than minor roads that some folks* might use as county-line "spinbacks". But unless there's a reason for the roads to be included, I don't know if every county line waypoint should be included.

As per a PM with froggie at AARoads, I've checked out about 1/3 of the usaal roads point-by-point. So far, nothing looks out of place. I see a good number of connections at all other SR's and many of the longer CRs or local roads.

Unfortunately, I can rarely promise a check them in the field for accuracy, because work takes me all over the country, but I take a ton of photos and browse the ALGIS features for reference.


* Weasel word or self-incrimination?...you be the judge.  ::)
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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #66 on: May 11, 2019, 02:06:08 pm »
I'm about 2/3 done - still haven't caught any errors. So far, so good.

Mainly checking to see if one route cross-references another point, and connections between those on the official state maps (which includes a fair number of county routes, where room seems to to permit in some of the less-populated counties).

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #67 on: May 11, 2019, 02:43:02 pm »
There are about 10 NMPs. Mostly where usaal intersect US routes.

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #68 on: May 21, 2019, 09:55:46 am »
^ Details?

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #69 on: May 21, 2019, 02:57:22 pm »
Load al.nmp into HDX. If you don't wanna / can use HDX, let me know...

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #70 on: May 21, 2019, 02:59:53 pm »
Sorry...not in a position to use HDX, hence the ask.

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #71 on: May 21, 2019, 03:31:12 pm »
OK :)
  • US411 wp I-759(4) is off, should be synced with AL759 wp 4
  • US280 wp US231/25 is off, should be synced with US231/AL25 wps
  • US80 wp AL81_SB and US29/US80 wps AL81_NB should be merged into AL81 wp, there are just two one-way streets. US29 wp AL81_NB is in use, US80 wps AL81_NB and AL81_SB are in use. However, you can use them as alt labels for the only wp.
  • AL22/US80BusSel wp US80/14 is off, should be synced with AL14, AL22TrkSel and US80 wp
  • US80BusSel wp US80/41 is off, should be synced with US80 and AL41 wp
  • US84 / US43 wps should be synced
  • AL134 wp US431_N and US431 wp AL134/173 should be synced (btw: why 173 in wp name?)
  • Are US231, US411 and AL23 wps in Ashville intended? I think so, let me know and I mark it FP.
  • AL176 has two shaping points +x02 and +x03 close together. Is it intended? If so, I can mark it FP.
  • Same at AL25 +x25 and +x26, intended?
  • AL167 wps AL/FL and CR9 seem to be intended too. Mark FP?

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #72 on: May 21, 2019, 09:05:21 pm »
Sorry...not in a position to use HDX, hence the ask.

One other approach is to look at http://travelmapping.net/logs/nmpbyregion/al.nmp, which will show all near-matches in Alabama including many just between non-usaal routes. That's what I use, never having given HDX a try. Disadvantage is that if the mismatch is too big, it won't be a "near miss" and so won't be flagged.

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #73 on: Yesterday at 07:00:09 am »
Sorry...not in a position to use HDX, hence the ask.

One other approach is to look at http://travelmapping.net/logs/nmpbyregion/al.nmp, which will show all near-matches in Alabama including many just between non-usaal routes. That's what I use, never having given HDX a try. Disadvantage is that if the mismatch is too big, it won't be a "near miss" and so won't be flagged.

The ones that do not get flagged is part of why I have been doing an overhaul of the routes in PA and DE.  I still have not touched HDX to this point.

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Re: usaal: Alabama State Routes
« Reply #74 on: Yesterday at 10:46:36 am »
AL134 wp US431_N and US431 wp AL134/173 should be synced (btw: why 173 in wp name?)

134 and 173 are concurrent, with 173 ending here. I think that's an artifact of 134 previously running through Headland on Church Street, as I seem to recall it doing maybe 10 years or so ago. (I used to drive this part of US 431 pretty frequently.)

Though by the same token, I suppose that also means AL134's waypoint AL173 should be renamed to AL173_N.