Rest of America Master Thread

[michih]

List of potential systems (Grey=no potential system, Black=to be checked or not yet drafted (not in HB), Red=devel, Orange=preview, Chocolate=review requested, Green=active).

abwrt - Aruba Routes
aia? - Anguilla ?
argrn - Argentina Rutas Nacionales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
atg? - Antigua and Barbuda ?
bes? - Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba ?
bhs? - Bahamas ?
blm - Saint Barthelemy is part of Guadeloupe's numbering system
blzar - Belize National Routes (mapmikey) reviewer: t.b.d.
blzd - Belize District Routes (mapmikey) reviewer: t.b.d.
bmu? - Bermuda ?
bolf - Bolivia Red Vial Fundamental (signed?)
brabr - Brazil Rodovias Federais (michih)
brbh - Barbados Highways
chlrn - Chile Rutas Nacionales
colrn - Colombia Red Nacional de Carreteras (signed?)
crir - Costa Rica Rutas Nacionales
cuba - Cuba Autopista
cubn - Cuba Main Roads
cuw? - Curacao ?
cyma - Cayman Island A Roads (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.
dma? - Dominica ?
dom? - Dominican Republic Main Roads
ecue Ecuador Primerias Red Vial Estatal (michih)
flka - Falkland Islands A Roads (numbered?)
flkb - Falkland Islands B Roads (numbered?)
glpn - Guadeloupe Routes Nationales
glpd - Guadeloupe Routes Départementales (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.
grd? - Grenada ?
grl? - Greenland ?
gtmrn - Guatemala National Roads
gufn - French Guiana Routes Nationales
gufd - French Guiana Routes Départementales (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.
guy? - Guyana ?
hdn? - Honduras Rutas Nacionales
htirn - Haiti Routes Nationales
jamt - Jamaica Motorways
jama - Jamaica A Roads
jamb - Jamaica B Roads (si404)
kna? - St Kitts and Nevis ?
lca? - St Lucia ?
maf - Saint Martin is part of Guadeloupe's numbering system
mexd - Mexico Federal Expressways
mexed - Mexico State Expressways (split into multiple systems?)
mexf - Mexico Federal Highways
mexe - Mexico Carretera Estatal (multiple systems)
msr? - Montserrat ?
mtqa - Martinique Autoroutes
mtqn - Martinique Routes Nationales
mtqd - Martinique Routes Départementales (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.
naca - Central America Highways (country code NA for North America)
nicnic - Nicaragua National Roads
pan? - Panama National Highways
perpe - Peru Carreteras Nacionales (signed?)
prypy - Paraguay Rutas Nacionales (signed?)
slvrn - El Salvador Rutas Nacionales
spmn - Saint Pierre and Miquelon Routes Territoriales
sur? - Suriname ?
sxm? - Sint Maarten ?
tcaa - Turks and Caicos Islands A Roads
tcab - Turks and Caicos Islands B Roads
ttoh - Trinidad and Tobago Highways (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.
ttomr - Trinidad and Tobago Main Roads (si404) reviewer: t.b.d.
uryrn - Uruguay Rutas Nacionales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d.
vct? - St Vincent and the Grenadines ?
vent - Venezuela Rutas Nacionales (signed?)
vgb - British Virgin Islands (no system)

[Duke87]

Chile Rutas Nacionales do not appear to be signed particularly thoroughly, but signs do exist. Also sometimes text instead of shield.

[michih]

but signs do exist. Also sometimes text instead of shield.

I think that's common all over SA. For instance, ARG and URY routes are signed "well" but not "thoroughly" as we are used from other countries.

[vdeane]

Any plans to include the Autopista systems for Chile and Argentina?  They're wholly concurrent with the other numbered routes, but there is precedent for that (New Zealand).

[the_spui_ninja]

Peru (at least near Cusco and Puno) has not very good signage...

[michih]

Any plans to include the Autopista systems for Chile and Argentina?  They're wholly concurrent with the other numbered routes, but there is precedent for that (New Zealand).

I don't like this policy and it's different to Nea Zealand now:

If all routes are concurrent to SH roads, then what's the point of having this system at all? If that's the case, I'd say scrap it.

Because it was drafted a good year beforehand? Also, nzlsh is a long way off preview status and I can always merge it in when nzlsh is activated if we don't want to highlight that these roads are motorways (or throw into a ocesm grab-bag system with Australian named motorways).

I'm pretty sure that we have other systems entirely concurrent with other systems - cantch is AFAICS (OK, cansk doesn't yet exist).

I'll continued drafting argrn system but there are many unsigned exits in Argentina. I need to check GSV but it has issues in some Argentinan regions. That's why I stopped drafting argrn last year. Once I'll have completed the system, I'll check for unsigned routes and add a system like cannf, eursf or usasf.

On the one hand, I like the idea of having the system so that the major freeways are colored blue (it does look odd if a place with a freeway system doesn't have any blue routes).  On the other, it is wholly concurrent, and the distinction of what is and isn't a motorway seems arbitrary to me; I get the sense that it's used more as a legal function and not really meant to be a coherent "system" of routes.

I also like having major freeways colored blue but that's a different point.

[vdeane]

It also allows people who want to track their progress on the freeway system specifically to have a separate map/stats for it.

Regarding Google Maps, it is certainly true that street view in parts of Argentina is rather unpleasant.

[michih]

Ah, thread was renamed to "Rest of America" and many potential systems added. Thanks.

[Duke87]

The British Virgin Islands do not have any signed numbered routes, so no system there.

[neroute2]

Cuba has signed routes; here's a sign for the A1: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo&pKey=Hk5G3vmL5VdRV9lgb3hAGA

[michih]

Cuba has signed routes; here's a sign for the A1: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo&pKey=Hk5G3vmL5VdRV9lgb3hAGA

Sure, that why we have

cuba - Cuba Autopista

on the list.