South America Master Thread

[michih]

List of potential systems (Grey=no potential system, Black=to be checked or not yet drafted (not in HB), Red=devel, Orange=preview, Chocolate=review requested, Green=active).

argrn - Argentina Rutas Nacionales (michih)
bolf - Bolivia Red Vial Fundamental (signed?)
brabr - Brazil Rodovias Federais (michih)
chlrn - Chile Rutas Nacionales (signed?)
colrn - Colombia Red Nacional de Carreteras (signed?)
ecue Ecuador Primerias Red Vial Estatal (michih)
flk? - Falkland Islands ?
gufn - French Guiana Routes Nationales
guy? - Guyana ?
perpe - Peru Carreteras Nacionales (signed?)
prypy - Paraguay Rutas Nacionales (signed?)
sur? - Suriname ?
uryrn Uruguay Rutas Nacionales (michih)
vent - Venezuela Rutas Nacionales (signed?)

[Duke87]

Chile Rutas Nacionales do not appear to be signed particularly thoroughly, but signs do exist. Also sometimes text instead of shield.

[michih]

but signs do exist. Also sometimes text instead of shield.

I think that's common all over SA. For instance, ARG and URY routes are signed "well" but not "thoroughly" as we are used from other countries.

[vdeane]

Any plans to include the Autopista systems for Chile and Argentina?  They're wholly concurrent with the other numbered routes, but there is precedent for that (New Zealand).

[the_spui_ninja]

Peru (at least near Cusco and Puno) has not very good signage...

[michih]

Any plans to include the Autopista systems for Chile and Argentina?  They're wholly concurrent with the other numbered routes, but there is precedent for that (New Zealand).

I don't like this policy and it's different to Nea Zealand now:

If all routes are concurrent to SH roads, then what's the point of having this system at all? If that's the case, I'd say scrap it.

Because it was drafted a good year beforehand? Also, nzlsh is a long way off preview status and I can always merge it in when nzlsh is activated if we don't want to highlight that these roads are motorways (or throw into a ocesm grab-bag system with Australian named motorways).

I'm pretty sure that we have other systems entirely concurrent with other systems - cantch is AFAICS (OK, cansk doesn't yet exist).

I'll continued drafting argrn system but there are many unsigned exits in Argentina. I need to check GSV but it has issues in some Argentinan regions. That's why I stopped drafting argrn last year. Once I'll have completed the system, I'll check for unsigned routes and add a system like cannf, eursf or usasf.

On the one hand, I like the idea of having the system so that the major freeways are colored blue (it does look odd if a place with a freeway system doesn't have any blue routes).  On the other, it is wholly concurrent, and the distinction of what is and isn't a motorway seems arbitrary to me; I get the sense that it's used more as a legal function and not really meant to be a coherent "system" of routes.

I also like having major freeways colored blue but that's a different point.

[vdeane]

It also allows people who want to track their progress on the freeway system specifically to have a separate map/stats for it.

Regarding Google Maps, it is certainly true that street view in parts of Argentina is rather unpleasant.