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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #30 on: December 24, 2019, 04:09:11 am »
DJ131:
DJ132_S is off, should be in the center of the traffic island
DJ131B_S is off
StrPad: Is it a DJ131 branch? GM doesn't have it but OSM and GSV
Exceeds limits b/n +X3 and Var


DJ131C:
DJ131E is off, see WorldImagery


DJ131D:
+X1 -> Dop


DJ131E:
DC66 should be moved to the next junction to the west


DJ132:
Routing around DC31 wp (which is 30 on GM!?) is not clear. Is it the northern route (as OSM) or southern route (as GM)? If OSM is right, I'd add two wps to make it clear that the substandard street is the right one. If OSM is wrong, please report the error to OSM. btw, what's your main source out of the three indicated if data is ambiguous? It should be added to http://travelmapping.net/credits.php

Move DN13 between the branches, again, check WorldImagery
DJ105A doesn't intersect. Extend DJ105A or rename the wp which should be ToDN13


DJ132A:
DJ131A_N --> DJ132_N
DJ131A_S --> DJ132_S


DJ132C:
New wp @ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.120202&lon=25.023076 heading to DN13


DJ134A:
Split it into two routes. Rule of thumb: The concurrency with DN13C is longer than the length of each remainder


DJ135A:
+X3 is off
DC27 is off


DJ135B:
StrBud -> StrBud_N
StrDez -> StrDez_N
Move DJ152A to the center of the roundabout


DJ136A:
Exceeds limits b/n DN13A and +X4


DJ138:
+X1 is off
DJ126_W is off
DN12 is off


DJ138B:
+X1 is off


DJ139:
I'd replace StrDem by StrNicBal http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.939533&lon=26.027741 because of all these one-way streets

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #31 on: December 24, 2019, 08:29:03 am »
DJ140:
DC103 is off
Move DJ156 between the branches
DN72 is off


DJ141:
+X3 is off


DJ141B:
DJ142F is off
Bie -> StrNicBal (or better, replace it by wp for DC24)


DJ142:
DJ151B_S is off
DJ151B_N should be positioned on the traffic island
Move DN14A to the center of the roundabout


DJ142A:
DN14A is off


DJ142F:
+X1 is off


DJ142G:
New +wp +@ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.008848&lon=24.354962


DJ143A:
CopMare is off
DN14 location. You have this unsigned but the signed one looks like a road. OSM has the latter, GM both.


DJ148:
New wp @ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.790706&lon=26.381296


22.19% done!

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #32 on: December 25, 2019, 04:59:42 am »
Note: It is allowed (not mandatory) to keep alt labels in use for preview systems ;)


DJ151:
DJ154D doesn't intersect here. Add or extend route, or rename wp
DN17VO doesn't intersect here. Add route, or rename wp (the direction signs on GSV from August 2018 are quite confusing - DN17/E58 on the bypass or through the town -, and it wasn't changed compared to 2012 GSV)


DJ151B:
+X1 is off


DJ151C:
TriSus -> TriJos


DJ152A:
DN15 location is wrong, it should be at the junction to the east according to OSM, GM and GSV
Exceeds limits b/n +X8 and DN15
+X3 is off
DN13E -> DN15E


DJ152B:
DN13E -> DN15E


DJ153A:
Exceeds limits b/n DN15 and Cal


DJ153F:
Exceeds limits b/n DJ107G and DC93


DJ154:
Move DJ154B to the traffic island


DJ154A:
StrSub -> StrSar


DJ154B:
DN15 location is wrong, it should be at the junction to the south according to OSM, GM and GSV


DJ154C:
DC12A_N is off


DJ154D:
+X2 is off


DJ154J:
DN16 is off


DJ155B:
Exceeds limits b/n DC21 and DN15B_W


DJ155F:
DN15_S is off
+X1 is off
StrPri is off


DJ155I:
DJ158 is off


DJ157E:
Move DN15C between the branches


DJ157G:
StrVet is quite off


DJ159:
DJ159D is off
Bac is off


DJ159Car:
DN2 is off
+X2 is off


DJ159:
Reverse order so that it's a continuation of the other route
+X3 is off


DJ159B:
DC98 is off


DJ159D:
Exceeds limits b/n DC72 and DJ159

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #33 on: December 25, 2019, 06:29:18 am »
DJ112B:
Move DN73 between the two one-way streets
DC44 is indicated being DJ112J on OSM. Please check and if OSM is wrong, please report it.

I don't find any DC44 or DJ112J near DJ112B...I implemented the other changes.

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #34 on: December 25, 2019, 06:31:36 am »
DJ112B:
Move DN73 between the two one-way streets
DC44 is indicated being DJ112J on OSM. Please check and if OSM is wrong, please report it.

I don't find any DC44 or DJ112J near DJ112B...I implemented the other changes.

sorry, it's at DJ112C.

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #35 on: December 25, 2019, 08:36:05 am »
DJ112B:
Move DN73 between the two one-way streets
DC44 is indicated being DJ112J on OSM. Please check and if OSM is wrong, please report it.

I don't find any DC44 or DJ112J near DJ112B...I implemented the other changes.

sorry, it's at DJ112C.

GSV from July 2018 indicates it as DC44. It also doesn't appear in the official list.

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2019, 03:27:39 am »
DJ161B:
DN1/15 -> DN1_W
Add the missing DN1/15 wp


DJ161C:
DN1C_N is off, should be on the main route between the branches


DJ161D:
+X2A is off
DJ161E is off


DJ161G:
Cai is off
DJ161K is off, check Esri WorldImagery


DJ161H:
DN16 is off
DC48 is off


DJ161J:
DN16 is off


DJ162:
Routing through Visuia? If I would travel the route, I would shortcut it and would need two wps east of DC21_W on the "main route".
DC21_E is off


DJ162A:
DC154 is indicated being DC158 on OSM and GM
DC173 is off

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2019, 09:04:29 am »
DJ170A:
DC39A is off
New wp @ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.295684&lon=24.205719 to make the routing a little bit more clear


DJ171B:
DJ186D -> DJ171D


DJ171E:
DN18B is off


DJ172B:
+X193419 is off


DJ172D:
DJ172J is off


DJ172G:
Move DJ173C_N between the branches
DJ173_S is off


DJ172J:
DN17D_N is off


DJ173:
DN16_E is off
+X1 is off
+X3 is off


DJ173A:
DJ173D is off


DJ173B:
DN17VO, see DJ151
DC32 is off
DC33 is off


DJ174B:
DN15 is off
+X2 is off


DJ176:
+X6 is off


DJ177:
DN17A is off
ManHum -> StrToaBub


DJ177A:
DN17 is off


DJ177D:
Exceeds limits b/n +X3 and +X4
DJ209A doesn't intersect here (in HB) because the wp is missing at DJ209A


DJ178:
Move DN2H to the center of the roundabout
StrBogVoda is off
DJ209K_W is off
Move DJ178D to the center of the roundabout
DJ178E is off
DJ209C is off


DJ178B:
+X1 is off
DN2_N is off
DN2_S is off


DJ178C:
Move DN2H to the center of the roundabout
Exceeds limits b/n DN2E and Bil


DJ178D:
DC43 is off


DJ178E:
DC19 is off


DJ178F:
+X1 is off
DN2H_E is off

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2019, 04:00:08 pm »
btw, what's your main source out of the three indicated if data is ambiguous? It should be added to http://travelmapping.net/credits.php

Which one is it?


I think you agree that when there is a junction with the concurrent routes of DN18B and DN23A, that we call the wp DN18B/23A.
But if the routes are DN18 and DN18B, do we call it DN18/18B or just DN18? I prefer the latter and draft the French routes like this. It's shorter, simpler, better. I think that other hwy data manager do it similar. What do you prefer?
I can look up and report all these wp labels. No problem. Just let me know.


DJ182B:
DN18/18B label, see above
There is a ferry b/n DJ108A_N and DJ108E_S but it seems that a bridge is u/c. Was it demolished and is being rebuild? Or is it a completely new bridge? Do you know when the bridge should be opened? If it's a new bridge the opening will not be in early 2020, the route should be split.
DN1C_N is off
DJ182C is off
Move StrEur to the center of the roundabout


DJ182C:
DC33 is off
DJ184B is off


DJ183:
Exceeds limits b/n +X7 and +X8
CimVes is not a junction. Do we need the wp at all? If so, replace it by StrIoanPat just a few meters to the north.
DN19 is off


DJ183C:
DJ184 is off
DN18 is off


DJ184:
+X4 is off


DJ185:
I think that it exceeds the limits b/n +X5 and +X6
Move DN18_E a little bit to the west between both junctions


DJ186:
Exceeds limits b/n DJ171A and DJ186C


DJ187:
PoiMun is off


DJ187A:
Moc is not at a junction
GM indicates the route north of the river here. There is also no bridge for cars on "your" route to change the bank.
StrRau_N -> StrRau_E





Is the pace fine to you or should I try to accelerate and get the review done by January 6? I don't know how much time I'll have from week 2.

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2019, 02:19:14 am »
DN17VO doesn't intersect here. Add route, or rename wp (the direction signs on GSV from August 2018 are quite confusing - DN17/E58 on the bypass or through the town -, and it wasn't changed compared to 2012 GSV)

You made the wpt file and updates.csv entry but you have not yet edited roudn.csv and roudn_con.csv. The update entry is visible for users but the link doesn't work.

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2019, 05:19:28 am »
btw, what's your main source out of the three indicated if data is ambiguous? It should be added to http://travelmapping.net/credits.php

Which one is it?

The main source for micro situation are OSM, GM and GSV. If there is a contradiction, I just use common sense, the problem is that the routes are not always signed so GSV is not always helpful. The list just gives the main points on the road and it's good for the general routing. Geoportal seems to be pretty old and not updated. So nothing else to be added.

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I think you agree that when there is a junction with the concurrent routes of DN18B and DN23A, that we call the wp DN18B/23A.
But if the routes are DN18 and DN18B, do we call it DN18/18B or just DN18? I prefer the latter and draft the French routes like this. It's shorter, simpler, better. I think that other hwy data manager do it similar. What do you prefer?
I can look up and report all these wp labels. No problem. Just let me know.
I also named like DN18/18B. If the routes are of the same category I used both, if a road is of higher category, used just this one.

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Is the pace fine to you or should I try to accelerate and get the review done by January 6? I don't know how much time I'll have from week 2.
The pace is up to you. I am always a few posts behind your review, so if you will increase the pace , the difference will be higher. The only problem is that you will report errors twice (for example if a WP is off, you may see the same error when you come to the second DJ). If you decrease the pace after KW2, it's no problem, as my time will be also more limited afterwards.

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2019, 07:43:20 am »
Geoportal seems to be pretty old and not updated. So nothing else to be added.

But please remove useless links from readme.md.

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I think you agree that when there is a junction with the concurrent routes of DN18B and DN23A, that we call the wp DN18B/23A.
But if the routes are DN18 and DN18B, do we call it DN18/18B or just DN18? I prefer the latter and draft the French routes like this. It's shorter, simpler, better. I think that other hwy data manager do it similar. What do you prefer?
I can look up and report all these wp labels. No problem. Just let me know.
I also named like DN18/18B. If the routes are of the same category I used both, if a road is of higher category, used just this one.

I think you didn't get me :)
It's not about category - I agree, only highest one is mentioned in wp name - but same category and same "root route". DN18 and DN18B. I don't mention both in France, example:

D122 and DJ123A intersect with D123
D123A wp is called D122/D123
D123 wp is called D122/D123A
But: D122 wp is called D123 only, not D123/D123A

But it's up to you.

The only problem is that you will report errors twice (for example if a WP is off, you may see the same error when you come to the second DJ).

I generally don't report issues twice! You always need to update all relevant routes!

Let's say, I had reported an issue for DJ181's wp DJ197, I would not report it for DJ197 again.

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2019, 07:43:31 am »
Please check routings through Tasnad (DN1F, DJ191, DJ109P, DJ108L). OSM, GM and GSV show different routings.


DJ191:
New wp @ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.477875&lon=22.573246 independent of DJ191 routing to the north or to the east
DC38 is off


DJ191A:
Move DN19E between the branches
DJ191D is off

How are DN1F and E81 routed through Zalau? 2018 GSV indicates E81 routed like it's on OSM and in HB. The sign didn't exist in 2012. E81 is also signed on the eastern route as you can see on a sign in the south (was already there in 2012). Thus I'd suggest:
- DN1F -> DN1F_N
- DN1F, E60 and DJ191A need a new wp @ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.186457&lon=23.058921

But the signs do only indicate E81, not DN1F. I assume that E routes are always concurrent to DN routes but I don't know for sure. Maybe DN1F is on the western route through Zalau as it's indicated on OSM? What do official sources say?


DJ191D:
DN1H/19B is off


DJ191F:
+X2 is off


DJ193:
DN1C is off


DJ193A:
DJ195 is off


DJ193F:
I'd move Soc wp to the next junction within the village - as it's also indicated on OSM


DJ194:
BulICBra -> BlvdICB or BlvdIonBra or BlvdConBra, also for concurrent DN19A
See question in a previous post about both names in label. If you prefer both:
- DN19_S -> DN19/19A_S
- DN19_N -> DN19/19A_N


DJ194B:
New wp for DC64 in Pelisor
+X1 is off


DJ194D:
BabNov -> BabaNov


DJ195Ard:
Rename file and route short name to DJ195 (keep Ardud in city field though), ask if procedure is not clear


DJ195B:
DC141 is off
+X1 is off


DJ195C:
Exceeds limits b/n Dom and DN19_N, please add wp(s) so that it's clear whether it's the western or the eastern route (GM indicates east, OSM both). If both, make a circle.
DC51 is off
DN1F_S is off
DN1F_N is off


DJ195Pot:
DN1C is off


DJ196:
DJ196A is off
DC9A is off


DJ196B:
DJ196C location looks odd. OSM and GM have a different route to the south
DN19_S is off
DN19_N is off


DJ197:
D19_W is off




36.62% of the routes done!
« Last Edit: December 27, 2019, 07:45:41 am by michih »

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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2019, 07:47:04 am »

DJ182B:
DN18/18B label, see above
There is a ferry b/n DJ108A_N and DJ108E_S but it seems that a bridge is u/c. Was it demolished and is being rebuild? Or is it a completely new bridge? Do you know when the bridge should be opened? If it's a new bridge the opening will not be in early 2020, the route should be split.

The bridge should have been finished in october 2019. Due to a construction error, it will be opened most probably in april-may 2020. It's a totally new bridge.
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Re: roudj: Romania Drumuri Județene
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2019, 08:24:51 am »
Is the pace fine to you or should I try to accelerate and get the review done by January 6? I don't know how much time I'll have from week 2.
The pace is up to you. I am always a few posts behind your review, so if you will increase the pace , the difference will be higher.
If you decrease the pace after KW2, it's no problem, as my time will be also more limited afterwards.

I think it's better to keep the difference small.