Author Topic: VA: US 460 ALT (Norfolk)/I-264 Broken Concurrency at Exit 6  (Read 858 times)

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Offline Markkos1992

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The I-264(6) point on US 460 ALT (Norfolk) is still located at the old Des Moines Ave interchange instead of at the new Exit 6 at VA 164.

I believe that this point should be renamed I-264(6A) with this point, labeled as 6A, added back to the I-264 file and both points marked as closed.  The I-264(6) point would need to match with the 6 label on I-264. 

Secondly, is the StPauBlvd_S in the correct location?  (I guess the real question is if US 460 ALT WB follows City Hall Ave or not.)

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Re: VA: US 460 ALT (Norfolk)/I-264 Broken Concurrency at Exit 6
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2019, 07:16:31 am »
^ For that matter, Exit 6 on the I-264 list is also at Des Moines Ave.  The whole kit-and-kiboodle needs to be shifted over to 164.

As for the St. Paul Blvd point, yes that's in the correct place, since ALT 460 follows the ramps to/from 264 West and they do split.  Officially, City Hall Ave only flows westbound there.  Eastbound from St. Paul Blvd is ramps-only.  Google Maps is incorrect in this regard.

The REAL question is instead whether ALT 460 still ends at St. Paul's & Brambleton or if the endpoint has shifted since mainline 460 shifted to Church St.

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Re: VA: US 460 ALT (Norfolk)/I-264 Broken Concurrency at Exit 6
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2019, 07:34:37 am »
^ For that matter, Exit 6 on the I-264 list is also at Des Moines Ave.  The whole kit-and-kiboodle needs to be shifted over to 164.

I was referencing myself adding 311 to I-80 in PA when it comes to having a 6A marked as closed at the old Des Moines Ave exit.

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Re: VA: US 460 ALT (Norfolk)/I-264 Broken Concurrency at Exit 6
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2019, 12:29:12 pm »
Is anyone using the existing “6” point?  If not, vanilla 6 can just be shifted over with no need to keep a point at Des Moines.

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Re: VA: US 460 ALT (Norfolk)/I-264 Broken Concurrency at Exit 6
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2019, 01:53:04 pm »
I have synched US 460 ALT with I-264 at exit 6.

Because the original Exit 6 was only a half-interchange to/from the west, moving it west the short distance (<2000 ft) to its current location doesn't change anything in meaningful terms for the rare individual who somehow has an endpoint on I-264 at Des Moines Ave...

Doing anything else creates an Exit label that does not exist.

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Re: VA: US 460 ALT (Norfolk)/I-264 Broken Concurrency at Exit 6
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2019, 03:33:08 pm »
From the Manual:

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Two separate interchanges numbered 6. Distinguish them by picking the next available letter suffix for the second interchange. Number the first interchange normally.

Hence in this case, it would be 6 and *6A.  I left out the closed marker for 6A.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2019, 04:04:21 pm by Markkos1992 »

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Re: VA: US 460 ALT (Norfolk)/I-264 Broken Concurrency at Exit 6
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2019, 11:31:53 am »
Exit 6 is a simple interchange. One interchange. No need to split.

Exit 7 might be arguable but I would also leave as-is.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2019, 11:33:54 am by michih »