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Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2020, 06:37:27 pm »
RN50:
*see discussion in RN22; replace RN22_E with:
JuanALav_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.268708&lon=-57.613249
CRin_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.269683&lon=-57.611285
RN22_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.265920&lon=-57.608233

RN52:
*I cannot find any signs for 52 on the locally maintained portion south of RN1, but it is signed south from 1 (to Colonia Valdense). Any of the following endpoints would make sense:
**RN1 (and ignore the sign pointing south because there's nothing indicating where it ends)
**JuanBon, where the median ends
**CJuanCar, where pavement ends
*one GIS dataset ends 52 at the south end of Cufré, while the other continues it through town to the north end. I don't know which is better, but the current end at Gua is not supported by evidence.

RN53:
*In Cufré there are signs showing that 53 exists 11 km away, which is also what GIS shows as a locally maintained route. It's also shown straight across 52. According to GIS the route through Nueva Helvecia is Luis Alberto de Herrera-Lorenzo Artola-Federico Gilomén, but this includes a one-way street and the few signs that point towards anything. And I can't find any other signs on GIS's alignment to 12. So maybe take it into Nueva Helvecia but end it at GerImh http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.290760&lon=-57.235288 , ignoring the signs in Cufré as not providing enough information.

Also I found this. RR2 = Ramal Ruta 2 (Route 2 Branch)? GIS shows it to be 2 Ramal 5 straight ahead.

RN54:
*GIS shows the south end at either 19 de Junio or Mario Echeverría. km posts begin at the bridge north of downtown. I see no signs at any of these, but there are signs for the end of national maintenance a bit north of 19 de Junio. Sans any other signs I missed, it should probably begin at End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.400076&lon=-57.447220

RN55:
*GIS shows the (locally maintained) south end at the circle. So replace CamPol with MonPla at the circle.
*JuanZorMar -> ZorSanMar_S, add ZorSanMar_N
*add Cas http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.862968&lon=-57.737017 and SanMar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.779843&lon=-57.600052

RN55Pal:
*Par -> CPar

RN56:
*GIS shows it continuing a bit west of 5, but that's not signed so no change

RN57:
*GIS shows a locally maintained piece west out of Sarandí Grande, but it's not signed

RN58:
*CamVegCruz [sic] isn't signed; if anything it should be CruzAlta, but I don't know where Cruz Alta is
*CamSanPed -> CnoSanPed; it's probably not signed though

RN59:
*GIS shows 59 (locally maintained) taking a different route near its south end, ending at 43 here, but all indications on the ground are that it goes as we have it
*+X01 -> Oli
*replace +X05 with Fur http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.300718&lon=-55.833351
*+X09 -> MonChi
*+X12 -> Hil
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Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2020, 12:21:34 pm »
RN62:
*GIS shows it continuing south past the 5 turnoff towards Canelones, but I can't find any signs. So no change.
*CarLema has no signs and is a minor road; replace with EscRur34 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.488501&lon=-56.292422 ?

RN63:
*GIS shows national maintenance continuing past RN11 to Boulevard Federico Capurro. It's signed as ending a bit shy. So add End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.446751&lon=-56.386803
*add OldRN11_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.443095&lon=-56.384140 ?
*+X01 -> PasoSor

RN64:
*GIS shows national maintenance turning east at +X01 and ending at the railroad (it's signed a bit west), with local maintenance turning north on Baltasar Brum. Signage at +X01 doesn't mention 64, but I found some strange reassurance on the GIS route. So here's how 64 should read through Canelones:
ToRN11 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.530173&lon=-56.297164
GenFruRiv http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.528851&lon=-56.284182
RN11_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.524096&lon=-56.283764
AvdaMarMon_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.524560&lon=-56.275712
AvdaMarMon_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.522421&lon=-56.275438

RN65:
*move RN33 west (see discussion under 33)

RN68:
*GenArt -> AvdaArt

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Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2020, 09:16:02 pm »
RN70:
*GIS shows 70 (locally maintained) turning west to Capilla de Cella, but it's not signed that way. So no change; maybe add EscRur39 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.706861&lon=-55.505944 for people who followed that route

RN73:
*add PlaVer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.808562&lon=-55.309017 (unsigned RN72)
*GIS shows 73 (locally maintained) continuing east to CnoArr http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.843659&lon=-55.221362 (an unsigned nationally maintained branch of 93). It's not signed there but neither is it signed at RN37.

RN74:
*reverse direction to match km posts

RN75:
*GIS shows it continuing south (locally maintained) to 8, but it's not signed so no change
*delete RN84; GIS shows its east end at 74 and I can't find any signage beyond

RN76:
*GIS shows a locally maintained segment east of Mendoza Chico but it's not signed, so no change
*CamCar has no signs; delete and add PrePasoSev http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.265711&lon=-56.307067
*GenArt -> GenJoseArt

RN77:
*Cal1 -> Ind (street name not signed) and maybe move west to the central intersection
*delete GriAsc? (street name not signed and it's a minor intersection)
*CamFal -> PreSev (street name not signed)
*RN45 -> End (45 doesn't make it here)

RN78:
*GIS shows (locally maintained) 78 turning west instead of east at +X01, and this is a little too janky to be a route. In fact I can't find any signs on the local portion south of RN11. So delete before RN11 and RN79_N -> RN79.

RN79:
*I can't find any shields on either locally maintained section, so it should only run from RN11_E -> RN11 to RN78_N -> RN78

RN80:
*IdeCed -> EstMig (street name not signed)
*RN108 -> RN81_E, RN81/88 -> WilFerAld (see discussion below with 81; I also can't find any 88 shields in this area)
*add CnoSevHer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.407140&lon=-55.714245

RN81:
*DieLam -> BvarDieLam
*RN11_N -> RN11_W
*add OldRN11_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.452245&lon=-56.368146 ?
*I can't find any signs for 81 between RN80/88 and RN108. One GIS dataset shows that this is mostly nationally maintained, but the other has it as just a local street with no number. Combined with signs on the part of 108 south of 81 being for 81, I think there's a strong case for 81 taking two sides of the triangle. So RN80/88 -> WilFerAld and add RN80_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.490451&lon=-55.623565
*AveCen_S -> SolMat (street name not signed here)

RN82:
*DepRodPol -> DeoRodPol
*GIS shows the north end at RN86, but it's signed at RN11 so no change

RN84:
*GIS shows the south end at End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.781567&lon=-56.091599 and I can't find any signs south of there, so add that and delete RN102
*GIS shows the north end at RN74 and I can't find any signage north of there, so delete +X01 and RN75

RN87:
*reverse direction to match km posts?
*GIS shows a locally maintained southern extension to the beach, but it's not signed so no change

RN88:
*CalE -> EstTap (street name not signed)
*I can't find any signs for 88 other than at the west end (where it's signed for Tapia), and it's all locally maintained. Most importantly, there are no signs in Migues. GIS shows a gap, with the east end of the west section just north of Tapia. So maybe it makes sense to end it at End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.560656&lon=-55.749993 (and delete CalE).

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Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2020, 11:24:18 pm »
RN90:
*replace Cal275 (no signs) with PueEsp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.353129&lon=-57.948611
*move EstPor east two blocks to where the bus stop is?
*replace Pay with PieCol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.370184&lon=-57.609773
*CleCac -> Org (street name not signed)
*RN25_S -> RN25, RN25_N -> RN4
*AveGenArt -> AvdaGenArt

the readme should say that 93 is signed as IB, not that it's unsigned

RN95:
*reverse direction to match km posts
*CamCur -> CnoCur (but nothing is signed)
*CamLuisTuya -> Aer? GIS says no name and OSM and Google disagree

RN96:
*reverse direction to match km posts?
*see 21 for changes in Dolores:
PerManBla_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.518159&lon=-58.204247
EleBar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.523168&lon=-58.208935
DrVicBer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.528356&lon=-58.210244
RN21_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.531342&lon=-58.216209
PerManBla_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.542709&lon=-58.209085

RN97:
*+X02 -> PaloSolo

RN99:
*reverse direction to match km posts

RN100:
*replace PueAlv (not signed?) with PasoMor http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.196574&lon=-56.282530
*replace +X06 with ArrPer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.085294&lon=-56.156445
*replace +X08 with Par http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.036460&lon=-55.940269
*replace +X09 with Bla http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.901957&lon=-55.900937
*replace DeLosAng with SanJor http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.847541&lon=-55.895959 (where the pavement changes)
*GIS shows this locally maintained route continuing north to here, but I can't find any signs north of San Jorge

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Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2020, 04:38:14 pm »
RN101:
*GIS shows national maintenance continues south to the city limits on Avenida de las Americas, perhaps as a branch of 101, but it doesn't seem to be signed, so no change
*AveWilAld -> AvdaWilAld or AvdaAme
*EstAerCar -> Aer
*RNIB -> RNIB_E? signs imply an overlap
*CamJuanLab -> CnoJuanLab
*AveRamCos -> AvdaRamCos (but I don't see any street signs)
*CamPasoEsc -> CnoPasoEsc (but I don't see any street signs)
*Gal -> CnoGal, move north to the circle
*CamLosHor -> CnoPer

RN102:
*CamFau -> CnoFau
*CesMayoGut -> AvdaCesGut
*CamCorRaiz -> CnoCorRaiz
*AvePedMen -> CnoMen
*AveIns -> AvdaIns
*AveJoseBel -> AvdaJoseBel
*RN84 -> CnoPasoAnd
*CamCruzSur -> CnoCruzSur

RN105:
*reverse direction to match km posts
*GIS shows national maintenance continuing east of 2 to Carlos Saenz, and this is signed, so add Pal http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.510896&lon=-57.809544

RN106:
*I can't find any signs for locally maintained 106 south of RN54, and signs there only point north. So delete everything after RN54 (and reverse direction?)

RN107:
*I can't find any signs south of RN67; GIS actually shows it ending five blocks north with no locally maintained continuation, but it's signed on 67. So delete RN6.

RN108:
*delete RN80? see discussion under 81; the part south of RN81 is only signed as 81
*I was going to say I couldn't find any signs on the locally maintained portion north of RN12_E, but then I saw this. GIS shows the north end of 108 at +X13, with (unsigned) 40 continuing. I can't find anything beyond there, so +X13 -> End.

RN109:
*GIS shows locally maintained 109 continuing west of RN39, but I can't find any signs, so no change
*CamSieGar -> CerCor (street name not signed)
*GIS shows a different (locally maintained) route in Rocha, but it's not what's signed, so no change

RNIB:
*RN101 -> RN101_N and extend west along 101 to its end? signage implies an overlap
*AveLuisBer -> CGonRod
*AveUru -> AvdaUru
*AveMarCas -> AvdaMarCas
*AveEduPer -> Pan (street name not signed here)
*AveIngGia -> AvdaGia
*add RsoNep http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.784431&lon=-55.887859 (unsigned 10)
*AvePin -> AvdaPin
*AveArg -> RepArg
*Ave1 -> BelHor (street name not signed here)
*add Gua http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.753707&lon=-55.611489 (unsigned 103)
*Bah [sic] -> Tuna (street name not signed here)
*add SanLucEste http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.783831&lon=-55.537165 (unsigned 103)
*Cal1 -> Bia (street name not signed here)
*GenArt -> Jau (street name not signed here)
*CorPea -> GreAzn (street name not signed here, and it might not be correct - the name on OSM literally means shortcut to toll)
*CamArr -> CnoArr
*AerLagSau -> AerPunEste
*AveAntLus -> CnoLus
*GIS shows that state maintenance ends at CnoLus and local maintenance (as 10) extends all the way around Punte del Este to the bridge to El Tesoro. Unless there are signs that I'm missing on the latter, +X04 and AveGenGom should be deleted.

201 (Avenida Giannattasio) is unsigned, so no change

GIS shows an unnumbered (or labeled RN ACC) nationally maintained route from the shared end of 1 and 5 to here, with a branch along the waterfront (unnumbered or labeled RN RAMBLA) to here. There's also an unnumbered (or labeled MILL) branch from 5 to Avenida Millán.

And that's it.

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Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2020, 02:27:21 pm »
RN1:*I assume you've seen proof that the exit numbers are posted?

No! The issue was discussed here: http://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=2893.msg12978#msg12978
OK, so I'll go back and give better names.

I thought to generally go with km posts for unsigned GSJ in SA instead of using (unsigned) street or town names. Since the rule change was rejected, I could look into this now. I need to do the review uninterrupted. Likely next weekend.

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Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2020, 05:48:23 pm »
I thought to generally go with km posts for unsigned GSJ in SA instead of using (unsigned) street or town names. Since the rule change was rejected, I could look into this now. I need to do the review uninterrupted. Likely next weekend.
They're all signed as something in Uruguay...