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Offline neroute2

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Re: usafl: Florida State Highways
« Reply #210 on: January 07, 2020, 08:18:10 pm »
Off topic: care to revert this crap?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/floridaeditor/history

Not sure what exactly would need to be reverted (didn't really look @ the changesets).  Plus, I unfortunately don't have the time right now to really play around with OSM. :(
They changed a whole bunch of motorways to trunk. For example: http://travelmapping.net/hb/index.php?r=fl.fl451

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Re: usafl: Florida State Highways
« Reply #211 on: January 07, 2020, 08:23:57 pm »
Off topic: care to revert this crap?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/floridaeditor/history

Not sure what exactly would need to be reverted (didn't really look @ the changesets).  Plus, I unfortunately don't have the time right now to really play around with OSM. :(
They changed a whole bunch of motorways to trunk. For example: http://travelmapping.net/hb/index.php?r=fl.fl451

Oh boy, I see what you mean now. :pan:  Great.....

Left a quick message on this one changeset, and will post a message to talk-us as well to see if I can get some help in reverting.
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Re: usafl: Florida State Highways
« Reply #212 on: March 14, 2020, 02:31:21 am »
924: 42nd/37thAveCon -> 42nd37thAveCon?
934: 81stSt and BayDr seem useless
944: NorMiaAve -> MiaAve

924: Honestly not sure if the '/' should be taken out.  I will have to admit, the cross road does have a funky name for sure.  I would appreciate some other comments on this label before adjusting it.  For easy reference, here's a StreetView link of the streetblades @ that interchange.
934: See: http://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=323.msg7454#msg7454  Those points are there in case we ever want to go with 'Option 1' from that post in the future.
944: Fixed.

953: MirMile -> CorWay (more prominent on signs)
953: 42nd/37thAveCon -> 42nd37thAveCon?
986: still signed on US 1
994: CarBlvd -> 200thSt (more prominent on signs)
9336: KroAve -> 177thAve (more prominent on signs)

953(a): I hate how all these roads have 2, 3 or even 4 different names in the Miami area.  It drives me nuts sometimes to chose the right one for a label.  Especially with the next intersection to the east just calling 'Miracle Mile'.  But I've changed it anyways.
953(b): Honestly not sure if the '/' should be taken out.  I will have to admit, the cross road does have a funky name for sure.  I would appreciate some other comments on this label before adjusting it.  For easy reference, here's a StreetView link of the streetblades @ that intersection.
986: Hmmm, maybe signed there, but there is a 'End State Maintenance' sign @ 69th Ave.  There's a 'Begin' one as well there on the other side of the street.  Also, I can't seem to find any shields along 72nd St between US-1 & those 2 State Maintenance signs.  Also, I can tell the shields where last swapped out on US-1 sometime between April '11 & May '13 (due to the 'white lines' showing up inside the numbers).  Anyways, I think I should just leave it @ 69th Ave for now.
As for the 'western' end, I've shortened it to 117th Ave due to no 'Maintenance' signs @ 118th Ave, as well as 0 shields @ 117th itself.  First 'EB' shield for FL-986 I could find was just beyond 113th Place.  So, having it at 117th Ave seems logical since it's a major crossroad the GIS says it does go there.
994: Changed.
9336: This wouldn't be an issue if it was still FL-997, lol.  Anyways, I'm going to leave this one as-is, due to address info in the area calls it Krome Ave, and doesn't mention '177th Ave' at all (except on those signs @ the intersection).  Plus, I bet this big 'FL-997 Fatalities' sign is still there, and it mentions Krome Ave name too. ;)

a1a: AtlAve -> CR4075
a1a: HighBriRd -> HigRd (one word on signs)
a1a: CDMarPkwy -> CamDelMar (Camino is the road type)
a1a: AnaRd -> AnaParkRd
a1a: Google shows that US1Bus_N has been realigned to match SanCarAve; Esri World Imagery shows it under construction but doesn't confirm the configuration
a1a: PerRd -> Gate5?
a1a: MayFry -> StJohRivFry

1) Fixed.
2) This one is debatable. While it's 1 word @ A1A, at the other end of the road, it's 2.  However, looking up the 'North Peninsula State Park' webpage, it says it's 1 word. And then again, Salty Dawg Outfitters right next door to the State Park lists it as 2 words on it's website, but further down on the main page has it as 1 word.  This is one of the more annoying 'names' I've seen in a while with the contradictions.  However, I'll swap it to the 1 word version, mainly because of the State Park website.
3/4) Fixed.
5) Hmmm, looks like something that needs to be checked on later, since StreetView was last here in Jan '19.  OSM was updated, but the user said it was based on the Esri Imagery as well.
6) 'NavStaMayG5' instead? Mainly because of the base name in large letters on the building.
7) Changed.

a1afer: MayFry -> StJohRivFry
a1afer: HugPark -> AlaBoatRamp
a1afer: MagSt -> MagLn
a1afer: PinPl -> PineGroPl

1/2) Fixed.
3/4) Already changed when I fixed up FL-200.

a1afor: FIFerDr -> TerIsle
a1afor: TerDr -> FLHIntAir?
a1afor: FL842 -> LasOlasBlvd
a1afor: CarReal -> CamReal

1) Changed.
2) Changed & tweaked in US-1's file.
3) Fixed when removing FL-842's 'eastern' part.
4) Fixed.

a1ansb: continue north along the ramps to US 1?
a1aver: SebISPark -> SebInlSP?
a1aver: GeoJKingBlvd -> GeoKingBlvd

a1ansb) No.  'Ramps' clearly say 'TO FL-A1A'. From US-1 & on FL-A1A.
a1aver) Both changed.

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On a side note, I'll be removing FL-44 (NSB) due to there being no signage along the [url=https://www.google.com/maps/dir/29.0279078,-80.9220658/29.0385728,-80.9028194/@29.0330977,-80.9172867,16z]Causeway in Aug '19 StreetView imagery, unless I somehow missed the shields (which I doubt).  I find it funny that it's signed in-town between A1A and it's continuation on the Causeway, but not on the route itself.

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Changes have been submitted here (including previous post).
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/3658

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Re: usafl: Florida State Highways
« Reply #213 on: March 14, 2020, 08:38:16 pm »
A1A / A1AFer:
StJohRivFry -> SJRivFry, etc
NavStaMayG5 similarly has too many words
AlaBoatRamp -> FLA1A_U

924: 42nd/37thAveCon -> 42nd37thAveCon?
924: Honestly not sure if the '/' should be taken out.  I will have to admit, the cross road does have a funky name for sure.  I would appreciate some other comments on this label before adjusting it. 
I'd say remove the "nd" before the slash, as shown on the blade sign. Otherwise it looks like failure to truncate to 3 letters. This solution seems to keep it more "numeric" if you will.
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Re: usafl: Florida State Highways
« Reply #214 on: March 14, 2020, 10:37:10 pm »
A1A / A1AFer:
StJohRivFry -> SJRivFry, etc
NavStaMayG5 similarly has too many words

What would you suggest for the 'NavStaMayG5' one?  'NSMayG5' perhaps?

AlaBoatRamp -> FLA1A_U

That one is correct as it is now.  See StreetView for proof.

Also took the time to convert all the 'StaPark' labels to SP and expanded one part of the name instead of A1AFer's file.

924: 42nd/37thAveCon -> 42nd37thAveCon?
924: Honestly not sure if the '/' should be taken out.  I will have to admit, the cross road does have a funky name for sure.  I would appreciate some other comments on this label before adjusting it. 
I'd say remove the "nd" before the slash, as shown on the blade sign. Otherwise it looks like failure to truncate to 3 letters. This solution seems to keep it more "numeric" if you will.

Yeah, '42/37thAveCon' does seem to work better.  I'll go with that in both FL-924 & FL-953.

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Re: usafl: Florida State Highways
« Reply #215 on: March 15, 2020, 05:58:53 pm »
What would you suggest for the 'NavStaMayG5' one?  'NSMayG5' perhaps?
Hm. Looks good in terms of the "only keep one truncated word" rule. And "NS" seems pretty standard for "Naval Station"... (Right? Ping froggie?)
I see that G5 = Gate 5, but wonder about --- wait, no, I wonder about nothing. Both "Gate" and "5" are abbreviated to a single character. Yeah, looks good!

AlaBoatRamp -> FLA1A_U
That one is correct as it is now.  See StreetView for proof.

Also took the time to convert all the 'StaPark' labels to SP
OK, but...
and expanded one part of the name instead of A1AFer's file.
...Huh?

Yeah, '42/37thAveCon' does seem to work better.  I'll go with that in both FL-924 & FL-953.
On the flipside, one could also argue that "AveCon" together = one "generic road type"...

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Re: usafl: Florida State Highways
« Reply #216 on: March 15, 2020, 08:53:11 pm »
Also took the time to convert all the 'StaPark' labels to SP
OK, but...
and expanded one part of the name instead of A1AFer's file.
...Huh?

LTIStaPark > LTIslSP
BTIStaPark > BTIslSP
AIStaPark > AmeIslSP

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Re: usafl: Florida State Highways
« Reply #217 on: March 21, 2020, 03:45:26 pm »
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842efl: Signage removed between July '18 & March '19 at where I had the file starting.  Will delete in the next update. Label in A1AFor has been updated as well.

The label on FL A1A was changed, but FL 842 (East Fort Lauderdale) is still in the HB as of now.

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Re: usafl: Florida State Highways
« Reply #218 on: March 24, 2020, 06:24:00 pm »
953(a): I hate how all these roads have 2, 3 or even 4 different names in the Miami area.  It drives me nuts sometimes to chose the right one for a label.  Especially with the next intersection to the east just calling 'Miracle Mile'.  But I've changed it anyways.

My experience from living in South Florida is that the most popular format (advertising, radio, TV, and discussion purposes) is:

Direction Street Number St/Ave/Rd/Blvd/etc.

Some of them have a 1-2 word Name (Bird Road, Krome Avenue, Lindgren Ave...et al) but usually the "longer" name is never used for anything but memorial purposes.

There's also the Designated by the xxxx State Legistature name (usually in yellow-on-brown signs), which is also rarely used; although Calle Ocho may be a guideline-bender, but US 41 will suffice.

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Re: usafl: Florida State Highways
« Reply #219 on: March 25, 2020, 01:34:53 am »
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842efl: Signage removed between July '18 & March '19 at where I had the file starting.  Will delete in the next update. Label in A1AFor has been updated as well.

The label on FL A1A was changed, but FL 842 (East Fort Lauderdale) is still in the HB as of now.

Oops.  Got all caught up in removing the FL-44 segment, that I forgot to remove this one as well.  Since this was a quick easy fix, it's now been pushed.
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/3697