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Title: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 31, 2019, 04:04:07 pm
System is ready for peer-review (5950mi): http://travelmapping.net/hb/index.php?sys=uryrn
Sources and notes to routes: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/blob/master/hwy_data/URY/uryrn/README.md - I've not added unsigned routes listed.
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 17, 2020, 04:41:58 pm
Will be starting review soon.
Some maps I found:
http://www.mtop.gub.uy/vialidad/red-vial
http://www.mtop.gub.uy/documents/20182/33533/Distribuci%C3%B3n+de+la+red+vial+nacional+por+tipo+de+concesi%C3%B3n/cf174522-75e1-43e9-934a-edc5cc6a0743 (may be older? 20 and 42 are shorter than the previous map)
https://geoportal.mtop.gub.uy/geoservicios (GIS data also shown in https://geoportal.mtop.gub.uy/visualizador/ ; the numero field in v_camineria_nacionalLine or the nom_sd field in uylcami1g_sd seems to be the best; UYL appears to only show nationally maintained portions, while VCN includes ones with local maintenance)

RN1:
*10 -> CnoCib
*12 -> CnoTom
*18 -> CnoFlo
*20 -> ParLec
*21 -> SanVaz
*26 -> CiuPla_E
*32 -> PlaPas
*34 -> CiuPla_W
*add points at Lib_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.652759&lon=-56.600007 and Lib_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.628984&lon=-56.635755 ; the former is needed to break up a visible distance "error" and the latter complements it and is the end of unsigned RN89
*51 -> PasoMau
*add points at PunVal_E and PunVal_W?
*61 -> BarKiyu
*RN3 to RN11 is very long; potential additions are
PueAra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.527251&lon=-56.799005
RinPino http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.501605&lon=-56.836213
CamCar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.434142&lon=-56.944188

*there's a slight possibility that RN11's west end is at old RN1 in Ecilda Paulier; GIS data predates construction of the westbound lanes of the bypass; maybe add EciPau_E and EciPau_W at the ends of the old alignment for anyone who drove it before the recent expansion; the latter is also necessary to break up a visible distance "error"
*add a point at Paz http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.329864&lon=-57.282522 for unsigned RN61; maybe make this Paz_E and add Paz_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.331370&lon=-57.321639 , which allows you to delete +X02
*according to GIS, national maintenance continues southwest to the ferry terminal at AccTerFlu http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.472980&lon=-57.843683 ; this portion includes km 177 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.4697799,-57.8398448,3a,15y,252.43h,81.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIqG9DSiB2Pt5M5s9VAg02g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and at least one RN1 guide sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.4717789,-57.8421291,3a,23.6y,84.98h,88.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZW1tvdb6Sm4X2-frDnQ58A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

RN2:
*BalBrum -> BlvdBalBrum (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.3203313,-57.3532732,3a,15y,247.37h,90.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skCUfbtp0Pl4xfBRJpHmN6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*maybe add a shaping point to clarify the route around Rosario
*move JosePedVar_W west half a block
*move +X01 west to the new alignment
*PicBen -> NueHel (no street name is signed here)
*move RN12_W southeast to the two-way cutoff
*Cal6 -> DrEduCap (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.7899703,-57.4943176,3a,15y,160.54h,88.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCa489I-dprVXcURZJRdjmQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (proof (http://www.diariocronicas.uy/index.php?id=2486&seccion=general))
*add Ega http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.626770&lon=-57.651358 to decrease the distance between points
*add Dol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.402570&lon=-57.948396 and ColDiaz http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.307577&lon=-57.990024 to reduce distance
*CamArg -> ToRN21 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.260969,-58.0177791,3a,34.5y,198.46h,84.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRQUPGXx6xMV6BZGToGVZTg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)? I don't see any street signs
*add ToRN24 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.198441&lon=-58.075876 to break up a long gap (and because it's a nationally maintained spur); delete +X10
*FrayBen -> FrayBen_S, VlaRosBic -> FrayBen_N (https://youtu.be/TVf8GD2d0J0?t=359)
*add ZonaFra (https://youtu.be/TVf8GD2d0J0?t=440) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.117420&lon=-58.244791 in case anyone turns around before the bridge

RN3:
*CamRinPino -> RafPer (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.5147905,-56.7618249,3a,15.1y,204.54h,85.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMSxWvwvdWm7cf6rD4jVPgQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (no street signs here)
*RN11_W to RN23 is a very long distance without waypoints. Recommend adding the following signed junctions:
RN11_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.334285&lon=-56.732422
+X03 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.322434&lon=-56.710090
ToRN45 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.260143&lon=-56.699882
+X04 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.229168&lon=-56.690301
+X05 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.137787&lon=-56.690805
EstSanRita http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.033297&lon=-56.700118
+X07 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.962485&lon=-56.744921
EstNueEsp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.880855&lon=-56.756905
+X08 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.807394&lon=-56.768246
SarGra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.725651&lon=-56.801323
+X09 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.692245&lon=-56.811558
+X10 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.575011&lon=-56.880700
RN23 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.562787&lon=-56.877892

*GIS shows 14 going straight through Trinidad (jogging two blocks on José Batlle y Ordoñez), but there are no 14 signs on this route, so no change. However, +X20 should be replaced with a point at InesDur_E on 3 and 14.
*I can't find any waypoints to add to the large distance between RN14_W and ToRN14
*PueGre http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.039536&lon=-57.273660 helps with the large gap between ToRN14 and RN55
*all I can find between RN20_W and RN25 is ColOmbu http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.877497&lon=-57.461586 and ToRN25_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.708675&lon=-57.628457 (signed as a truck route)
*ditto for ToRN25_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.693931&lon=-57.639787 and PueTen http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.537081&lon=-57.827225
*AveIsr -> Aer (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.3487233,-58.0519195,3a,29.8y,386.83h,88.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMaGwnHVnCMX-RnQDiF1bDA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (sources disagree about street name and none is posted)
*AveAme -> PueInt (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.2761169,-58.0359019,3a,41.6y,234.58h,80.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEJ90u5LNTI0xizN_A-dmCA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)Art (street name not posted)
*To eliminate a visible distance "error":
Con http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.209043&lon=-58.006182
+X35 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.140471&lon=-57.936369
+X36 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.129269&lon=-57.940114
LorGey http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.118275&lon=-57.922969

*Ditto:
Queg http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.032837&lon=-57.848071
+X37 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.006466&lon=-57.842975
Queb http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.931295&lon=-57.857888

*CamMesArt -> MesArt (street name not signed)
*+X44 -> GruPadPio
*AvePay -> C8 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.4537907,-57.910184,3a,17.3y,176.16h,85.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWqD9zWIAYM4VEbfQ379Lww!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (I can't find signs for the former)
*PueInt -> PueIntSal (to distinguish it from the one at Paysandú)
*to (mostly) get rid of a visible distance "error":
ColGar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.318356&lon=-57.832460
+X46 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.241435&lon=-57.761704
+X47 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.188629&lon=-57.758367
+X48 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.116737&lon=-57.721910
ZanHon http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.109278&lon=-57.722125
VilCon http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.086394&lon=-57.723659
+X49 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.054110&lon=-57.725644
EstCum http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.000897&lon=-57.693769
TerAra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.907453&lon=-57.693994
+X51 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.887273&lon=-57.689123
Bel http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.840710&lon=-57.696848
+X52 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.762913&lon=-57.710817
SarYac http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.717595&lon=-57.703317
+X53 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.660886&lon=-57.685668

*ColPal -> PueColPal (https://www.google.com/maps/@-30.5880524,-57.6828359,3a,19.9y,51.19h,82.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slmaEaPLKROkThvOfNGmhFA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)? and move south to the south end of town where the bus stop is; add SanGre http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.580320&lon=-57.678888 to avoid a visible distance "error" with RN30
*add MonQui http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.388554&lon=-57.615330 to avoid a visible distance "error"
*add TomGom http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.307652&lon=-57.576642 (a nationally maintained branch) and remove +X56
*AveGenArt -> AveArt (https://www.google.com/maps/@-30.2585829,-57.5925774,3a,15y,105.54h,93.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZFMcxW8tVQ6yPrUooVb97g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on May 18, 2020, 01:06:11 pm
RN1:*I assume you've seen proof that the exit numbers are posted?

No! The issue was discussed here: http://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=2893.msg12978#msg12978
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 18, 2020, 05:53:55 pm
RN1:*I assume you've seen proof that the exit numbers are posted?

No! The issue was discussed here: http://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=2893.msg12978#msg12978
OK, so I'll go back and give better names.
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 18, 2020, 10:59:59 pm
RN4:
The middle piece of 4 is signed (1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.3654151,-57.2099533,3a,36.6y,140.29h,78.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNgdPa8cpd2mO4CPiBOlqog!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) 2 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.2511374,-57.2081512,3a,16.1y,210.27h,84.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8e4iUpKS25U_NCM6YHOJNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) 3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.1848303,-57.2455712,3a,55y,186.61h,75.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slAK3suReYmXVYURmFTyP0g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)). It wouldn't surprise me if the south part is too, since it's nationally maintained. Anyway, here's the middle portion (rn004gui?):
RN90 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.365445&lon=-57.208654
JosePedVar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.353673&lon=-57.210606
VivSan http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.251027&lon=-57.208139
+X393997 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.186999&lon=-57.215488
End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.185165&lon=-57.244681

GIS shows local maintenance as 4 continuing north to Federación, but that does not seem to be signed. Another piece (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/-31.7018072,-57.1840321/-31.3580511,-57.1043061/@-31.5257687,-57.2730184,46469m/data=!3m1!1e3) is also shown but probably not signed.

*RN31 to ToRN31 is a branch of 31 according to GIS. But it's signed as 4 so no change.
*ToRN31 -> PueCel (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.2797488,-57.1201143,3a,22.3y,146.17h,82.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smqWt2pM4O47anIA7S1Prmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*Lav -> ColLav (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.1316974,-57.0027029,3a,34.6y,260.44h,82.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZNVAcUSCG7iCnE6ykuRlfA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*add PueOli http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.084731&lon=-56.945508 to eliminate a visible distance "error"
*move Seq to http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.002718&lon=-56.877401 where the bus stop is

RN5:
*9 -> LuisBatBer
*missing exit for CVer (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8373925,-56.2538585,3a,15y,24.95h,86.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sohib2yOJ9EZS6nVTifRpdg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*10 -> AvdaMil
*add CnoPer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.815459&lon=-56.258476
*14 -> CnoRed
*20 -> Paz
*26 -> ColChi
*27 -> Pro_S
*add BruChi http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.667956&lon=-56.240612
*32 -> Pro_N
*38 -> Jua
*44 -> Can_S
*RN11/64 -> RN11? 64 isn't signed here
*add MenChi http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.237936&lon=-56.213200 to avoid a visible distance "error" and provide a point for an unsigned segment of 76
*AveJoseVar -> AvdaJoseVar (this or Av is how Uruguay abbreviates Avenida)
*to avoid visible distance "errors":
+X07 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.010817&lon=-56.243815
Cruz_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.960011&lon=-56.238928
Cruz_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.921809&lon=-56.251234
+X09 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.888413&lon=-56.259972
Pin_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.839766&lon=-56.297352
Pin_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.831603&lon=-56.299417
RN58 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.787547&lon=-56.308386 (note that 58 is not signed here, but it's signed both ways from 6)

*ditto:
+X11 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.674055&lon=-56.338690
PunMac http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.621034&lon=-56.349231
+X12 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.570823&lon=-56.368103
Goni http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.518589&lon=-56.408443
ParHis http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.411732&lon=-56.511612
RN14_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.395762&lon=-56.522191

*add GenPabGal http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.387362&lon=-56.522169 +X421702 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.369298&lon=-56.507642 (the former is another route of 14 according to GIS, and is (at least partially) signed eastbound as 14)
*222 -> RepBay
*add Par http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.955151&lon=-56.469104 to avoid a visible distance "error"
*BuiJoseArt -> BvarJoseArt (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.8172382,-56.5015789,3a,15y,379.53h,86.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMX8cL9ZRV3i36vVZDwR5FA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*PasoTor -> RepGabTer (multiple waypoints lead to Paso del Toros, and this is the beginning of a nationally maintained spur to Represa Gabriel Terra)
*more points in a dry area:
RN20 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.674156&lon=-56.487316
EstLago http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.575622&lon=-56.420417
Per http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.492950&lon=-56.356773
RN43 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.361252&lon=-56.266227

*ditto:
+X20 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.248836&lon=-56.224245
PieSola http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.242026&lon=-56.210539
+X21 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.159360&lon=-56.108272
Cur_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.148547&lon=-56.110826
Cur_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.134093&lon=-56.111898
+X22 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.097391&lon=-56.108465
+X23 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.046938&lon=-56.058882
+X24 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.891756&lon=-56.017581
SauBat http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.867681&lon=-55.994858
RN59 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.808489&lon=-55.975779

*AvePabRios -> AvdaPabRios
*add EstAta http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.134444&lon=-55.638757 to break up a long distance
*why the end at PrePedVie? GIS shows national maintenance ending (https://www.google.com/maps/@-30.9411452,-55.5502063,3a,15y,47.45h,85.34t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saaTFevY9-_eyuOoWHAJBjg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) at RN27 and local maintenance ending at the Arroyo Cuñapiru bridge; are there any signs north of RN27? GIS also shows a branch to the airport, beginning here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-30.9056304,-55.5311922,3a,75y,121.18h,83.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sujT1xsM6jpK4SxIDkx2JhQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) with national maintenance beginning where the road to the border crossing branches off to the left; this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@-30.8973558,-55.5338071,3a,24.6y,227.57h,92.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4dH0ogkXjyEl5SMiD6yeUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) at the border shows 5.3 km to RN5, which matches ending it at RN27
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 19, 2020, 04:31:49 pm
RN6:
*AveJoseBel -> AvdaBel (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7797375,-56.1348432,3a,15y,260.56h,88.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAoWQm3wWhWBR0OhvolgObw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*RN107 -> Sau_S (I can't find any 107 shields south of 67 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.650583,-56.0663349,3a,16.1y,124.17h,84.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGWcSdCOcKVURdTNhyWICKw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), with GIS ending 107 five blocks north)
*add Sau_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.648924&lon=-56.049945
*replace +X16 with Mon http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.529787&lon=-55.708011 to help with the visible distance "error"
*even though GIS doesn't show 6 existing between RN19_E and just north of +X42, it is signed (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.0732541,-55.4486084,3a,15.4y,88.07h,86.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snhw_-YMBTrBt65WZbQLipQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). So no change.
*CapFar -> RN42 (see its entry)
*+X33 -> Cer
*+X36 -> Pal
*+X37 -> Pue329 (note that GIS shows that Puente 329 is nationally maintained as part of 6, but also shows the route to the east)
*+X44 -> Are
*add BalPasoPer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.446510&lon=-55.225879
*replace +X45 with:
PueFeos http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.357742&lon=-55.180635
+X929518 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.350020&lon=-55.159864

*make a note in the readme that the road condition is unknown between Pue329 and PueFeos, and that this very poorly signed portion includes a ferry and a badly maintained wooden bridge (http://www.elacontecer.com.uy/30518-2017-06-12.html); it's possible that 6 doesn't even exist here south of the ferry
*to avoid a visible distance "error" add:
RN44 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.989151&lon=-54.776802
+X603276 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.945680&lon=-54.759078
+X829649 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.928418&lon=-54.736462
ZanHon http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.896970&lon=-54.719070

*replace +X70 with AerVic http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.767708&lon=-54.665544
*CamPasoVie has no signs and is not a major road; replace with PasoHos http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.651116&lon=-54.621127 closer to the middle of the community
*+X72 -> BarSanLuis

RN7:
*+X03 -> PueSimBol
*AvePonsJua -> AvdaPonsJua
*CamSanPed -> SanPedTim (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.8624449,-55.5490547,3a,18.1y,313.15h,89.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scSFM3j7uF5JRL9gjtnXDfg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*to avoid a visible distance "error", replace +X09 with:
+X827102 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.780860&lon=-55.480399
EstArt http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.763531&lon=-55.460218
+X460047 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.723644&lon=-55.452869

*replace +X10 with Ill http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.608615&lon=-55.327309
*RN14_W -> RN14, replace RN14_E with 18Jul at the circle to the southwest? I can't find any 14 signs between 7 and 8, and GIS shows the locally maintained route of 14 going to the circle
*replace +X22 with TreTres http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.062342&lon=-55.044637
*replace +X26 and CloSil with EstCor http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.923942&lon=-54.955072
*+XRN38 -> PasoPer
*Cal7 -> Que (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.621321,-54.592389,3a,39.6y,18.79h,77.55t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSFhz92GII2gssxFI_h2HYQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (street name not signed)
*RN44 -> RamTri (GIS says this is a spur of 7; one older sign on 26 shows 44 but others show 7)
*7 is signed north of Melo (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.3631289,-54.1726503,3a,15y,51.98h,89.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRc6SjdGtheufmVxvG_eraA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656); the signs at the split with 8/26 are just missing. Here's how the file should read:
RN26_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.388018&lon=-54.350004
+X40 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.378457&lon=-54.332414
RN44 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.369740&lon=-54.245092
CFloSan_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.369188&lon=-54.181588
RN8_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.362844&lon=-54.170601
RN8/26 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.364040&lon=-54.163402
+X247629 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.359591&lon=-54.146590
+X897311 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.302587&lon=-54.095135
+X321874 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.256144&lon=-54.080157
+X613835 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.227578&lon=-54.044538
EstBer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.200891&lon=-54.031878
+X538379 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.201163&lon=-54.002588
+X319654 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.188144&lon=-53.968835
+X259021 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.193355&lon=-53.919053
+X866465 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.172561&lon=-53.858092
+X414831 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.154869&lon=-53.853135
+X364085 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.139463&lon=-53.832150
Cen http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.145540&lon=-53.788344
PasoCen http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.132204&lon=-53.733788

Note that it's only federally maintained to EstBer, with local maintenance beyond, but signs in Melo say it goes to Centurion.
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 19, 2020, 10:08:59 pm
RN8:
*federal maintenance goes southwest one block past Ari to Tau
*replace +X04 with EstAnd http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.437213&lon=-55.421090 and +X255544 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.416575&lon=-55.369163
*add CerVer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.389966&lon=-55.282699 to get rid of a visible distance "error"
*GIS shows 12 (locally maintained) on Calle FDR, which is signed for Centro on 8. Entering town from the south, Centro is pointed left on Juan Antonio Lavalleja. I can't find any other signs. I'd move RN12_E to halfway between FDR and JAL.
*AveIns -> ToRN12/60 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.3683689,-55.2043555,3a,21y,312.33h,85.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sheRs5TyPwKYAtFtb2M3W8A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (street name not signed)
*replace +X07 with SalPen http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.337359&lon=-55.089140 ; add VilSer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.315598&lon=-55.033543 to eliminate a visible distance "error"
*add PasoTro http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.173864&lon=-54.918391 (ditto)
*JusOla -> CJusOla (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0445263,-54.7822498,3a,15y,52.45h,90.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEoGbV5SeKiZEN4qBpVdiZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*replace +X11 with Tap http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.951530&lon=-54.788325
*replace +X12 with Col http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.879893&lon=-54.765558
*Cor -> AvdaCor
*RN14_W -> EstRet, RN14_E -> RN14? I can't find any 14 signs between 7 and 8, and GIS shows locally maintained 14 going straight west across 8 (though the route it shows is not all an actual road)
*add MarAlb http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.438873&lon=-54.523848 to help a bit with the visible distance "error"
*BulFruPue -> BvarFruPue
*add points to a long dry stretch:
RN17 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.210113&lon=-54.385757
QueCue http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.040058&lon=-54.389319
+X20 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.029147&lon=-54.388837
+X21 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.927410&lon=-54.295984
ToRN18 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.908523&lon=-54.291258
+X22 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.873947&lon=-54.286087
+X23 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.854012&lon=-54.257269
+X24 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.742061&lon=-54.218436
+X25 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.731236&lon=-54.207750
+X26 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.618073&lon=-54.222819
Arb http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.610423&lon=-54.211832
+X919240 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.601856&lon=-54.208817
+X27 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.550250&lon=-54.147363
BarAra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.527204&lon=-54.130776
PasoAre http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.465752&lon=-54.103396
+X29 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.402311&lon=-54.127981
RN26_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.374253&lon=-54.165055

*AveIta -> RN7_N, RN26_W -> RN7/26
*add Mol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.300229&lon=-54.163091 to chip away at the visible distance "error"
*BriGenArt -> GenJoseArt?

RN9:
*move RN60 east half a block (it's a one-way pair)
*replace +X05 with CnoCei http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.734877&lon=-54.990478
*AveJoseFra -> SanCar_E (street name not signed)
*CamEugMar -> JoseIgn (street name not signed)
*CamLeoLazo -> Gar (ditto)
*CamCar -> Car (ditto)
*PueBotRiv -> PueBot (La Riviera is a different place)
*AveGenRiv -> Roc_E (street name not signed, and it's not even at the correct street)
*to improve a visible distance "error":
+X13 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.455368&lon=-54.202037
TraPesPue http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.448237&lon=-54.188765
19Abr http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.363029&lon=-54.070555
Pal http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.235932&lon=-53.977761
+X15 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.226839&lon=-53.965155

*AveEsp -> Cas_W (street name not signed here)
*add Esm http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.144043&lon=-53.708189
*BouSanTer -> PunDia (street name not signed here)
*replace +X18 with:
PalCor http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.814561&lon=-53.506787
BarChuy http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.746859&lon=-53.477572

*GenArt -> Chuy_W (street name not signed here)

GIS shows a locally maintained piece of 10 in Neptunia, but it's not signed

RN10Pir:
*add PlaVer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.820084&lon=-55.317053 (unsigned RN72)
*Mis -> AvdaMis (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8456547,-55.3008499,3a,30.3y,233.96h,76.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-0BF5ExDBbJuQL4WkUNixw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*unless I'm missing something, 10 doesn't seem to be signed to 37. GIS and signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8545098,-55.295921,3a,37.9y,157.85h,82.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMfiWL_8EODgIwijcWrD4Kg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) agree that national maintenance ends at C9 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.854462&lon=-55.295938 ; GIS shows no locally maintained 10 beyond

another piece of 10 (into Maldonado) is signed as IB; GIS shows it continuing east locally-maintained around Punta del Este to the bridge to El Tesoro, but a quick look shows no signs, so no change

RN10Jos:
*10 is signed west from 104 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.9034119,-54.8176046,3a,75y,211.04h,82.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFDloqloC5V8oQ9r5Dnb3RQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), but GIS says it ends at the west leg of the wye where national maintenance ends (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.9057833,-54.8175578,3a,24.9y,270.99h,86.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW77PCN_98aLOYwzSnLcWBQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656); no change unless there are more signs west of here
*Cla -> BalSanMon (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.850402,-54.7002253,3a,23.4y,82.32h,81.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2MFHOvh7IwkwLCjdwM8btg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (street name not signed)
*CamEugMar -> CnoSaiMar (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8362611,-54.6449607,3a,18.8y,86.37h,90.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suq2wHKaPeIiyScDbfAWkGQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*add PueLagGar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.802387&lon=-54.572074 (an interesting bridge along the route)?
*add BalCar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.789735&lon=-54.543149 to eliminate a visible distance "error"
*CamCar -> ToRN9 (street name not signed)
*GIS shows locally maintained 10 continuing east almost to Laguna de Rocha, but it doesn't seem to be signed

RN10:
*GIS shows 10 continuing west locally maintained almost to Laguna de Rocha, but no signs so no change
*AveRoc -> Ped (street name not signed)
*to help with a visible distance "error":
+X618268 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.554948&lon=-54.110300
ToRN9 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.524591&lon=-54.074771

GIS shows yet another local piece of 10 splitting from 9 east of Aguas Dulces, but it's not signed as anything so no change
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 20, 2020, 12:44:58 pm
RN11:
*add OldRN1?
*add TreTres http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.344136&lon=-56.712590 (the continuation of a nationally maintained branch from 11 to 45
*add CarrRinTor http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.373089&lon=-56.607345 to eliminate a visible distance "error"
*RN79_N -> RN79, RN79_S -> PasoBel (I can't find any shields for the locally maintained piece of 79 south of 11)
*add SanLuc_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.443265&lon=-56.418958 (a nationally maintained branch of 11)
*DieLam -> BvarDieLam_S (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.458232,-56.3838432,3a,15y,91.19h,89.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTd6oxjE1B0SbPqvr9YB8eQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*RN64_S -> ToRN64 (see discussion under 64) and move west to the center of the intersection
*for downtown Canelones and to clarify which street westbound traffic uses (yes, there's a sign pointing straight on Héctor Miranda for Santa Lucia, but GIS shows locally maintained 11 on Tomás Berreta and that has an actual 11 shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.5240664,-56.2756616,3a,25.4y,200.74h,86.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0GR_HOFHZDRGcwTybtSPVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)):
RN64_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.524096&lon=-56.283764
AvdaMarMon_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.524560&lon=-56.275712
AvdaMarMon_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.522421&lon=-56.275438

*RN64_N -> RN64_E? it looks slightly more east-west

RN12:
*replace +X02 with EstMarDol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.203905&lon=-56.038256
*replace +X06 with Bar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.337536&lon=-55.653820 (unsigned locally maintained 40)
*replace +X09 with EstSol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.320897&lon=-55.443320
*see discussion in 8 on routing through Minas; Aro_N -> JoseEAro_N (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.3814888,-55.2330438,3a,15.2y,8.78h,88.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQ89n9n-T7xYf1Mqt1N81hg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and maybe move one block northeast
*move RN60 south to the circle
*replace +X15 with EstMol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.578617&lon=-55.073283
*replace +X17 with PueEden http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.628582&lon=-55.053864

RN12Car:
*Nueva Palmira has a new bypass visible in Google (maps and aerial). This almost certainly carries 21 to the north (which was locally maintained south of the river north of town), so add RN21_N there and rename RN21_N -> GenArt. It's possible that 12 was also moved to the bypass, but there's not enough information. But I can't find any 12 shields west of this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.8840693,-58.399295,3a,35y,56.8h,86.44t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shTSwIbaCy6lCPlxLLxB61A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), where one of the two GIS sources says it ends (the other puts national maintenance south a block, then west on Montevideo, then southwest to the port, which looks bogus on the ground). So we should probably delete Bay and put the west end at DomOrd http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.883545&lon=-58.399115
*LosTreTres -> Agr_E (no street name signed here)
*+X03 -> Car
*add NueHel http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.923598&lon=-57.244091 (unsigned locally maintained 53)
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 20, 2020, 06:40:40 pm
RN13:
*add GruSal http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.133725&lon=-54.589262 to reduce distances
*Esc67 -> Tal (the town is more important than the school)

RN14:
*replace +X03 with Sac_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.204707&lon=-57.668760 and add Sac_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.185261&lon=-57.531967
*add Tala http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.224275&lon=-57.421160 and +X856671 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.237718&lon=-57.364554
*ToRN3 -> GruPal (I can't find any signs for 3 here)
*see 3 for InesDur_E
*replace +X23 with JJCas http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.465011&lon=-56.737218
*+X26 -> Dur_W; this is actually signed as 14 for eastbound traffic, with a turn in town (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.3855897,-56.5262101,3a,25y,53.8h,86.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR1eEI6kWbMm_CLMGYs04SA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to reach 5, but no westbound route seems to be signed, so no change, but see 5 for GenPabGal
*add PuePan http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.275866&lon=-56.094389 to chip away at the visible distance "error"
*GIS shows 14 on Andrés Faraut, one block west of Bulevar General Artigas, but that's not signed (neither is the latter though); it may be an old alignment given km 235 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.243086,-56.0064353,3a,43.2y,269.43h,75.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9KBJBXI9t0i5fRRRYnZaDw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*BulGenArt_N -> BvarGenArt_N
*add the ends of the truck bypass:
JoaSua http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.241721&lon=-56.016283
RaulFer_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.242959&lon=-56.006284

*add ColRosRius http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.311504&lon=-55.674688 to chip away at the visible distance "error"
*+X43 -> EstTri
*+X47 -> EstRos
*I can't find any 14 signs between 7 and 8. Unless I'm missing something, that means RN7_S -> RN7, delete +X60 through +X80, and split beyond RN8_N -> RN8 to a new file (RN8Las?)
*replace +X83 with Nov http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.544435&lon=-54.366660 and +X201339 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.603897&lon=-54.341426
*add Bar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.802473&lon=-53.991001 (no GMSV here, but it's where national maintenance ends so probably a potential place to turn around)

RN15:
*ConSag -> Sag (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.649242,-54.1593395,3a,15y,183.73h,89.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLpQu2BIwH7olSLCCfN0IDA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (street name not signed here)
*add AvdaMarRod (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.4756872,-54.3386736,3a,15y,102.67h,94.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD8sSCYbqFIml70TxXf-aFw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.474965&lon=-54.337955 to clarify how 15 goes (which is not what GIS shows for this locally maintained portion, but signage is clear)
*replace +X05 with DonCarChi http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.371530&lon=-54.274306
*replace +X08 with Par http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.222630&lon=-54.314625
*add PueCol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.872723&lon=-54.304819 to help with the visible distance "error"
*is 15 signed beyond Cebollatí? GIS says national maintenance ends here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.2757554,-53.7966932,3a,49.4y,62.57h,87.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szIRmvUsNhxgr80r_3g82jA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), with one final km post just ahead (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.2740977,-53.7952148,3a,28.9y,15.2h,78.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD2FqgfA4qHTmhxwwphe-xw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). No locally maintained 15 is shown beyond. There is this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.2683513,-53.7915941,3a,43.5y,128.28h,80.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGVMcLmIl3V2QVu3ukFCMEQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), so maybe end it at Bal http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.268304&lon=-53.791552

RN16:
*GIS shows the south end at Pinares (it's locally maintained south of 10). I can't find any signs south of 10. So delete AveCacFar and begin it at Pin http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.274285&lon=-53.791391 ?
*add C19Abr_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.196549&lon=-53.849369 and C19Abr (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.199036,-53.8616044,3a,15.5y,187.32h,93.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svc_-WECDjAsE9wThKlBNPA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.197330&lon=-53.853275 to better define the route through Castillos

RN17:
*AveWilAld -> TreTres_E (street name not signed here)

RN18:
*Men -> PueMen (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.049243,-54.1463899,3a,16.5y,247.49h,79.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS63PKjTCszcg53pXZhcurQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*replace +X02 with CerAma http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.001448&lon=-54.079728
*GenArt -> PlaRos_W (street name not signed here)
*JuanRos -> PlaRos_E (street name not signed here)

RN19:
*add RN42 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.1161711,-55.7504472,3a,32.7y,345.16h,80.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saP-HO2iijZalyhjtPzjT6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.116634&lon=-55.750165
*GIS shows that 19 turns southeast here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.3345876,-54.0158398,18z) and ending here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.35692,-53.9888111,20z), which makes sense given the next piece; without GMSV we have no way of knowing for sure, but the exact east end doesn't seem right given aerial photos (extend it east to the intersection, or southwest two blocks?)

RN19Chu:
*CalPri -> SanLuis (street name not posted here)
*HorArr -> ManGal (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.6832534,-53.5551556,3a,21.6y,345.41h,83.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFp71CFjRA1B6gQnQ_-7IyQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*URY/BRA -> RN9 (URY/BRA could describe the previous point too)
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 21, 2020, 12:04:09 am
RN20:
*GIS shows that national maintenance continues southwest and northwest to Juan Antonio Lavalleja or the pier, depending on which dataset. km 1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.9843508,-58.0566015,3a,16.3y,338.24h,76.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srrRZc-den-bzvNZL83XzXQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is approximately 1 km from the pier, and there is no obvious on-the-ground change at JAL. So the beginning should read as follows:
ParEstFar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.979670&lon=-58.063216
+X767311 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.987536&lon=-58.052166
Uru http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.983140&lon=-58.046420
*+X05 -> PueSau
*Gre -> PueGre (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.8017056,-57.0689036,3a,39y,78.06h,81.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s84doVTkK-29aIwkhh3m1tQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*ToRN5 -> RepBay (how it's marked on 5; of course this is a nationally maintained piece of 4 so I think it's probably signed as such)
*RN25 doesn't seem to be signed at 20, and GIS shows a different route that doesn't reach 20, so change to EstFra (as signed farther east (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.6485784,-56.6865074,3a,17.7y,291.15h,81.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scx-CNn3WiIVB0DYurm4Dpg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656))?

RN21:
*AveJulCes -> AvdaGonMor (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.4554115,-57.8429955,3a,26.4y,332.05h,83.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4-UqlzjOPV3qnrEd6WQHFA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*what's the importance of ArmSom?
*add ParAnc http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.278248&lon=-57.871878 (a nationally maintained branch)
*CarCon -> Con (street name not signed)
*JuanSanMar -> Cal (street name not signed)
*add SanRoq http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.082024&lon=-58.112354 to eliminate a visible distance "error"
*move Def north one block to Sol, signed as a truck route (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0019997,-58.2846774,3a,42.3y,7.83h,91.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRnDBPZcBnWPkP3kscqmtXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*GIS shows a two-block jog on Paraguay in northern Carmelo for locally maintained 21. Signs show northbound traffic turning left on Ansina (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.9897497,-58.2817423,3a,22.8y,49.16h,94.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snbWm4knvRwJReQJ-8iYWKg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and right on Italia (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.9892852,-58.2836827,3a,26.8y,315.38h,88.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szD9FkggRx5Nirh4nbzRczg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There is a similar sign at Paraguay but none for the right turn from Paraguay. Southbound traffic has no signs for the turns shown on OSM, but Google's route is signed (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0031347,-58.2872374,3a,29y,221.37h,83.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxPHV8V4ey6cEoETS6jK8tw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Here's how I'd show the route:
12Feb http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.003337&lon=-58.286086
Sol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.001754&lon=-58.285711
Ans http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.989452&lon=-58.282900

*add CEduIra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.980494&lon=-58.290807 at the other end of the truck bypass and +X571192 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.958454&lon=-58.319035 for shaping
*RioUru has no signed name and is not necessary for spacing
*ConMin -> PunGor (street name not signed)
*Nueva Palmira has a new bypass, almost certainly signed as 21. Replace RN12_W and Chi_S with:
RN12_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.884258&lon=-58.384888
NuePal_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.852081&lon=-58.387463

*add PlaAgr http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.807412&lon=-58.364375 (a nationally maintained branch)
*replace +X06 with Con http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.626019&lon=-58.327188
*the bypass of Dolores is locally maintained and not signed as 21 at either end, merely as a truck route. There are signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.5331929,-58.2155952,3a,32.4y,95.97h,80.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdHTPa18iIpc5xDK-DdcDeA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) downtown. The only difference from what GIS shows as the locally maintained route northbound is that signs use Dr. Victor Bertullo instead of Manuel Oribe. Southbound signage agrees with GIS, using General Fructuoso Rivera. So here's how I'd handle Dolores:
PerManBla_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.541705&lon=-58.229991
GenFruRiv http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.534312&lon=-58.222207
RN96_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.531342&lon=-58.216209
DrVicBer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.528356&lon=-58.210244
EleBar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.523168&lon=-58.208935
PerManBla_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.518159&lon=-58.204247

*GIS shows locally maintained 21 through Mercedes on 28 de Febrero and Wilson Ferreira Aldunate, but this isn't signed. There are signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.2602457,-58.0316887,3a,15y,24.84h,87.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssgJOqMIVoXlOSTRQSTZOvQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) for 2 at Garibaldi and just local destinations (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.258754,-58.031874,3a,29.1y,349.38h,105.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3K92WEjtR70u9NLK4174Tw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) at Avenida Fregeiro. I'd probably cut the end back two blocks to the last sign with non-local destinations. Or here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.266766,-58.0336454,3a,75y,0.21h,66.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svnST36GD4M4hUTxCwP7xsg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) where pavement changes.

RN22:
*reverse the direction to match km posts?
*I cannot find any signs for 50 in Tarariras. GIS shows locally maintained 50 south on Calle Rincón, and no 50 north of town. But 50 is signed (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.1688466,-57.499651,3a,30y,179.69h,83.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s31Swjkqm_8To2rfvQib1yA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) at 54. So keep RN50_N but move RN50_S to RN50_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.265920&lon=-57.608233
*RN106 -> Mig? I cannot find any signs for (locally maintained) 106 south of 54

RN23:
*Gon -> EstGon (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.2247888,-56.8780063,3a,31.9y,180.37h,97.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEqCRKaNJYeAHiuEL-FPfLA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656); move south to the bus stop between Rivera and Comercio?
*ConCalD -> MalAbr and move barely north one block to where the bus stop is
*replace +X02 with +X197913 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.099297&lon=-57.007198 and PasoRey http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.067716&lon=-57.028034

RN24:
*add ToRN2 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.122349&lon=-58.103385 (not signed but it's a nationally maintained branch of 2)
*remove NueBer; traffic to Nuevo Berlin is signed via RN20_W
*replace +X02 with Aba http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.880822&lon=-57.972869
*TresQui -> SanJav_S (it's a nationally maintained branch of 24 to San Javier), SanJav -> SanJav_N

RN25:
*replace +X05 with Men http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.561282&lon=-57.482164
*Ave19Jul -> Alg (street name not signed here)
*I cannot find any 25 shields on the locally maintained portion east of Guichón. So unless I'm missing something, RN90_W -> RN90 and delete the rest.
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 21, 2020, 03:02:22 pm
RN26:
*CamVecFed -> Fed (the name on OSM simply means local road to Federación)
*ElEuc -> Euc
*add ColCanPue http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.874733&lon=-57.127447 to an empty area
*replace +X11 with RutaJon http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.883716&lon=-56.941409
*replace +X17 with ValEden http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.814654&lon=-56.173782
*BouRepArg -> Tac_W (street name not signed here)
*AvePabRios -> AvdaPabRios
*replace +X32 with CucOmbu http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.763293&lon=-55.694504 and PueHer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.840451&lon=-55.566187
*CamRinMat has no signs
*add Tur_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.065219&lon=-55.267807 and Tur_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.083011&lon=-55.195076
*move PunCar west to the other street where the bus stop is, or simply remove it
*add Are http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.132522&lon=-55.070858
*Cal1 -> ToRN6 (no street name signed)
*RN44_S -> FraMue (see discussion in RN7; the sign for 44 is probably an error)
*RN7 -> RN7_S; change the points through Melo to:
RN44_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.369740&lon=-54.245092
CFloSan_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.369188&lon=-54.181588
RN8_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.362844&lon=-54.170601
RN8/26 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.364040&lon=-54.163402

*add PosChuy http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.387282&lon=-54.023745
*replace +X61 with PobUru http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.538239&lon=-53.561611
*VapCeb -> LagoMer (street name not signed; this is a nationally maintained branch to Lago Merín)

RN27:
*AndRod -> LagNor (street name not signed here)
*+X02 -> EstBat
*add Roc http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.158649&lon=-55.387917
*RN29 -> Ama (I can't find any 29 shields on the locally maintained piece east of Minas de Corrales, and GIS shows it hitting 27 farther west)
*Gua -> PobGua (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.620162,-54.9007941,3a,46.4y,346.35h,75.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sl6cYuKaLdl3k14BaBj73YA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and move west to the correct intersection, or rename PueAbr
*replace +X09 with ArrBla http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.658459&lon=-54.831240 ; add +X770096 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.719917&lon=-54.747019 and Alb http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.757109&lon=-54.715315

RN28:
*reverse the direction to match km posts
*replace +X08 with Cun http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.656633&lon=-55.422957
*RN29_E -> Ama, RN29_W -> RN29 (I can't find any 29 shields east of here)
*replace +X05 with ToRN27 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.467801&lon=-55.418859
*CerCal -> Cal (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.3919479,-55.3936024,3a,20.9y,72.63h,79.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skZr4SZL1wrpTCN4iAuj0Ig!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

RN29:
*replace +X02 with PasoRog http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.526465&lon=-55.613378
*RN28_N -> RN28 and delete beyond; I can't find any 29 shields east of here and it's all locally maintained
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 21, 2020, 05:20:30 pm
RN30:
*add ColJoseArt http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.476861&lon=-57.125173
*+X08 -> Yac
*replace +X12 with EstCua http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.456813&lon=-56.825109
*replace +X14 with Top http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.424660&lon=-56.681771 and +X749751 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.451152&lon=-56.608729
*AveGenArt -> BvarJoseArt (https://www.google.com/maps/@-30.414082,-56.4837713,3a,37.9y,321.53h,86.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svEat4Dhbd6r1Sa7KHSEjUg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*AvveBalBrum -> AvdaBalBrum (https://www.google.com/maps/@-30.4063709,-56.4624008,3a,30.1y,218.42h,86.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soKStkM3GByS8e4NKhE_Mhg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*replace +X21 with PinGra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.509144&lon=-56.433399
*add PasoMac http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.644927&lon=-56.363726 and +X300889 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.680366&lon=-56.351581
*add RinPac http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.786567&lon=-56.273110
*add Sep http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.906643&lon=-56.192794
*replace +X27 with SarAra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-30.995471&lon=-56.139354
*ApaSar -> ColApaSar (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.0816938,-56.0118305,3a,22.9y,161.3h,85.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spvCt0r8L6TFY_vZo929Q3w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*add ValLun http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.156298&lon=-55.886979
*AveAme -> Tra_W (street name not signed); add Tra_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.196614&lon=-55.744886

RN31:
*add RutaJon http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.396396&lon=-57.664876
*replace +X03 with CnoCucSal http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.396396&lon=-57.589946
*Cal10 -> RinVal (street name not signed)
*CamVec -> PueCel (Camino Vecinal just means local road)
*replace +X13 with +X311313 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.331939&lon=-56.928964 and PasMun http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.334944&lon=-56.893172
*AveManOri -> AvdaManOri
*GIS shows 31 continuing east, locally maintained, but it's not signed so no change
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 21, 2020, 06:32:54 pm
RN32:
*national maintenance continues south (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7306953,-56.166927,3a,18.6y,28.39h,85.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3xXkTCXmKXCs0KPLaqYewQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.730398&lon=-56.166825

RN33:
*AveDanZun -> AvdaDanZun (but nothing is signed here)
*almost all of the GIS data shows 33 becoming 65 at +X02; there's no signage there or where you have the change

RN34:
*reverse direction to match km posts?

RN35:
*reverse direction to match km posts?
*national maintenance begins south of the interchange (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7531471,-55.6759616,3a,20.8y,350.33h,84.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgJmdxyQLJcQRzcCA-92u0g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656); maybe add Flo at the next circle south or maybe no change
*add PlaEstFlo (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7393833,-55.6816453,3a,19.4y,61.45h,91.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZzotHzBMjAUnSPKOU2Tekw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (unsigned locally maintained 103)
*LasTos -> Tos (but nothing is signed here)

RN36:
*add RN48_E, RN48 -> RN48_W and recenter
*CamCuaPie -> Pro (street name not signed here)
*CamLeon -> AguCor (street name not signed here); GIS shows this is a nationally maintained branch of 36 all the way to 46, but it's not signed

RN37:
*RN10 -> RbArg (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8606431,-55.2831916,3a,21.9y,34.71h,91.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3jpCo_YJs9aC6VkW3DjePg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (see discussion in RN10Pir)

RN38:
*GIS agrees with Wikipedia; 38 is a small locally maintained route from here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.885686,-55.02179,3a,37y,275.34h,83.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swDrzgKGnGLFLTqPYKcU4rA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) west to IB. It's not signed so no change.

RN39:
*GIS shows locally maintained 39 continues quite a ways into Maldonado, but I can't find any shields south of Arroyo Maldonado (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8150172,-54.9380501,3a,40.1y,99.45h,73.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYvjYRKkJQPydQe5FIERvow!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (which is in fact 14.5 km from the circle where GIS ends it). But then there's this sign that says 39 goes to Punta del Este (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8845629,-54.9693393,3a,31.6y,114.99h,84.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIenQGreVenAW9Pi-SJKWxQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). So it should start like:
AvdaRoo http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.936300&lon=-54.937847
RomBer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.904648&lon=-54.947895

*BulGenArt -> AvdaJoseBat
*AveDocHer -> AniPerMal (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8825651,-54.9509352,3a,18.5y,-8.92h,88.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1saARfCGbG8fktIzrMJWsaBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*CamCei -> CnoCei (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8224587,-54.9437505,3a,29.8y,15.19h,78.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVqpXRDAf-rDwVCg2EhXD_g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*PreTomBer -> TomBer (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7971508,-54.9212537,3a,15y,36.03h,87.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxht82Veg35_uXrwMYMBEuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*add SieCar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.649785&lon=-54.885206
*replace +X07 with ValCor http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.381873&lon=-54.795105
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 21, 2020, 07:39:31 pm
RN41:
*reverse the direction to match km posts?

RN42:
*replace +X04 with CnoPra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.657245&lon=-56.143527
*GenFlo -> PolYi (street name not signed); maybe move south closer to the center
*national maintenance ends north of Polanco del Yi, and I can't find any 42 shields north of there; replace +X07 with End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.474981&lon=-56.162421 and delete everything beyond unless I'm missing a sign

A second piece of 42 is signed west of 43 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.1162694,-55.7503902,3a,15.3y,344.02h,86.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbzQZjurjkDh6kEafznIVNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and east of 43 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.8883272,-55.6175088,3a,15.7y,53.3h,86.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shN__MUUz2xfFWhfPbcrGKQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). GIS shows it going northeast and southeast to 6, not to La Paloma, but there's no GMSV here. Here's how the file (RN42Bla?) should read:
RN19 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.116634&lon=-55.750165
+X758887 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.101644&lon=-55.767288
+X161288 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.060364&lon=-55.750895
+X369176 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.023584&lon=-55.763721
ToRN100 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.007116&lon=-55.757332
+X612482 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.006684&lon=-55.741153
+X992889 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.997470&lon=-55.737762
EstChi http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.013481&lon=-55.692170
+X268109 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.990488&lon=-55.687680
RN43_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.915765&lon=-55.612713
RN43_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.887219&lon=-55.617047
+X562729 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.837590&lon=-55.555630
+X582357 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.844260&lon=-55.539601
Pal http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.833966&lon=-55.526941
+X723158 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.889894&lon=-55.488639
+X189513 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.894074&lon=-55.465143
+X632843 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.911243&lon=-55.448910
RN6 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.915526&lon=-55.420894

RN43:
*replace +X05 with RN42_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.915765&lon=-55.612713
*GenJoseArt_E -> RN42_E
*GreFry -> BalPasoRom (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.6178709,-55.8141223,3a,15y,117.83h,84.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdsIDDoRKrDSYsBsVSH7NUg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

RN43Gre:
*GreFry -> BalPasoRom
*the alignment in San Gregorio is wrong per GIS (local maintenance) and flooding. Here's how it should read:
AvdaArtMol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.620183&lon=-55.814602
Car_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.617843&lon=-55.814055
Car_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.614147&lon=-55.833592

*replace +X01 with BalPicOri http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.567973&lon=-55.827541
*SalCel -> Ach (street name not signed here)

RN44:
*reverse direction to match km posts?

RN44Ans:
*LasFlo -> Flo and move west to the correct intersection
*according to GIS, the end of national maintenance should be at about End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.818702&lon=-55.183918 ; it continues locally maintained, but partly along a very minor looking dirt road to about here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8224928,-55.0606285,1448m/data=!3m1!1e3)

RN44Fra:
*GIS shows this is a branch of 7; only one sign, probably an error, shows 44, and this doesn't make logical sense as 44, so delete
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 21, 2020, 10:31:45 pm
RN45:
*add CnoCos http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.557661&lon=-56.593816 (a nationally maintained branch of 11)
*replace +X01 and +X02 with Pal http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.517793&lon=-56.549495 (unsigned locally maintained 78)
*RN79 -> 25Ago (I can't find any 79 shields on the locally maintained portion north of 78; I can't read this ancient sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.3619519,-56.5328737,3a,15y,250.25h,68.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPo9ErRbTgRRLG_g00ZniPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) but other signs in the area include 25 de Agosto)
*remove CamEsc20 and CamEsc19; neither is in any way important; instead:
+X210600 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.302429&lon=-56.512985
Rai http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.253652&lon=-56.521139
+X228981 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.185855&lon=-56.542425

*CarQue -> MevCarQue (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.1737177,-56.5551745,3a,18.3y,192.29h,80.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjqxoV1oohCnu9Y6QukFYdA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*add Pil http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.010106&lon=-56.547575
*GIS shows that 45 (locally maintained) ends at Flo; I can't find any shields beyond, so delete beyond there

RN46:
*I can't find any shields on the locally maintained portion west of RN36, so delete from End through ToRN47
*DieLam -> BvarDieLam

RN47:
*replace ToRN46 with a shaping point; it's unsigned and so is 46 west of 36
*End -> ParTaj (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.608277,-56.4680581,3a,15.8y,311.61h,84.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHDEiQ_-eRpNO4ELi0HgWvw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656); GIS shows 47 (locally maintained) continuing straight, but that doesn't appear to make sense

RN48:
*reverse the direction to match km posts
*LasAgu -> Agu
*RN36 -> RN36_N and recenter, add RN36_S
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 22, 2020, 06:37:27 pm
RN50:
*see discussion in RN22; replace RN22_E with:
JuanALav_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.268708&lon=-57.613249
CRin_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.269683&lon=-57.611285
RN22_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.265920&lon=-57.608233

RN52:
*I cannot find any signs for 52 on the locally maintained portion south of RN1, but it is signed south from 1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.336117,-57.2619693,3a,29.1y,141.51h,87.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLiOs9Zdd7lqXDIsDVriz8w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (to Colonia Valdense). Any of the following endpoints would make sense:
**RN1 (and ignore the sign pointing south because there's nothing indicating where it ends)
**JuanBon, where the median ends
**CJuanCar (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.3538622,-57.2779455,3a,15.3y,219.68h,83.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCuNzLeulNNzXSEa8_EJiaw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), where pavement ends
*one GIS dataset ends 52 at the south end of Cufré (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.2013369,-57.1090614,3a,39.1y,233.57h,87.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn11t57JqT1xNGxgINPi6qQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), while the other continues it through town to the north end (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.1933184,-57.1019847,3a,50y,211.43h,81.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKcABlALa38TFN_-axF5hPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). I don't know which is better, but the current end at Gua is not supported by evidence.

RN53:
*In Cufré there are signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.1971413,-57.1058683,3a,16y,256.33h,85.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sngfN5oUcjNgBo0VowZ-ezw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) showing that 53 exists 11 km away (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/-34.1975406,-57.1062545/-34.1741834,-57.1956864/@-34.1801105,-57.1766357,13z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-57.1382465!2d-34.1638335!3s0x95a3e8faeabf653d:0x3ab384465f982721!1m0!3e0), which is also what GIS shows as a locally maintained route. It's also shown straight across 52 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.3157433,-57.2336259,3a,15y,29.17h,87.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLHLF6HLKxg1VUESuvlkUiQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). According to GIS the route through Nueva Helvecia is Luis Alberto de Herrera-Lorenzo Artola-Federico Gilomén, but this includes a one-way street and the few signs that point towards anything. And I can't find any other signs on GIS's alignment to 12. So maybe take it into Nueva Helvecia but end it at GerImh http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.290760&lon=-57.235288 , ignoring the signs in Cufré as not providing enough information.

Also I found this (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.2885717,-57.2383847,3a,16.4y,1.9h,82.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stqMBqF_uGFTpduP3L8E2wA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). RR2 = Ramal Ruta 2 (Route 2 Branch)? GIS shows it to be 2 Ramal 5 straight ahead.

RN54:
*GIS shows the south end at either 19 de Junio or Mario Echeverría. km posts begin at the bridge north of downtown. I see no signs at any of these, but there are signs for the end of national maintenance (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.3999867,-57.4472307,3a,21.5y,210.34h,82.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxikP8hOlXLwZpwUxHhoitw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) a bit north of 19 de Junio. Sans any other signs I missed, it should probably begin at End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.400076&lon=-57.447220

RN55:
*GIS shows the (locally maintained) south end at the circle. So replace CamPol with MonPla (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.2176174,-58.0461445,3a,49.3y,287.6h,81.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skpz8faqD-MrZlIcgfXTZ5w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) at the circle.
*JuanZorMar -> ZorSanMar (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.9411018,-57.8130388,3a,15y,160.32h,86.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suKUAexV7hKgMgLt49Thyhg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)_S, add ZorSanMar_N
*add Cas http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.862968&lon=-57.737017 and SanMar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.779843&lon=-57.600052

RN55Pal:
*Par -> CPar (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.0600167,-57.4574611,3a,15y,188.5h,90.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGe1vXut_HLx13nhhRx2jsA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

RN56:
*GIS shows it continuing a bit west of 5, but that's not signed so no change

RN57:
*GIS shows a locally maintained piece west out of Sarandí Grande, but it's not signed

RN58:
*CamVegCruz [sic] isn't signed; if anything it should be CruzAlta, but I don't know where Cruz Alta is
*CamSanPed -> CnoSanPed; it's probably not signed though

RN59:
*GIS shows 59 (locally maintained) taking a different route near its south end, ending at 43 here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.5063848,-55.8634047,16z), but all indications on the ground are that it goes as we have it
*+X01 -> Oli
*replace +X05 with Fur http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.300718&lon=-55.833351
*+X09 -> MonChi
*+X12 -> Hil
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 23, 2020, 12:21:34 pm
RN62:
*GIS shows it continuing south past the 5 turnoff towards Canelones, but I can't find any signs. So no change.
*CarLema has no signs and is a minor road; replace with EscRur34 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.488501&lon=-56.292422 ?

RN63:
*GIS shows national maintenance continuing past RN11 to Boulevard Federico Capurro. It's signed as ending a bit shy (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.4465615,-56.3866797,3a,33.1y,223.45h,79.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWZJXEtIvi0HoHd017Em6cg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). So add End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.446751&lon=-56.386803
*add OldRN11_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.443095&lon=-56.384140 ?
*+X01 -> PasoSor

RN64:
*GIS shows national maintenance turning east at +X01 and ending at the railroad (it's signed a bit west (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.5295611,-56.2872188,3a,47.6y,331.24h,85.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sf7HiXISJVN9TVL0jUSipTw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)), with local maintenance turning north on Baltasar Brum. Signage (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.5307334,-56.2971551,3a,17.7y,29.07h,84.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s15wH0zUFPcpi0LTKFFndnQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) at +X01 doesn't mention 64, but I found some strange reassurance (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.5311591,-56.2893243,3a,15y,296.22h,82.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTg_DTMy4DBdfqT8iJ27zvA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) on the GIS route. So here's how 64 should read through Canelones:
ToRN11 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.530173&lon=-56.297164
GenFruRiv http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.528851&lon=-56.284182
RN11_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.524096&lon=-56.283764
AvdaMarMon_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.524560&lon=-56.275712
AvdaMarMon_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.522421&lon=-56.275438

RN65:
*move RN33 west (see discussion under 33)

RN68:
*GenArt -> AvdaArt (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.6669838,-56.2184282,3a,15y,193.05h,91.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1smZHKjktLsj4FgZiZkGwT8g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 23, 2020, 09:16:02 pm
RN70:
*GIS shows 70 (locally maintained) turning west to Capilla de Cella, but it's not signed that way. So no change; maybe add EscRur39 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.706861&lon=-55.505944 for people who followed that route

RN73:
*add PlaVer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.808562&lon=-55.309017 (unsigned RN72)
*GIS shows 73 (locally maintained) continuing east to CnoArr http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.843659&lon=-55.221362 (an unsigned nationally maintained branch of 93). It's not signed there but neither is it signed at RN37.

RN74:
*reverse direction to match km posts

RN75:
*GIS shows it continuing south (locally maintained) to 8, but it's not signed so no change
*delete RN84; GIS shows its east end at 74 and I can't find any signage beyond

RN76:
*GIS shows a locally maintained segment east of Mendoza Chico but it's not signed, so no change
*CamCar has no signs; delete and add PrePasoSev http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.265711&lon=-56.307067
*GenArt -> GenJoseArt (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.2024698,-56.3439243,3a,30.8y,94.8h,82.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKi2z6IvYODGxKLsPUWuzaw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

RN77:
*Cal1 -> Ind (street name not signed) and maybe move west to the central intersection
*delete GriAsc? (street name not signed and it's a minor intersection)
*CamFal -> PreSev (street name not signed)
*RN45 -> End (45 doesn't make it here)

RN78:
*GIS shows (locally maintained) 78 turning west instead of east at +X01, and this (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.5362066,-56.4497486,3a,75y,257.52h,74.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skP1P5jEqMxVH2zAM9ACStw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is a little too janky to be a route. In fact I can't find any signs on the local portion south of RN11. So delete before RN11 and RN79_N -> RN79.

RN79:
*I can't find any shields on either locally maintained section, so it should only run from RN11_E -> RN11 to RN78_N -> RN78

RN80:
*IdeCed -> EstMig (street name not signed)
*RN108 -> RN81_E, RN81/88 -> WilFerAld (see discussion below with 81; I also can't find any 88 shields in this area)
*add CnoSevHer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.407140&lon=-55.714245

RN81:
*DieLam -> BvarDieLam
*RN11_N -> RN11_W
*add OldRN11_W http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.452245&lon=-56.368146 ?
*I can't find any signs for 81 between RN80/88 and RN108. One GIS dataset shows that this is mostly nationally maintained, but the other has it as just a local street with no number. Combined with signs on the part of 108 south of 81 being for 81, I think there's a strong case for 81 taking two sides of the triangle. So RN80/88 -> WilFerAld and add RN80_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.490451&lon=-55.623565
*AveCen_S -> SolMat (street name not signed here)

RN82:
*DepRodPol -> DeoRodPol
*GIS shows the north end at RN86, but it's signed at RN11 so no change

RN84:
*GIS shows the south end at End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.781567&lon=-56.091599 and I can't find any signs south of there, so add that and delete RN102
*GIS shows the north end at RN74 and I can't find any signage north of there, so delete +X01 and RN75

RN87:
*reverse direction to match km posts?
*GIS shows a locally maintained southern extension to the beach, but it's not signed so no change

RN88:
*CalE -> EstTap (street name not signed)
*I can't find any signs for 88 other than at the west end (where it's signed for Tapia), and it's all locally maintained. Most importantly, there are no signs in Migues. GIS shows a gap, with the east end of the west section just north of Tapia. So maybe it makes sense to end it at End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.560656&lon=-55.749993 (and delete CalE).
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 23, 2020, 11:24:18 pm
RN90:
*replace Cal275 (no signs) with PueEsp http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.353129&lon=-57.948611
*move EstPor east two blocks to where the bus stop is?
*replace Pay with PieCol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.370184&lon=-57.609773
*CleCac -> Org (street name not signed)
*RN25_S -> RN25, RN25_N -> RN4
*AveGenArt -> AvdaGenArt

the readme should say that 93 is signed as IB, not that it's unsigned

RN95:
*reverse direction to match km posts
*CamCur -> CnoCur (but nothing is signed)
*CamLuisTuya -> Aer? GIS says no name and OSM and Google disagree

RN96:
*reverse direction to match km posts?
*see 21 for changes in Dolores:
PerManBla_N http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.518159&lon=-58.204247
EleBar http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.523168&lon=-58.208935
DrVicBer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.528356&lon=-58.210244
RN21_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.531342&lon=-58.216209
PerManBla_S http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.542709&lon=-58.209085

RN97:
*+X02 -> PaloSolo

RN99:
*reverse direction to match km posts

RN100:
*replace PueAlv (not signed?) with PasoMor http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.196574&lon=-56.282530
*replace +X06 with ArrPer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.085294&lon=-56.156445
*replace +X08 with Par http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.036460&lon=-55.940269
*replace +X09 with Bla http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.901957&lon=-55.900937
*replace DeLosAng with SanJor http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.847541&lon=-55.895959 (where the pavement changes)
*GIS shows this locally maintained route continuing north to here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.7014567,-55.8821491,3a,75y,21.02h,67.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGYWaO5VLgDISRTFT4BvO7A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), but I can't find any signs north of San Jorge
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on May 24, 2020, 04:38:14 pm
RN101:
*GIS shows national maintenance continues south to the city limits on Avenida de las Americas, perhaps as a branch of 101, but it doesn't seem to be signed, so no change
*AveWilAld -> AvdaWilAld or AvdaAme
*EstAerCar -> Aer
*RNIB -> RNIB_E? signs imply an overlap
*CamJuanLab -> CnoJuanLab
*AveRamCos -> AvdaRamCos (but I don't see any street signs)
*CamPasoEsc -> CnoPasoEsc (but I don't see any street signs)
*Gal -> CnoGal (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7648496,-55.9837509,3a,28.7y,40.42h,79.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2vYl4UdtP0ojWsMQMiqgMA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), move north to the circle
*CamLosHor -> CnoPer (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7490969,-55.967685,3a,27y,186.22h,86.14t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxwBozMr5-K1PVjgsilRISA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

RN102:
*CamFau -> CnoFau
*CesMayoGut -> AvdaCesGut (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7850646,-56.2227704,3a,17.6y,327.49h,84.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqtozLmhrNkrxgepdl7tYDA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*CamCorRaiz -> CnoCorRaiz
*AvePedMen -> CnoMen (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.794548,-56.1663617,3a,16.9y,122.94h,83.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szHo8AmriK3F8Xpfn33RSuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*AveIns -> AvdaIns
*AveJoseBel -> AvdaJoseBel
*RN84 -> CnoPasoAnd (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7903987,-56.1079334,3a,22.7y,126.05h,85.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssZWGDXV8uylkV9YwTW3cpA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*CamCruzSur -> CnoCruzSur

RN105:
*reverse direction to match km posts
*GIS shows national maintenance continuing east of 2 to Carlos Saenz, and this is signed (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.5110879,-57.81433,3a,15y,348.87h,86.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szaTLVkHMLPBEK6j-ArqC5A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), so add Pal http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.510896&lon=-57.809544

RN106:
*I can't find any signs for locally maintained 106 south of RN54, and signs there only point north. So delete everything after RN54 (and reverse direction?)

RN107:
*I can't find any signs south of RN67; GIS actually shows it ending five blocks north with no locally maintained continuation, but it's signed on 67. So delete RN6.

RN108:
*delete RN80? see discussion under 81; the part south of RN81 is only signed as 81
*I was going to say I couldn't find any signs on the locally maintained portion north of RN12_E, but then I saw this (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.2683578,-55.4540993,3a,18.7y,1.24h,78.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sj_hVI1S4vaJhnAeVQdMJCg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). GIS shows the north end of 108 at +X13, with (unsigned) 40 continuing. I can't find anything beyond there, so +X13 -> End.

RN109:
*GIS shows locally maintained 109 continuing west of RN39, but I can't find any signs, so no change
*CamSieGar -> CerCor (street name not signed)
*GIS shows a different (locally maintained) route in Rocha, but it's not what's signed, so no change

RNIB:
*RN101 -> RN101_N and extend west along 101 to its end? signage implies an overlap
*AveLuisBer -> CGonRod (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8217344,-55.9899044,3a,15y,99.54h,86.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNc6kYnU4LuLIwjVtmnMQFw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*AveUru -> AvdaUru
*AveMarCas -> AvdaMarCas
*AveEduPer -> Pan (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7917622,-55.9373051,3a,42.3y,223.69h,87.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suMP2ZU_6zqWdmaB63Rnl1w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (street name not signed here)
*AveIngGia -> AvdaGia (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.788659,-55.8984891,3a,15y,136.08h,90.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZ6AZZwMMVmLnlOi0qKLV6w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*add RsoNep (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7846482,-55.8881194,3a,15y,93.42h,86.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCFdFvnJS4OZgsy2P5bxzJA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.784431&lon=-55.887859 (unsigned 10)
*AvePin -> AvdaPin
*AveArg -> RepArg (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7506205,-55.7101868,3a,15y,56.25h,86.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4Gv7_dXMMkZg-oplnmJqAA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*Ave1 -> BelHor (street name not signed here)
*add Gua http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.753707&lon=-55.611489 (unsigned 103)
*Bah [sic] -> Tuna (street name not signed here)
*add SanLucEste http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.783831&lon=-55.537165 (unsigned 103)
*Cal1 -> Bia (street name not signed here)
*GenArt -> Jau (street name not signed here)
*CorPea -> GreAzn (street name not signed here, and it might not be correct - the name on OSM literally means shortcut to toll)
*CamArr -> CnoArr
*AerLagSau -> AerPunEste (http://www.puntadeleste.aero/)
*AveAntLus -> CnoLus (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8852412,-55.0416819,3a,15y,151.02h,84.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXJqINhtu4Wjk-mBk55FN9w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*GIS shows that state maintenance ends at CnoLus and local maintenance (as 10) extends all the way around Punte del Este to the bridge to El Tesoro. Unless there are signs that I'm missing on the latter, +X04 and AveGenGom should be deleted.

201 (Avenida Giannattasio) is unsigned, so no change

GIS shows an unnumbered (or labeled RN ACC) nationally maintained route from the shared end of 1 and 5 to here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8730754,-56.2052918,3a,46.4y,248.27h,82.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sht9rCofXlKYcsAk4Rs_A1g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), with a branch along the waterfront (unnumbered or labeled RN RAMBLA) to here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.9105806,-56.2136062,3a,21.3y,362.09h,92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCWitSmfu5-2y_YsfJxfF3Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There's also an unnumbered (or labeled MILL) branch from 5 to Avenida Millán.

And that's it.
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on June 01, 2020, 02:27:21 pm
RN1:*I assume you've seen proof that the exit numbers are posted?

No! The issue was discussed here: http://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=2893.msg12978#msg12978
OK, so I'll go back and give better names.

I thought to generally go with km posts for unsigned GSJ in SA instead of using (unsigned) street or town names. Since the rule change was rejected, I could look into this now. I need to do the review uninterrupted. Likely next weekend.
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on June 01, 2020, 05:48:23 pm
I thought to generally go with km posts for unsigned GSJ in SA instead of using (unsigned) street or town names. Since the rule change was rejected, I could look into this now. I need to do the review uninterrupted. Likely next weekend.
They're all signed as something in Uruguay...
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on July 05, 2020, 04:02:56 am
Sorry for the late response!

RN1:
10 -> CnoCib

What's the source? What does "Cno" mean?

"10" was the way to name interchanges by the nearby km post like it was done for Argentina where we have many totally unsigned interchanges. To avoid confusing users by a numbered wp and the very next by a road name etc., I decided to use only km posts for those interchanges. This was not accepted and I we should apply the U turn rule (https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#uturn) here.
OSM and GM call the intersecting road "Camino Ciblis" -> "CamCib" (rule 4 "Truncated, visible cross road name" (https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#desired_named))
OSM and GM indicate the nearby towns of "La Paloma Tomkinson" and "Maracana" (rule 8 (https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#nearbytown) "Truncated, nearby town name") -> "PalTom" or "Mar"
GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8534421,-56.2772205,3a,75y,93.57h,87.7t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1sqXpe5JjviMTJiEfWm-ElEw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i36) only indicates "Paso de la Arena" and "Cerro" and "Casabo" (rule 9 (https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#distanttown) "Truncated, distant town name") -> "PasoAre", "Cer" or "Cas".

Which rule applies?

*12 -> CnoTom

OSM and GM "Camino Tomkinson" (rule 4) -> "CamTom"
GSV indicates "Pajas Blancas (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8517458,-56.2907164,3a,57.5y,137.12h,80.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9vHg2T73W9FfUF_WR1OkNg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)" and "Paso de la Arena (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8522539,-56.2877419,3a,15y,334.13h,86.55t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1sHaSbeY-XOXa9mvLJ6k958Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i36)" (rule 8/9).
No "CnoTom" though. What's the source? Which rule should apply?


*18 -> CnoFlo

OSM and GM indicate "Camino Manuel M Flores" (rule 4) -> "CamManFlo"
GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8214452,-56.3431253,3a,75y,359.22h,90.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sK2mAvKMWoVItnF-apsoO7w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) indicates "Paso de la Arena" and "Playa de Colorada" (rule 8/9). Paso de la Arena is the nearby town but is also indicated at the other junctions, see above.
Which rule should apply?


*20 -> ParLec

OSM: "Camino General Escribano Basilio Munoz" -> "CamBasMun" (Rule 4)
GM: "Camino Gral Escuela Basilio Munoz" -> "CamBasMun" (Rule 4)
GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8016296,-56.3448216,3a,75y,352.03h,82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spjWaWu7WkCqoQBA1fdR4bA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) shows a sign to the "Parque Lecocq", 7. Entrance roads for national/state/local parks or other tourist attractions (https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#parks) -> "ParLec" as suggested. Rule 4 beats rule 7 though.


*21 -> SanVaz

"Santiago Vazquez" (rule 8 )
OSM and GM indicate the road name "Tamandua" (rule 4)

*26 -> CiuPla_E

"Ciudad del Plata" (rule 8 ), also signed (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.769153,-56.3895176,3a,39.1y,324.06h,87.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAuyI8W8HDnvtZohsBLke6w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), "_E" for eastern wp.
OSM and GM indicate "Ruta 1 Vieja" -> "Ruta1Vie" (rule 4)


*32 -> PlaPas

OSM has "Avenida Rio de la Plata" -> "AveRioPla" (rule 4)
GM has "Rio de la Plata" which should be the same: "AveRioPla" (rule 4)
GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7405538,-56.4461187,3a,16.2y,332.83h,85.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2bIrXRvUEHmKJWGPprQmQQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) has "Playa Pascual" and "Ciudad del Plata" (rule 8 )

needed to break up a visible distance "error"

We don't care about VD Errors for active routes anymore and they are only in place because some (one?) highway data managers said it could help for preview systems.

PueAra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.527251&lon=-56.799005

OSM and GM indicate "Camino Voulminot" (rule 4)
OSM indicates "Rafael Peraza" as the nearby town (rule 8 ), also used on a direction sign at the other junction (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.5311555,-56.7886529,3a,75y,316.32h,88.4t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqoJGbYLLRy5uuHmX0yeLYw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
GM indicates it "Puntas de Valdez" though
GSV has "Balneario Arazati (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.5274975,-56.7992182,3a,15y,231.04h,80.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgPGkp6X8Ofnqk941E5TOtA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)" - whatever it means - "Arazati (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.5280458,-56.7961098,3a,75y,338.96h,73.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjZMehgGY_RZf3-7xo3bi9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)" beach sign (rule 7) and "Pto. Arazati (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.5277189,-56.7971412,3a,15y,307.69h,86.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxBy-i4_pKq314U8CmhPtjA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)" (rule 9?)


RN2:
PicBen -> NueHel (no street name is signed here)

"Picada Benitez" is indicated on OSM

FrayBen -> FrayBen_S, VlaRosBic -> FrayBen_N

"VlaRosBic" is indicated on OSM and GM. Rule 4 beats rule 8.
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: neroute2 on July 05, 2020, 10:50:18 am
Sorry for the late response!

RN1:
10 -> CnoCib

What's the source?
If not stated it's probably GSV: https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8532476,-56.2650545,3a,15y,336.77h,88.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJZSLHl439WTiEBcO0U5P7g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

What does "Cno" mean?
Uruguay's way of abbreviating Camino.

Which rule applies?
Rule 4, since the name is visible on signs.

*12 -> CnoTom
No "CnoTom" though. What's the source? Which rule should apply?
Rule 4...

*18 -> CnoFlo
Which rule should apply?
Rule 4... (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8154699,-56.343087,3a,15.7y,211.43h,87.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suaPvq_5an8NF69r7wPHwuw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

*20 -> ParLec

OSM: "Camino General Escribano Basilio Munoz" -> "CamBasMun" (Rule 4)
GM: "Camino Gral Escuela Basilio Munoz" -> "CamBasMun" (Rule 4)
GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8016296,-56.3448216,3a,75y,352.03h,82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spjWaWu7WkCqoQBA1fdR4bA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) shows a sign to the "Parque Lecocq", 7. Entrance roads for national/state/local parks or other tourist attractions (https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#parks) -> "ParLec" as suggested. Rule 4 beats rule 7 though.
I couldn't find any signs for the name, meaning it's not visible. So rule 4 doesn't apply.


*21 -> SanVaz

"Santiago Vazquez" (rule 8 )
OSM and GM indicate the road name "Tamandua" (rule 4)
Ditto.

Snipped other places you want to use unsigned street names. Please go back through these.

needed to break up a visible distance "error"

We don't care about VD Errors for active routes anymore and they are only in place because some (one?) highway data managers said it could help for preview systems.
WTF? https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/includepts.php "Intersections to split up long segments of 10+ miles (16+ km)."
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on July 05, 2020, 11:45:23 am
What does "Cno" mean?
Uruguay's way of abbreviating Camino.

Thanks! I'll change all Cam to Cno later.

I couldn't find any signs for the name, meaning it's not visible. So rule 4 doesn't apply.

There are a lot of exceptions, see this and subsequent comments on Github (https://github.com/TravelMapping/Web/issues/346#issuecomment-569525897). Maybe we need to clarify the rules since they are visible on maps (https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#named) and there is only one other vague statement (https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#avoidsecret) on visibility while driving? OTOH, I can see those road names on my GPS..........
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 08, 2020, 08:10:45 am
*AveAme -> PueIntArt (street name not posted)
*CamMesArt -> MesArt (street name not signed)
*AvePay -> C8 (I can't find signs for the former)

Keep as-is because they are indicated on GM and OSM


Queg http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.032837&lon=-57.848071
Queb http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.931295&lon=-57.857888

Qug and Qub, see https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#differentnames


Why have you suggested Cam (Camino) for new wps? I've replaced Cam by Cno.

What does "Cno" mean?
Uruguay's way of abbreviating Camino.

Thanks! I'll change all Cam to Cno later.

Edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4097
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 16, 2020, 04:47:26 am
Both missing RN4 segments added

Lav -> ColLav

colonia -> settlement


9 -> LuisBatBer

AveLBB


missing exit for CVer

CalVer


add CnoPer

CnoLEP


20 -> Paz

TomAld (OSM + GM)


27 -> Pro_S

AveBra (OSM + GM)


32 -> Pro_N

CnoCuaPia (OSM + GM)


BruChi

SimBol (OSM + GM)


38 -> Jua

SanMar (OSM + GM)


44 -> Can_S

GutRuiz (OSM + GM)


I'd generally prefer using the name of a town or village but our rules says street names. I'll just change it when OSM + GM confirm the street names but won't mention it here for further waypoints.


RN11/64 -> RN11? 64 isn't signed here

Keep as-is but will revisit it when I'll check your RN64 comments


AveJoseVar -> AvdaJoseVar (this or Av is how Uruguay abbreviates Avenida)
AvePabRios -> AvdaPabRios

I'll stick with Ave applying this rule:

https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#truncate

Quote
Abbreviate the generic road type (Rd for Road, Blvd for Boulevard, etc.) if it's one of the very common types. Otherwise, use the first three letters

There is no definition of "common generic road types".


(note that 58 is not signed here, but it's signed both ways from 6)

Yep, I have a lot of situations like this. Keep as-is.


222 -> RepBay

RN4


BuiJoseArt -> BvarJoseArt (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.8172382,-56.5015789,3a,15y,379.53h,86.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMX8cL9ZRV3i36vVZDwR5FA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

OSM + GM have different names but your GSV link does not show any sign.
I've changed it to BulJoseArt for the time being.


PasoTor -> RepGabTer (multiple waypoints lead to Paso del Toros, and this is the beginning of a nationally maintained spur to Represa Gabriel Terra)

I've replaced the wp by AngLop to the north

why the end at PrePedVie? GIS shows national maintenance ending at RN27 and local maintenance ending at the Arroyo Cuñapiru bridge; are there any signs north of RN27? GIS also shows a branch to the airport, beginning here with national maintenance beginning where the road to the border crossing branches off to the left; this sign at the border shows 5.3 km to RN5, which matches ending it at RN27

I guess I tried to find anything 2km north of RN27 as indicated on https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruta_5_(Uruguay) and extended the route to the next important junction. 2km north of RN27 is the bridge you've mentioned where local maintenance ends. Truncated to RN27.


Edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4115
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 22, 2020, 08:49:08 am
RN6:
*+X37 -> Pue329 (note that GIS shows that Puente 329 is nationally maintained as part of 6, but also shows the route to the east)

Cuc for Cuchilla da Ramirez


*add BalPasoPer http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.446510&lon=-55.225879

The route is interrupted by Rio Negro, routes split and both wps called PasoPerFry


*CamPasoVie has no signs and is not a major road; replace with PasoHos http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.651116&lon=-54.621127 closer to the middle of the community

wps must be at junctions but your PasoHos suggestion is not.
CamPasoVie -> CnoPasoVie


*+X72 -> BarSanLuis

Cannot find anything called like this. Using Cer for Cerrillada indicated on GM



RN7:
*+X03 -> PueSimBol

Bol for Bolivar


*RN14_W -> RN14, replace RN14_E with 18Jul at the circle to the southwest? I can't find any 14 signs between 7 and 8, and GIS shows the locally maintained route of 14 going to the circle

Keep as-is till I'll reach RN14.


*RN44 -> RamTri (GIS says this is a spur of 7; one older sign on 26 shows 44 but others show 7)

Same here.



I generally don't think that adding all those wps just for the sake of avoiding VD errors makes any sense. It hard to find those locations anywhere. However, I've added the suggested wps so far.


Edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4132
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 23, 2020, 04:39:16 am
RN8:
*JusOla -> CJusOla (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0445263,-54.7822498,3a,15y,52.45h,90.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEoGbV5SeKiZEN4qBpVdiZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

JusCotOla (CalJCO would be another option)


*RN14_W -> EstRet, RN14_E -> RN14? I can't find any 14 signs between 7 and 8, and GIS shows locally maintained 14 going straight west across 8 (though the route it shows is not all an actual road)

Keep as-is since both OSM and GM have the same routing and we don't know better right now.


*BulFruPue -> BvarFruPue

Bulevar means Boulevard but it isn't the same word.
I stick with using Bul (and Ave for Avenida, see upthread).


*add points to a long dry stretch:

The visible distance was only 65 miles ;)



RN9:
*AveGenRiv -> Roc_E (street name not signed, and it's not even at the correct street)

Moved to where OSM + GM indicate it.



RN10Pir:
*unless I'm missing something, 10 doesn't seem to be signed to 37. GIS and signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.8545098,-55.295921,3a,37.9y,157.85h,82.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMfiWL_8EODgIwijcWrD4Kg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) agree that national maintenance ends at C9 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.854462&lon=-55.295938 ; GIS shows no locally maintained 10 beyond

Si and me tend to close little gaps and connect graphs when the exact end is not clear - it is less than a mile here. Since there is a sign indiating national maintenance and GIS doesn't show the extension as locally maintained RN10, I've truncated it.
I call the wp Cal9, not C9.


edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4136
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 27, 2020, 06:46:42 am
RN11:
*RN79_N -> RN79, RN79_S -> PasoBel (I can't find any shields for the locally maintained piece of 79 south of 11)
*RN64_S -> ToRN64 (see discussion under 64) and move west to the center of the intersection

To be checked when RN79 + RN64 will be reached.

edit RN11-RN12: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4141
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 27, 2020, 02:16:47 pm
RN14:
*I can't find any 14 signs between 7 and 8. Unless I'm missing something, that means RN7_S -> RN7, delete +X60 through +X80, and split beyond RN8_N -> RN8 to a new file (RN8Las?)

OSM and GM show it and there is no doubt about the routing. Keep as-is.



RN19:
*GIS shows that 19 turns southeast here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.3345876,-54.0158398,18z) and ending here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.35692,-53.9888111,20z), which makes sense given the next piece; without GMSV we have no way of knowing for sure, but the exact east end doesn't seem right given aerial photos (extend it east to the intersection, or southwest two blocks?)

New end where 19 might turn southeast - or not. We don't know for sure.



edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4142
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 29, 2020, 04:43:57 am
RN21:
*what's the importance of ArmSom?

Oh, what's the importance of all the wps for dirt roads in the middle of nowhere just to avoid a 10 miles distance between visible waypoints....

ArmSom is the northernmost street of the build-up area heading to Real de San Carlos.


*CarCon -> Con (street name not signed)

RadHer for Radial Hernandez, the village where the junction is, not where the crossroad leads to.


*move Def north one block to Sol, signed as a truck route (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0019997,-58.2846774,3a,42.3y,7.83h,91.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRnDBPZcBnWPkP3kscqmtXw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
*GIS shows a two-block jog on Paraguay in northern Carmelo for locally maintained 21. Signs show northbound traffic turning left on Ansina (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.9897497,-58.2817423,3a,22.8y,49.16h,94.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snbWm4knvRwJReQJ-8iYWKg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) and right on Italia (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.9892852,-58.2836827,3a,26.8y,315.38h,88.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1szD9FkggRx5Nirh4nbzRczg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). There is a similar sign at Paraguay but none for the right turn from Paraguay. Southbound traffic has no signs for the turns shown on OSM, but Google's route is signed (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.0031347,-58.2872374,3a,29y,221.37h,83.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxPHV8V4ey6cEoETS6jK8tw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Here's how I'd show the route:
12Feb http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.003337&lon=-58.286086
Sol http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.001754&lon=-58.285711
Ans http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.989452&lon=-58.282900

The exact routing is sometimes a guess in URY. OSM + GM show the same route and that's how I've drafted it. I keep the wps as-is (only moving Def to Sol) - between the one-way streets because I think it is accurate enough.


*add CEduIra http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.980494&lon=-58.290807 at the other end of the truck bypass and +X571192 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.958454&lon=-58.319035 for shaping

No C for Calle in CEduIra and visible wp AveNep instead of +X571192

*RioUru has no signed name and is not necessary for spacing

Yep, the new AveNep is enough for the area.


*the bypass of Dolores is locally maintained and not signed as 21 at either end, merely as a truck route. There are signs (https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.5331929,-58.2155952,3a,32.4y,95.97h,80.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdHTPa18iIpc5xDK-DdcDeA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) downtown. The only difference from what GIS shows as the locally maintained route northbound is that signs use Dr. Victor Bertullo instead of Manuel Oribe. Southbound signage agrees with GIS, using General Fructuoso Rivera. So here's how I'd handle Dolores:

GM also indicates the route through the town. I only add the RN96 wp, the rest would be even more guess.



RN22:
*RN106 -> Mig? I cannot find any signs for (locally maintained) 106 south of 54

Will revisit it later when I'll deal with RN106.



RN24:
*remove NueBer; traffic to Nuevo Berlin is signed via RN20_W

But I would need a shaping point instead. Keep as-is since it looks important enough.


*TresQui -> SanJav_S

Keep name of village where the junction is, see above.



RN25:
*I cannot find any 25 shields on the locally maintained portion east of Guichón. So unless I'm missing something, RN90_W -> RN90 and delete the rest.

OSM + GM indicate the route. Keep as-is.



edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4144
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 29, 2020, 09:24:08 am
RN26:
*move PunCar west to the other street where the bus stop is, or simply remove it

Why should I remove it? You want me to add wps for dirt roads leading to nowhere but I should remove this wp to get a more than 20 miles visible distance gap? Moved.


*Cal1 -> ToRN6 (no street name signed)

Cal1 -> Tos

*RN44_S -> FraMue (see discussion in RN7; the sign for 44 is probably an error)

To be revisited.

*RN7 -> RN7_S; change the points through Melo to:
[...]
RN8/26 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-32.364040&lon=-54.163402

RN7_N

I've also added a wp in front of the border bridge for travelers who don't cross the border. I also do that for junctions in front of ferry terminals.



RN28:
*replace +X05 with ToRN27 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.467801&lon=-55.418859

I've also added a wp for RN27 to match this.



RN29:
*RN28_N -> RN28 and delete beyond; I can't find any 29 shields east of here and it's all locally maintained

GM does not indicate it, truncated.


edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4145
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 29, 2020, 02:02:59 pm
RN32:
*national maintenance continues south (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7306953,-56.166927,3a,18.6y,28.39h,85.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3xXkTCXmKXCs0KPLaqYewQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.730398&lon=-56.166825

By 0.16 miles only and end not at a junction. Don't change.



RN33:
*AveDanZun -> AvdaDanZun (but nothing is signed here)
*almost all of the GIS data shows 33 becoming 65 at +X02; there's no signage there or where you have the change

Keep as-is.



RN35:
*national maintenance begins south of the interchange (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.7531471,-55.6759616,3a,20.8y,350.33h,84.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgJmdxyQLJcQRzcCA-92u0g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656); maybe add Flo at the next circle south or maybe no change

By 0.31 miles. AveSarSol added.


*LasTos -> Tos (but nothing is signed here)

Removed.


edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4146 (including RN30+31 review)
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 30, 2020, 11:01:31 am
RN42:
*national maintenance ends north of Polanco del Yi, and I can't find any 42 shields north of there; replace +X07 with End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.474981&lon=-56.162421 and delete everything beyond unless I'm missing a sign

OSM + GM indicate the route. Keep as-is like I did for RN25. If anyone persuades me, I need to truncate both.



RN43:
*GreFry -> BalPasoRom (https://www.google.com/maps/@-32.6178709,-55.8141223,3a,15y,117.83h,84.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdsIDDoRKrDSYsBsVSH7NUg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

RN43Gre:
*GreFry -> BalPasoRom

Ferry is Fry -> BalFry.



RN44Ans:
*according to GIS, the end of national maintenance should be at about End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-31.818702&lon=-55.183918 ; it continues locally maintained, but partly along a very minor looking dirt road to about here (https://www.google.com/maps/@-31.8224928,-55.0606285,1448m/data=!3m1!1e3)

Keep End where is at the junction 0.13mi behind the sign.


edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4147
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on August 30, 2020, 02:55:00 pm
RN45:
*RN79 -> 25Ago (I can't find any 79 shields on the locally maintained portion north of 78; I can't read this ancient sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.3619519,-56.5328737,3a,15y,250.25h,68.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sPo9ErRbTgRRLG_g00ZniPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) but other signs in the area include 25 de Agosto)

To be revisited


*GIS shows that 45 (locally maintained) ends at Flo; I can't find any shields beyond, so delete beyond there

GM extends it to RN77 but not OSM. Truncated.



RN46:
*I can't find any shields on the locally maintained portion west of RN36, so delete from End through ToRN47

OSM + GM indicate the route. Keep as-is and put it onto the list with RN25 and RN42.



RN47:
*replace ToRN46 with a shaping point; it's unsigned and so is 46 west of 36

Cer for Los Cerrillos


edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4148
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on September 01, 2020, 10:57:31 am
RN52:
*I cannot find any signs for 52 on the locally maintained portion south of RN1, but it is signed south from 1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.336117,-57.2619693,3a,29.1y,141.51h,87.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLiOs9Zdd7lqXDIsDVriz8w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (to Colonia Valdense). Any of the following endpoints would make sense:
**RN1 (and ignore the sign pointing south because there's nothing indicating where it ends)
**JuanBon, where the median ends
**CJuanCar (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.3538622,-57.2779455,3a,15.3y,219.68h,83.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCuNzLeulNNzXSEa8_EJiaw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), where pavement ends

OSM + GM indicate the route. Keep as-is and put it onto the list with RN25, RN42 and RN46.



*one GIS dataset ends 52 at the south end of Cufré (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.2013369,-57.1090614,3a,39.1y,233.57h,87.17t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sn11t57JqT1xNGxgINPi6qQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), while the other continues it through town to the north end (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.1933184,-57.1019847,3a,50y,211.43h,81.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKcABlALa38TFN_-axF5hPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). I don't know which is better, but the current end at Gua is not supported by evidence.

So, none is right, keep wp as-is in-between likely 0.4mi off to one of the possible "correct" locations.



RN54:
*GIS shows the south end at either 19 de Junio or Mario Echeverría. km posts begin at the bridge north of downtown. I see no signs at any of these, but there are signs for the end of national maintenance (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.3999867,-57.4472307,3a,21.5y,210.34h,82.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sxikP8hOlXLwZpwUxHhoitw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) a bit north of 19 de Junio. Sans any other signs I missed, it should probably begin at End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.400076&lon=-57.447220

OSM + GM indicate the route. Keep as-is and put it onto the list with RN25, RN42, RN46 and RN52.


edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4150
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on September 01, 2020, 01:49:08 pm
RN62:
*CarLema has no signs and is a minor road; replace with EscRur34 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.488501&lon=-56.292422 ?

I don't see a big difference in importance but CarLema serves the village with more houses. Keep as-is.


RN63:
*GIS shows national maintenance continuing past RN11 to Boulevard Federico Capurro. It's signed as ending a bit shy (https://www.google.com/maps/@-34.4465615,-56.3866797,3a,33.1y,223.45h,79.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWZJXEtIvi0HoHd017Em6cg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). So add End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.446751&lon=-56.386803

I could extend the route by 0.23mi as suggested but there is no junction. I could extend it by another 0.13mi - or just leave as-is.


*add OldRN11_E http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.443095&lon=-56.384140 ?

No need for this wp.


edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4151
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on September 05, 2020, 04:02:36 am
RN73:
*GIS shows 73 (locally maintained) continuing east to CnoArr http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.843659&lon=-55.221362 (an unsigned nationally maintained branch of 93). It's not signed there but neither is it signed at RN37.

The extension is also indicated on OSM but GM ends it at RN37. Keep as-is.



RN76:
*CamCar has no signs; delete and add PrePasoSev http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.265711&lon=-56.307067

Your PrePasoSev location is at a bridge, not at a junction. Moving to the houses east of it.



RN79:
*I can't find any shields on either locally maintained section, so it should only run from RN11_E -> RN11 to RN78_N -> RN78

OSM + GM indicate the route. Keep as-is and put it onto the list with RN25, RN42, RN46, RN52 and RN55.



RN84:
*GIS shows the south end at End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.781567&lon=-56.091599 and I can't find any signs south of there, so add that and delete RN102

There is no junction. Keep as-is.


*GIS shows the north end at RN74 and I can't find any signage north of there, so delete +X01 and RN75

yep, only indicated on GM but not OSM. Truncated.



RN88:
*I can't find any signs for 88 other than at the west end (where it's signed for Tapia), and it's all locally maintained. Most importantly, there are no signs in Migues. GIS shows a gap, with the east end of the west section just north of Tapia. So maybe it makes sense to end it at End http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.560656&lon=-55.749993 (and delete CalE).

OSM + GM indicate the route. Keep as-is and put it onto the list with RN25, RN42, RN46, RN52, RN55 and RN79.



edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4158
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on September 05, 2020, 08:52:19 am
RN106:
*I can't find any signs for locally maintained 106 south of RN54, and signs there only point north. So delete everything after RN54 (and reverse direction?)

OSM + GM indicate the route. Keep as-is and put it on the list with RN25, RN42, RN46, RN52, RN55, RN79 and RN88.


edit: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4161



I'll have another look into data check but right now everything looks (technically) fine.


Any further comments or can I active the system?
Title: Re: uryrn: Uruguay Rutas Nacionales
Post by: michih on September 07, 2020, 01:20:24 pm
The first system in South America will be activated with the next site update.