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Updates to Highway Data / Re: AR: AR980 Midway?
« Last post by rickmastfan67 on Today at 03:53:55 am »
There is no junction signage on AR126 for it, but there is one AR980 shield for this route.

It did @ AR-126 at one point per StreetView.
https://goo.gl/maps/qKzgqYUWXAipXgAc6
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Other Discussion / Re: Mapping 6+ lane freeways
« Last post by michih on Today at 12:57:52 am »
I see the tiny bit of orange at Pforzheim now on the big map http://autobahnatlas-online.de/AutobahnkarteMitAS.pdf (dated April, so more recent than when you have the annual update) that I used. I'm not perfect.

No one is perfect. I just had a look into for rating if I like the idea of mapping 6+ lane freeways.
The route pages are better than the map: http://autobahnatlas-online.de/A8.htm just edit the url, use the links at interchanges or open the link via the "Routes" page.

I've changed them, given you don't seem to want to, instead flagging them here rather than just changing them.

I don't like the approach since it is quite inaccurate as long as we cannot map segments between shaping points.

A6 in Baden-W├╝rttemberg is not yet 6-laned east of A81. It in planning stage for ages (10+ years) and still far away from construction. There is some permanent shoulder running though. You have mapped it being 6-laned from exit 39 to 40. However, it is partially 6-laned from exit 39 to 42: http://autobahnatlas-online.de/A6.htm#Weinsberg_81

Even if we could map segments between shaping points, what about 5-laned segments, e.g. additional uphill lanes? Look at A6 between exit 49 and 50. It's a mess. I'm not (yet) convinced by the basic idea.

We might start with 8+, 10+ or 12+ user list files first because it's easier to complete as a first shot. Just my 2ct....
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Updates to Highway Data / Re: AR: AR980 Midway?
« Last post by vespertine on Yesterday at 05:57:33 pm »
Bumping this up. Kinda forgot about this until my recent trip again as realized no action/discussion had been taken yet.
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Updates to Highway Data / MO: MO13, MO13BusBra
« Last post by vespertine on Yesterday at 05:55:10 pm »
Two things: First, the point at the southern end of MO13Bus Branson West is labeled incorrectly as MO413_S. But secondly...MO13Bus isn't signed with bannered shields at all. It is labeled as "Business 13" on green signs and street sign blades, but no shields at all. Is this acceptable enough to be in the HB?

v.
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Updates to Highway Data / Re: CO: E470/I-70 interchange
« Last post by rickmastfan67 on June 01, 2023, 10:07:42 pm »
I don't think it makes any sense to have a third point for E470 or a second point for I-70 here, given these would both represent points at which one cannot enter or exit the freeway and thus... not useful.

This means no graph connection, but that's fine - that's how it's done when an interchange between two routes has the connection points between them offset like this (every turnpike trumpet for example).

Exit '20B' on NB E470 disagrees with you there (this would be my '20' suggestion above), as it's a direct flyover to I-70 WB.  Thus, there should be a graph connection still.
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Updates to Highway Data / Re: CO: E470/I-70 interchange
« Last post by Duke87 on June 01, 2023, 08:56:39 pm »
I don't think it makes any sense to have a third point for E470 or a second point for I-70 here, given these would both represent points at which one cannot enter or exit the freeway and thus... not useful.

This means no graph connection, but that's fine - that's how it's done when an interchange between two routes has the connection points between them offset like this (every turnpike trumpet for example).
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Other Discussion / Re: Mapping 6+ lane freeways
« Last post by si404 on June 01, 2023, 04:45:50 pm »
@si404:
- There are errors for your US and even ENG entries. Don't you use the "list tool" editor?
They weren't my US entries - they were copy-pasted from the aaroads thread.

The ENG ones I did off memory of our side of things, checking labels only when I wasn't certain what it would be and copying the label off the browser (rather than waste a load of extra clicks using the list tool to get a single point label - used it in DEU due to the regions, and remembered why I only use it when necessary). I can fix them easily.
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German A8 is not yet 6-laned at Pforzheim (u/c by 2026+).
- A8 is also 6-laned from exit 61 to 62b, not 61 to 62a.
- I'd close A7's gap between exit 67 and 70 as it is already mostly 6-laned now, remainders to be opened "soon". autobahnatlas-online.de is only updated once per year ~ February/March.
I see the tiny bit of orange at Pforzheim now on the big map http://autobahnatlas-online.de/AutobahnkarteMitAS.pdf (dated April, so more recent than when you have the annual update) that I used. I'm not perfect, and nor are you - eg occasionally we misread i as l (to take a mistake in your work I found today when peer reviewing - one that I make often too!), and we don't always get 100% when converting data from one form to another.

I've changed them, given you don't seem to want to, instead flagging them here rather than just changing them.
https://github.com/si404/UserData/commit/9f9ae043cf9564a40c1ec1510fb470575484f240
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Other Discussion / Re: Mapping 6+ lane freeways
« Last post by michih on June 01, 2023, 03:27:18 pm »
Here it is: https://travelmapping.net/user/?u=6lane

@si404:
- There are errors for your US and even ENG entries. Don't you use the "list tool" editor?
- German A8 is not yet 6-laned at Pforzheim (u/c by 2026+).
- A8 is also 6-laned from exit 61 to 62b, not 61 to 62a.
- I'd close A7's gap between exit 67 and 70 as it is already mostly 6-laned now, remainders to be opened "soon". autobahnatlas-online.de is only updated once per year ~ February/March.
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Other Discussion / Re: Mapping 6+ lane freeways
« Last post by the_spui_ninja on June 01, 2023, 03:18:03 pm »
Yeah the biggest limitation here is this will not catch cases where a route is 6 or more lanes on both approaches to an interchange, but does not maintain 6 thru lanes through it. A situation which is fairly common, so this is a nontrivial limitation.

I was thinking about this earlier this morning as I got the ball started before work.  Where there are multiple interchange points to support it, things can be tweaked (I did such with some of the Minnesota routes).  Where the route lists went with 1PPI, we'll just have to live with it.

That said, Jayhawk and I both agreed that where the lanes are strictly auxiliary lanes between interchanges that are not multiple miles apart, they do not count.

What if they're auxiliary lanes that are multiple miles long? I-229 in SD has auxiliary lanes between all the exits except 9 and 10, would that count?
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Updates to Highway Data / Re: CO: I-70 Denver tunneling changes
« Last post by the_spui_ninja on June 01, 2023, 03:11:25 pm »
I'll get these in next time I do a highway update.
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