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Re: Australia
« Reply #60 on: March 18, 2019, 08:59:45 am »
Wow. NT and SA A3 look especially useless for the designation.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2019, 09:10:19 pm »
AUSWA N94 has a bad trace in the Coolgardie area.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #62 on: March 25, 2019, 09:38:54 am »
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ABORTING due to 7 errors:
1: Could not find Route matching root austas.n001hob in system ausn.
2: No roots in _con.csv line [ausn;N1;;Hobart-Lauriceston, TAS;austas.n001hob]
3: Could not find Route matching root austas.n001bur in system ausn.
4: No roots in _con.csv line [ausn;N1;;Lauriceston-Burnie, TAS;austas.n001bur]
5: Check FAILED: 49485 routes != 49483 connected route roots.
6: route austas.n001 not matched by any connected route root.
7: route austas.n001lau not matched by any connected route root.

ausn_con.csv
ausn;N1;;Hobart-Lauriceston, TAS;austas.n001hob
->
ausn;N1;;Hobart-Lauriceston, TAS;austas.n001

ausn;N1;;Lauriceston-Burnie, TAS;austas.n001bur
->
ausn;N1;;Lauriceston-Burnie, TAS;austas.n001lau
« Last Edit: March 25, 2019, 09:56:18 am by yakra »
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Re: Australia
« Reply #63 on: March 25, 2019, 12:03:10 pm »
I've fixed that issue locally. It seems the commenting out was done locally at all, hence why the master copy doesn't have it, breaking checks.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #64 on: March 25, 2019, 12:17:43 pm »
Now pulled the fix in (after checking) - it works and can be pulled into personal branches to perform checks.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2019, 05:10:23 am »
Hmm, does it matter that N1 in Tasmania is a T-route, intersecting with itself just south of downtown Lauriceton? Coupled with both routes being of similar length, it's why I didn't set one or the other as the 'main' segment.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #66 on: March 27, 2019, 05:38:41 am »
We can change it back to that, but precedent elsewhere here is that you have a long route and a short spur rather than two roughly similar lengths.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2019, 09:32:08 pm »
Here's a first batch of peer review comments on ausm to start with.

AUS-ACT M23:
- B52/B23 -> B23_S (B52 is not signed in this area)
- relocate LimeKilnRd to halfway between RIROs

AUS-NSW M1Bal:
- NSW2 -> B2? This is a short connector to QLD2. QLD retains the old SR system while NSW has converted to B instead. But it is signed with an SR shield.
- PacHwy -> SexHillDr
- ClotCreRd -> CloCreRd
- WilfSt -> WilSt
- T40_S -> T28/40
- T28/T30 -> B62/30 (T28 is not signed here, B62 is - only use higher level designator)
- BanRd -> T24/28

AUS-NSW M1Woo:

- despite being motorway grade this is all signed as A1. Join with A1Gra and A1Cof.

AUS-NSW M1Haw:
- Combine B83_N and A49 into A49/83 (one point per interchange)
- NSW33 -> T33
- B83_MW -> B83_Mou
- B83_Haw could use recentering
- More shaping points will be needed along segment paralelling B83 to prevent the two from crossing where they don't once ausb is drafted.
- B83_S -> B83_Ber
- Informational note: freeway construction is underway extending south. Not sure if will be numbered M1 or not.

AUS-NSW M1Kem:
- despite being motorway grade this is all signed as A1. Join with A1Eun and A1Bul.

AUS-NSW M1SHB:
- not signed as M1, delete route (or move to an aussf system?)

AUS-NSW M1Syd:
- recheck north end. Interchange with M2 convoluted. Unclear from signage where exactly M1 begins/ends.
- M1SHB_N -> CahExpy_N
- M1SHB_S -> CahExpy_S
- remove BridgSt (no access to/from M1 here, only to/from CahExpy)
- remove ArtGalRd (no access here)
- combine BotRd and MillPondRd (one point per interchange)
- ForeRd -> ForRd

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Re: Australia
« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2019, 10:36:56 am »
Here's a first batch of peer review comments on ausm to start with.

AUS-ACT M23:
- relocate LimeKilnRd to halfway between RIROs
You mean LILOs!  ;)

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AUS-NSW M1Bal:
- NSW2 -> B2? This is a short connector to QLD2. QLD retains the old SR system while NSW has converted to B instead. But it is signed with an SR shield.
I'm going to say it's QLD2 extending over the boundary.

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AUS-NSW M1Kem:
- despite being motorway grade this is all signed as A1. Join with A1Eun and A1Bul.
- on the route its signed as M1, but otherwise A1. Holding off for now, pending further investigation (ditto N end of Sydney section).

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Re: Australia
« Reply #69 on: September 14, 2019, 06:29:37 pm »
AUS-ACT M23:
- relocate LimeKilnRd to halfway between RIROs
You mean LILOs!  ;)

Er... yes, that would be how that works wouldn't it.

Funny thing about countries that drive on the opposite side of the road from what I'm used to - my brain tends to want to adapt to this by simply mirroring the definitions of left and right, since this is easier than having to re-conceptualize the significance of every instance of either word.

This works great in my head, but it makes communicating concepts of relative direction to others challenging.

Anyway, moving on...

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N end of Sydney section

As I've had time to think about it a little more I think the endpoint is correct as mapped, because it makes M1 continuous with A1, and that's how routes in Australia seem to work - the same number will run for an entire corridor but change classification where warranted.
The location of the M1/M2 junction probably needs to move east to where the carriageways join though.

And here's batch 2 of comments.


AUS-NSW M1Kem:

If kept in ausm the following applies:
- NSW12/14 -> T12/14
- MacValWay_N -> T12_S
- MacValWay_S -> MacVlyWay
- NSW10 -> T10


AUS-NSW M1Uru:

- despite being motorway grade this is all signed as A1. Join with A1Eun and A1Cof

AUS-NSW M1Wol:
- combine NorAve and UniAve (one point per interchnge)
- 5IslRd -> FiveIslRd

AUS-NSW M2:
- check east end (see also comment on M1Syd)
- A2/A40 -> A2/40

AUS-NSW M4:
- combine ConRd and A4/44 (one point per interchange)

AUS-NSW M5:
- M7/M31 -> M7/31

AUS-NSW M7:
- M5/M31 -> M5/31

AUS-NSW M15:
- OK

AUS-NSW M31:
- Some drama going on with exit numbering on this road. It appears exit numbers 1-12 were added to the route in ~2016, as a sort of pilot project perhaps. Then, in April 2018 the exit numbers south of exit 6 were removed. This is generally corroborated by looking at GMSV imagery from different dates, and is also noted in this thread on the Aussie Highways Newsgroup: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/aussie-highways/2y5W7_vnKHU
So in terms of point labeling that gives us:
   - M5/M7 -> 1
   - A28 -> 2
   - CamRd_Cas -> 2A
   - BroRd -> 3
   - CamRd_Ing -> 4
   - RabRd and CamRd_Woo -> 5 (numbered exit and one point per interchange)
   - A9 -> 6
   - 7 -> B88
   - 8 -> AvonDamRd
   - 9 -> T12_Yan
   - 10 -> T12_Col
   - 11 -> B73
   - 12 -> OldHumeHwy_Wel
- OldHumeHwy -> OldHumeHwy_Ber
- add point for interchange at Sally's Corner Rd (south of A48)

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Re: Australia
« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2019, 06:47:37 pm »
- NSW12/14 -> T12/14
- A2/A40 -> A2/40
- M7/M31 -> M7/31
- M5/M31 -> M5/31
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Drop the prefix of the second highway if it is more than one character long. A5/A6 becomes A5/A6. I-5/I-6 becomes I-5/6. I-25/US50 becomes I-25/50.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #71 on: October 05, 2019, 12:42:19 am »
Just had a look at ausvic.m001.
Why does it have 1(E) and 1(W) style labels, rather than E1 and W1?
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Re: Australia
« Reply #72 on: October 05, 2019, 04:45:37 am »
I don't know why they have them, but I can tell you that they still have them because I didn't change them when I took the route 1 routes and cleaned them up a little and added other routes.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #73 on: October 05, 2019, 05:46:34 am »
I used E1 and W1 when I drafted the route.

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Re: Australia
« Reply #74 on: October 05, 2019, 08:42:51 am »
You're right. I remember changing them now. Don't remember why! Will change back.