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Re: canmbp: Manitoba Provincial Roads
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2019, 08:21:03 am »
MB302:
MB52/210 -> MB52 ?
MB44/215 -> MB44 ?


MB304:
OHa for O'Hanly is fine but I only found direction signs indicating "Little Black River"
Is RiceRivRd off? OSM and WorldImagery have a junction to the west which is not visible on 2009 GSV
OueLake -> OueLakeRd
Do we need AnnSt wp?
+X114258 is off
+X303293 is off
MB12 -> MB12/59


MB305:
15W is 248 on OSM
11W is 336 on OSM and GM


MB321:
OSM has a different route b/n 7E_S and MB7_S; 2014, 2016 and October 2018 GSV confirm TM route


MB323:
Extends at west end on OSM, 2009-2018 GSV confirm its end at MB6 though


MB325:
16W is off


MB326:
Ends at 329 on OSM, 2012 GSV confirms TM's end (all OSM issues below are also NOT confirmed by the last available GSV)


MB330:
MolRd is signed Road 37
wps are a little bit off compared to Esri WorldImagery and OSM but I think too less to change it


MB334:
MB241_E -> MB241 (241 extends at west end on OSM though)


MB336:
Extends on OSM and GM at north end, which is wrong according to 2012 GSV, see MB305


MB340:
TreRd is 451 Highway on OSM and GM
TreRd is signed but there is also a 43N sign
HorRd is not signed, only Magazine Road and .... 54N ?
ShiRd is off


MB341:
106W_N is road 346 on OSM and GM (not confirmed by GSV)


MB343:
Extends at west end on OSM (not confirmed by GSV)


MB344 / MB344waw:
Is the bridge (still) closed?


MB347:
Extends at east end on OSM (not confirmed by GSV)


MB348:
Extends at south end on OSM (not confirmed by GSV)


MB349:
Extends at west end on OSM (not confirmed by GSV)

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Re: canmbp: Manitoba Provincial Roads
« Reply #46 on: October 31, 2019, 02:48:08 pm »
MB350:
OSM has a branch east of 54N at Lavenham which must be wrong. However, this road might get a wp ?


MB351:
CampHugRd is also RD 91 W
DaneDr is also RD 90 W


MB352:
LanAve is only signed 87 N


MB353:
CorRd is also signed RD 98 W


MB354:
Extends at south end on OSM and GM but 2014 GSV shows a ENDS sign
OSM indicates it not being concurrent to MB16 but 2018 GSV confirms that we are right
End -> 130 W ?
80N is road 469 on OSM


MB359:
Extends at east end on OSM, GSV is incomplete. No evidence for end (but surely by your official source)
MB16 -> MB16/83


MB360:
82W is also road 360 on OSM


MB361:
Extends at west end on OSM, no ENDS sign but a EAST sign. GSV ends here.
No junction at BellLakePP according to OSM and September 2019 GSB (Google Snow Bike). It's also not a wp in use.


MB366:
MB485 is off


MB367:
IceCreRd -> IceCrkRd ?
SL10-44 is off


MB373:
I'd move NorHouFry to the end of the landing stage, see ferry location for MB373nor


MB373nor:
*OldMB373_D is off
*OldMB373_I is off
PauRd is off


MB374:
*OldMB374_A is off
*OldMB374_E is off
*OldMB374_E -> OldMB374_E ?


MB375:
Extends at east end on OSM and GM, no GSV available


MB384:
+X799771 is off
+X929289 is off
+X473527 is off
+X208110 is off
+X124263 is off


MB391:
Life is a highway :)


MB392:
+X963257 is off
AndBay is off
+X351645 is off


MB395:
SK/MB is off
Some hidden wps are off
MB398 is off


MB395:
Extends at west end on OSM and GM, no GSV available


MB399:
Extends at east end to the north on OSM, no GSV available
Extends at east end to the south on GM, no GSV available

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Re: canmbp: Manitoba Provincial Roads
« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2019, 07:49:44 am »
MB406:
MB44 -> MB11/44 (MB408 is correct on this)


MB411:
MB6 is off
OSM indicates other route numbering (partially)


MB416:
OSM has a different route


MB423:
MB3 -> MB3/34


MB425:
has no connection to MB101
New wp for Race Track Road?


MB432:
WilRd is only signed Road 12 N


MB433:
FisGro is South Maple Dr (OSM + 2018 GSV)


MB443:
Wp for Ninga ?


MB445:
Extends at west end on OSM but 2009 GSV shows the ENDS sign
MB3 -> MB3/83

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Re: canmbp: Manitoba Provincial Roads
« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2019, 10:10:35 am »
MB450:
End position lacks the ENDS sign. I couldn't find any sign except of a NORTH sign in the opposite direction about half a mile to the east/north
New wp @ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.014195&lon=-100.343164 because it also leads to the END wp


MB452:
New wp @ http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.318765&lon=-100.850056
DufAve -> 150W or 22N


MB458:
Extends at north end on OSM but 2018 GSV shows the ENDS sign at our end point


MB459:
MarRd -> 114W


MB464:
67N_E is off


MB468:
67N is indicated being road 561 on OSM


MB469:
Extends at east end on OSM but 2014 GSV shows the ENDS sign at our end point


MB475:
MB16 -> MB16/83


MB478:
171W is off, other non-MB wpts also a little bit


MB480:
84W is off
Route is different on WorldImagery at Guy


MB482:
137N is off


MB491:
DriRiv is off


MB493:
Is missing on OSM


MB493sil:
AirRd is off

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Re: canmbp: Manitoba Provincial Roads
« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2019, 11:00:12 am »
MB500:
MB12_S -> MB12/59


MB501:
Extends from 45E to the east on OSM and GM, but we have it to the north. No GSV available.


MB513:
+X358971 is off, new alignment?
+X981388 is off


MB530:
Extends at north end on OSM and GM by accident, 2014 GSV shows ENDS


MB575:
Extends at west end on OSM, no GSV


MB584:
163W_N is off

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Re: canmbp: Manitoba Provincial Roads
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2019, 04:02:19 pm »
I think I should report everything as I did except of cases like "MB12 -> MB12_W" and "MB52/302" (tier 4/5 mix)?
All of the latter:
MB/canmbp/mb.mb210.wpt: MB52/302 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.517504&lon=-96.510521
MB/canmbp/mb.mb215.wpt: MB44/302 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.061679&lon=-96.498092
MB/canmbp/mb.mb222.wpt: MB9/231 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.640116&lon=-96.994943
MB/canmbp/mb.mb231.wpt: MB9/222 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.640116&lon=-96.994943
MB/canmbp/mb.mb283.wpt: MB10/285 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.823322&lon=-101.252648
MB/canmbp/mb.mb285.wpt: MB10/283 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.823322&lon=-101.252648
MB/canmbp/mb.mb302.wpt: MB52/210 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.517504&lon=-96.510521
MB/canmbp/mb.mb302.wpt: MB44/215 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.061679&lon=-96.498092
MB/canmbw/mb.rt042.wpt: MB75/100 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.777055&lon=-97.156611
MB/canmbw/mb.rt052.wpt: MB9/101 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.972122&lon=-97.073833
MB/canmbw/mb.rt090.wpt: MB7/101 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.989898&lon=-97.229020
MB/canmbw/mb.rt115.wpt: MB15/101 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.886108&lon=-96.958879
MB/canmbw/mb.rt135.wpt: MB1/150 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.855334&lon=-97.103906
MB/canmbw/mb.rt150.wpt: MB1/135 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.855334&lon=-97.103906
MB/canmbw/mb.rt155.wpt: MB3/100 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.775347&lon=-97.318590
MB/canmbw/mb.rt180.wpt: MB8/101 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.986739&lon=-97.106652


In case I were to go the other way with it... Saving some code I temporarily added to siteupdate.cpp, between
#include "functions/concurrency_detection.cpp"
and
// Create hash table for faster lookup of routes by list file name

ofstream mbplog("canmbp.log");
for (HighwaySystem *h : highway_systems)
  if (h->systemname == "canmbp")
    for (Route &r : h->route_list)
      for (Waypoint *w : r.point_list)
      {   if (strchr(w->label.data(), '/')) continue;
   if (w->colocated && w->colocated->size() >= 3)
   {   size_t mb = 0;
      size_t mbp = 0;
      for (Waypoint *p : *w->colocated)
        if (p != w)
          if       (p->route->system->systemname == "canmbp")   mbp++;
          else if  (p->route->system->systemname == "canmb")   mb++;
      if (mb && mbp) mbplog << r.root << ' ' << w->label << '\n';
   }
      }
mbplog.close();
return 0;

The only real examples to change would be
MB224: MB325 -> MB17/325
MB304: MB12 -> MB12/59
MB416: MB17 -> MB17/229
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Re: canmbp: Manitoba Provincial Roads
« Reply #51 on: December 20, 2019, 03:33:19 pm »
OSM has it as MB458 (Thunderforest and Stamen too)
Notably, "458" and not "PR 458" as per OSM SOP. Interestingly, the NRN shapefiles list both L_STNAME_C & R_STNAME_C as "458 Highway", though MB458 itself is elsewhere. This may be a vestigial trace of an old decommissioned route. I'll have to check out Historical Highway Maps of Manitoba and see what I can see.
http://content.gov.mb.ca/mit/maparchive/high/1990_1991_map.pdf
http://content.gov.mb.ca/mit/maparchive/high/1992_1993_map.pdf
There was once a MB458 there, that appears to be a victim of the 1992 Great Decommissioning.
At the same time, the modern MB458 was created when MB340's alignment through Treesbank and Stockton to Belmont was downloaded.

VISIBLE_DISTANCE: check draft MB MB304 AnnSt coords
Annex St appears to refer to MB304 itself here. No name available for point; deleting.
« Last Edit: December 20, 2019, 06:26:04 pm by yakra »
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Re: canmbp: Manitoba Provincial Roads
« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2024, 03:29:37 pm »
A bit late to the punch, but it seems like MB 334 was removed between MB1_E and MB425. There are ENDS assemblies on each side (SB, NB), and all 334 signs in between have been removed.

Additionally, there seems to be a long-term closure (as in, perhaps permanent) on 334 between the points 3E_N and 1E (SB, NB). There seems to be signage implying 334 is detoured on 247 (3 EB at 247, but not sure where it goes from there. I'd assume it's merely a detour along 247.

Also on MB 247, is another bridge that's been out for a while, between MB334_S and MB3_W. This one is simpler, as 247 was simply routed on 334 and 3. Here's EB at the former 247/334 split, EB at MB 3, WB 3 where 247 formerly split.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2024, 03:53:48 pm by LilianaUwU »