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RI: Pell Bridge Approach reconstruction
« on: October 08, 2022, 03:53:55 pm »
There's a project underway to change the Newport Pell Bridge approaches on the eastern side, which looks like it will include a reroute of RI 138 and affect RI 138A and RI 238 once completed.  Full completion is scheduled for the end of 2024, but it appears the new RI 138 EB alignment is open.
https://www.dot.ri.gov/projects/pellbridgeramps/
https://www.ri.gov/press/view/44464
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Re: Re: Rhode Island outlook
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2023, 10:37:31 pm »
There's a project underway to change the Newport Pell Bridge approaches on the eastern side, which looks like it will include a reroute of RI 138 and affect RI 138A and RI 238 once completed.  Full completion is scheduled for the end of 2024, but it appears the new RI 138 EB alignment is open.
https://www.dot.ri.gov/projects/pellbridgeramps/
https://www.ri.gov/press/view/44464
There is now street view coverage here.  On thing that's weird is that the RI 138 and TO RI 114 signs point to the left instead of to the right as one would expect.  Is this in error, or did RIDOT reroute RI 138 (more than we were expecting)?

We do have a RI 138A shield south of the roundabout, at least.
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RI: Pell Bridge Approach reconstruction
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2023, 12:38:12 am »
The new roadways associated with this are now all in place, and thus:

- RI 138 needs to be moved onto the new approach road
- RI 138A and RI 238 need to have... something done with their endpoint here, but what depends on whether they've been extended to still actually intersect the new RI 138 or whether they still end where the former interchange was. September 2023 GMSV shows no signage indication of an extension but this is RI so who knows.

EDIT: a local who was able to do a field check today informs me that RI 138A is now signed as proceeding north up JT Connell Highway and then using JT Connell Connector to meet RI 138 at the first signal after the bridge.

RI 238, meanwhile, appears to simply be no more.
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Re: RI: Pell Bridge Approach reconstruction
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2023, 09:17:56 pm »
There's also this and this; are those confirmed fixed/gone?  Of course, this is RI...
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Re: RI: Pell Bridge Approach reconstruction
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2024, 06:57:19 pm »
I was down here today to re-clinch RI 138 and RI 138A.  While the signage situation is as muddy as ever, I would recommend adjusting this as Duke87 suggested.

For RI 138, while the sign I pointed to (and another approaching the same junction) suggests a reroute, there is no further signage following that way or on any route it would likely be rerouted to, the existing route is well-signed, and there are orange signs for Newport, suggesting that this more likely either detour signage that never got removed, or simply in error with the arrows pointing the wrong way, rather than a planned reroute.

For RI 138A, the sign I pointed to is the only one suggesting that RI 138A exists north of the connector; nothing at the roundabout or the new roadway for RI 138 suggests this.  That sign is likely just missing a TO banner.  For the connector road, nothing on RI 138 NB that I was able to see (didn't actually go this way, but I was keeping my eyes peeled for anything that looked like route signage in the other direction, though it's possible I missed something).  RI 138 WB says the connector road is "TO" RI 138A, while the EB guide sign suggests it is RI 138A itself.

An yes, RI 238 signage appears to be gone.  When I clinched it in 2019, the only sign I recall seeing was this one.  That sign is now gone, probably removed when the intersection was reconfigured to favor RI 138A as the thru route.
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Re: RI: Pell Bridge Approach reconstruction
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2024, 11:57:35 pm »
Are the RI 238 signs here gone? Not that this is supposed to be 238...
https://maps.app.goo.gl/b7ZbKYw6Nwc4nzxdA

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Re: RI: Pell Bridge Approach reconstruction
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2024, 03:40:36 pm »
Are the RI 238 signs here gone? Not that this is supposed to be 238...
https://maps.app.goo.gl/b7ZbKYw6Nwc4nzxdA
I forgot about those!  Alas, I didn't think to look.
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Re: RI: Pell Bridge Approach reconstruction
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2024, 04:50:27 pm »
I found this sign for RI 238 in street view.  No idea if it's still there, but it seems more official than the Newport signs, which makes me wonder if the route we had for RI 238 was ever right.
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Re: RI: Pell Bridge Approach reconstruction
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2024, 09:54:24 pm »
citrus posted about this over on AARoads.  It looks like RI 138 may indeed be rerouted to JT Connell/Coddington.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?msg=2930273
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Re: RI: Pell Bridge Approach reconstruction
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2024, 01:54:07 pm »
Moved 2 of vdeane's posts here from the RI outlook thread.

Sigh... RIDOT gonna RIDOT.
They do like their spotty/missing/incomplete/inconsistent/contradictory signage.
I can't be confident that... whatever signage being described isn't a missing TO, and citrus's post, acknowledging they didn't look at all the angles I would want to to be sure (as I can be) about things leaves me with questions.
I guess I could get my tuchus down there at some point and see what I can see, unless someone beats me to it & provides (lots of) photos.
Hunting around for updates maps/shapefiles won't hurt either. ..."Nothing yet, sir!" -Spaceballs
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