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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Solved Highway data updates => Topic started by: Markkos1992 on January 18, 2022, 05:50:57 pm

Title: NY: NY 5 in Buffalo
Post by: Markkos1992 on January 18, 2022, 05:50:57 pm

Was there a consensus on the routing of NY 5 back when it was originally entered in the HB?

I am seeing the HB showing the EB (Church (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8845031,-78.8801049,3a,75y,190.73h,93.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sb7Uoj6DKEpu-bO1NmQjofA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), Division, Elicott (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8825814,-78.8741648,3a,75y,112.92h,90.76t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWnzEXHyKVgYpMBDpkFbVPg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), Goddell (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8950039,-78.8695671,3a,75y,303.66h,82.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqzEgJNJvP6VTZLXb1cPBSw!2e0!5s20210601T000000!7i16384!8i8192)) routing, while the signed WB (Pearl (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8952196,-78.8716075,3a,75y,277.66h,83.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shkYQwQ7YN9bx6xoZvfKouQ!2e0!5s20210601T000000!7i16384!8i8192), Chippewa (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8904996,-78.8740685,3a,75y,247.74h,82.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8g5lBcCU2rh2hjspStVKDQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), Elmwood (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8909865,-78.8779832,3a,75y,334.07h,87.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCH5_8_ZYfo5HmvwrPsk-QA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)) routing seems to be what I see in OSM.

The routing of NY 5 in Buffalo seems to be the craziest thing the other side of Lancaster, PA...

Title: Re: NY: NY 5 in Buffalo
Post by: cl94 on January 18, 2022, 09:28:22 pm

WB is Pearl-Chippewa-Elmwood. EB is Church-Ellicott-Goodell. Not only is that how it is signed, that is how it is in the logs.

The original route through Buffalo was Fuhrmann - Michigan - South Park - Main. First reroute came when the Skyway was built. When Main Street was pedestrianized, WB was moved mostly onto one-way (at the time) streets. This is the modern alignment. You could theoretically move EB to more closely match the WB routing now that Pearl Street was converted to two-way, but neither Buffalo nor NY has any interest.

Title: Re: NY: NY 5 in Buffalo
Post by: yakra on January 19, 2022, 12:06:56 am

Background:
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/2042

Title: Re: NY: NY 5 in Buffalo
Post by: Markkos1992 on January 19, 2022, 01:58:21 am

I think I would rather leave PA 999 as-is instead of break the graph connection and make things look wonky.  I could technically truncate PA 999 at King St (https://gis.penndot.gov/PENNBOTS/dist/videologImagesPopup.html?cn=36&rt=0462&juris=1&sg=0250&offset=2090&year=undefined&currentYear=undefined). 

I guess it is best for us to be using our judgements here as clearly shown and move on.