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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Solved Highway data updates => Topic started by: yakra on October 21, 2016, 02:58:14 pm
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The NB11 Caraquet Bypass opened Friday, October 14th.
It's shown on Google, but not yet on OSM. Updated GIS shapefiles are not yet available.
The only real info I was able to find was in a local French language newspaper:
La voie de contournement de Caraquet ouverte à la circulation (http://www.acadienouvelle.com/actualites/2016/10/06/voie-de-contournement-de-caraquet-ouverte-a-circulation/?pgnc=1)
Voie de contournement: des élus grincent des dents (http://www.acadienouvelle.com/actualites/2016/09/22/voie-de-contournement-elus-de-caraquet-furieux/)
As seems to be the case in NB, what becomes of the old route will take a little detective work.
The second article linked above suggests that Boulevard Saint-Pierre Ouest was to become NB325. However, there was some dissatisfaction with this in the municipality, as a NB3xx designation (vice a NB1xx designation) would result in less money for maintenance from the province.
The second paragraph of the first article, well... after I run it thru Google Translate:
13 kilometers long, the bypass is somehow missing the section of Highway 11. Although it connects North and South communities of the east coast of the province, she sectionnait the roundabout Bertrand, forcing motorists to navigate downtown Caraquet before taking the long road to Miramichi and Moncton.
Not terribly clear, but one possible takeaway is that NB11 is still on the old route, and not on the new bypass. I don't know, man.
Wikipedia:
The articles for New Brunswick Route 11 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Brunswick_Route_11), 145 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Brunswick_Route_145) & 325 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Brunswick_Route_325) were all recently edited by the same IP address. Not by a registered user, so sadly I can't contact the author for more info & clarification. NB145 is now listed as terminating at NB325 in Caraquet, and NB325 is listed (sans citation) as "extended continuing where the former Route 11 used to be." (It should be noted that the length of none of the affected highways has been updated to reflect these changes.)
It could well be that the author made some assumptions, based on incomplete info, that will turn out to be incorrect.
If in fact NB325 takes over *all* of the former NB11, as Wikipedia implies, this would make for the strange case of NB145:
Of the other 48 NB1xx Collector routes (blue background shield), 44 connect to the rest of the highway network via a 2-digit Arterial route (green background shield). The remaining four (NB104, 135, 161 & 170) connect via another blue NB1xx route. There are no other cases of a Collector only connecting via a NB200+ Local (black background shield) route; this would be completely unprecedented.
The second newspaper article above only explicitly mentions Boulevard Saint-Pierre Ouest becoming NB325. It's possible that Rue du Portage could become an extension of NB145, thereby allowing NB145 to connect to the rest of the highway network at a green Arterial route, NB11 proper. This seems to me the more sensible option.
The new bypass has a diamond interchange, which I presume gets a distance-based exit number, as with the other interchanges on NB11. I don't know what that number is at this time. Google labels the cross road as Leger St (I'd go with the French RueLeg in this case), but Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Brunswick_Route_11#Caraquet_Bypass) calls it Chemin Alexis.
I'll give this all some time and wait for the dust to settle.
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Still no OSM, shapefiles, or other free data I can use to get coords for the new route.
In the meantime, the 2017 municipal maps (http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/departments/dti/highways_roads/content/maps/municipal_2017.html) for Caraquet (http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/trans/pdf/MunicipalMaps-MunicipaliteCartes2017/Caraquet_2017.pdf) and Bertrand (http://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/trans/pdf/MunicipalMaps-MunicipaliteCartes2017/Bertrand_2017.pdf) show the east-west segment of old NB11 (Boulevard Saint-Pierre Ouest) as an extension of NB145. Which I always thought was the more sensible thing to do. Rue du Portage has no number shown. While it's shown as a Primary Local route, a quick look around a few other municipal maps shows that roads can be shown as primary local, or collector, without being part of any numbered system.
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Looks like I can see it in the Bing satellite imagery in the Potlatch editor in OSM. I'll add it as soon as I get home from work today.
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Okay, I just added the Caraquet bypass to OSM. Looking at the municipal map for Bertrand that you linked to above, it appears that the road at the interchange is indeed called Chemin Alexis. So Wikipedia is actually right on that (surprise, surprise...).
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Holy crap. That imagery is brand new. It wasn't there when I wrote my previous post. Thanks for adding it to OSM.
Edit: Committed to one of my branches. I'll be bundling it with some Western New York edits in an upcoming pull request.
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Holy crap. That imagery is brand new. It wasn't there when I wrote my previous post. Thanks for adding it to OSM.
You're welcome! Happy to help out. :) NB is sure building quite a few bypasses lately!
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/1106
Cannibalizing and reusing the previous post, because I'm evil.