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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #210 on: November 26, 2022, 09:02:03 am »
The map shows the new preview systems east of Nantes and around Bordeaux added since Mid of May.



General status for all (European) regions:

Number of systems active / ready for peer-review / in preview / in development / not yet drafted

IDF: 7 / - / - / - / -
COR: 1 / - / - / - / -
HDF: 2 / 4 / - / - / -
OCC: 1 / 14 / - / - / -
BFC: 1 / 7 / 1 / - / -
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NOR: 0 / 4 / 1 / 0 / 1
PAC: 0 / 6 / 1 / 0 / 1
GES: 1 / 7 / 2 / 0 / 2
CVL: 0 / 4 / 2 / 0 / 2
BRE: 0 / 2 / 2 / 0 / 2
ARA: 0 / 9 / 3 / 0 / 4
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PDL: 0 / 2 / 0 / 4 / -
NAQ: 0 / 4 / 0 / 8 / 1
===========================
FRA: 13 / 63 / 12 / 12 / 13 = 113 systems

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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #211 on: December 27, 2022, 01:58:06 am »
FRA-PDL is done. All coastal departements are covered by TM now.



General status for all (European) regions:

Number of systems active / ready for peer-review / in preview / in development / not yet drafted

IDF: 7 / - / - / - / -
COR: 1 / - / - / - / -
HDF: 3 / 3 / - / - / -
OCC: 1 / 14 / - / - / -
BFC: 1 / 7 / 1 / - / -
PDL: 0 / 5 / 1 / - / -
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PAC: 0 / 6 / 1 / 0 / 1
NOR: 0 / 4 / 1 / 0 / 1
GES: 1 / 7 / 2 / 0 / 2
CVL: 0 / 4 / 2 / 0 / 2
BRE: 0 / 2 / 2 / 0 / 2
ARA: 0 / 8 / 4 / 0 / 4
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NAQ: 0 / 6 / 0 / 6 / 1
===========================
FRA: 14 / 66 / 14 / 6 / 13 = 113 systems

The last overview(s) had some wrong figures. Fixed now.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2022, 02:11:29 am by michih »

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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #212 on: December 27, 2022, 06:12:10 am »
What are the 14 yellow systems that are preview, but not ready for review? That breakdown isn't elsewhere. I don't want to accidentally start reviewing one in the New Year before it's ready. Sure, there's Alsace and others, but some of the newer systems made I have travels in and want to review.

With Nord done, we have 2 old regions of the Hexagon done (Ile d'France and Nord-Pas de Calais). Alsace is my next aim to get a 3rd covered (Alsace).

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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #213 on: December 27, 2022, 11:01:09 am »
What are the 14 yellow systems that are preview, but not ready for review? That breakdown isn't elsewhere.

fraarad38 - Isère Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fraarad42 - Loire Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fraarad63 - Puy-de-Dôme Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fraarad69 - Rhône Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. border to Lyon to be checked when drafting fraaram69
frabfcm21 - Dijon Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. preliminary draft only
frabred29 - Finistère Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
frabred35 - Ille-et-Vilaine Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fracvld37 - Indre-et-Loire Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fracvld45 - Loiret Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fragesd54 - Meurthe-et-Moselle Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
fragesd57 - Moselle Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
franord76 - Seine-Maritime Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off
frapdlm44 - Nantes Métropole Routes Métropolitaines (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. preliminary draft only
frapacd83 - Var Routes Départementales (michih) reviewer: t.b.d. M routes to be split off

fraarad63 will be moved soon since fraaram63 - Clermont Auvergne Métropole Routes Métropolitaines - are signed and GSV is available throughout.

I don't want to accidentally start reviewing one in the New Year before it's ready. Sure, there's Alsace and others, but some of the newer systems made I have travels in and want to review.

I'm looking forward seeing the 66 chocolate systems being reviewed :)

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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #214 on: January 10, 2023, 12:42:40 pm »
Only three departements left - plus M road systems.



General status for all (European) regions:

Number of systems active / ready for peer-review / in preview / in development / not yet drafted

IDF: 7 / - / - / - / -
COR: 1 / - / - / - / -
HDF: 3 / 3 / - / - / -
OCC: 1 / 14 / - / - / -
BFC: 1 / 7 / 1 / - / -
PDL: 0 / 5 / 1 / - / -
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PAC: 0 / 6 / 1 / 0 / 1
NOR: 0 / 4 / 1 / 0 / 1
GES: 1 / 7 / 2 / 0 / 2
CVL: 0 / 4 / 2 / 0 / 2
BRE: 0 / 2 / 2 / 0 / 2
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NAQ: 0 / 9 / 0 / 3 / 1
ARA: 0 / 8 / 4 / 1 / 3
===========================
FRA: 14 / 69 / 14 / 4 / 12 = 113 systems

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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #215 on: January 21, 2023, 03:58:14 am »
Just a stats update - three five six additional systems are ready for a peer-review now.

General status for all (European) regions:

Number of systems active / ready for peer-review / in preview / in development / not yet drafted

IDF: 7 / - / - / - / -
COR: 1 / - / - / - / -
HDF: 3 / 3 / - / - / -
OCC: 1 / 14 / - / - / -
BFC: 1 / 8 / - / - / -
PDL: 0 / 5 / 1 / - / -
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GES: 1 / 9 / 1 / 0 / 1
PAC: 0 / 6 / 1 / 0 / 1
NOR: 0 / 4 / 1 / 0 / 1
ARA: 0 / 12 / 2 / 0 / 2
CVL: 0 / 4 / 2 / 0 / 2
BRE: 0 / 2 / 2 / 0 / 2
-------------------------------------------------
NAQ: 0 / 11 / 0 / 1 / 1
===========================
FRA: 14 / 78 / 10 / 1 / 10 = 113 systems

Edit: Nancy is also chocolate (M+D).
Edit2: Dijon is also chocolate (M).
Edit3: Haute-Vienne (D) + Saint-Étienne are also chocolate (M+D).
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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #216 on: January 27, 2023, 05:20:47 pm »
Only one department (and 9 metropoles) left to go!

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Re: Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #217 on: January 28, 2023, 02:04:33 am »
Yep, second to last departement is done :)

11 metropoles remain though but only Saint-Étienne is signed so far (not fully covered by recent GSV but OSM seems to be fine). I need to check Metz again but I did not spot any single sign on a quick GSV check earlier this year. Nantes needs to be checked with updated GSV.

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=>   1. PLOT:        FRANAQD23: Creuse
=>   2. SPLIT OFF:   FRAARAM42: Saint-Étienne Métropole                      many signs on 2022 GSV and OSM
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-||  3. FINAL CHECK: FRAPDLM44: Nantes                                       preliminary draft only -> 2023+ GSV check required
-||  4. SPLIT OFF:   FRAGESM57: Metz Métropole                               no signs on 2022 GSV, start on OSM since 2020
-||  5. PLOT:        FRAARAM69: Lyon                                         no signs on 2022 GSV except of M6/M7, nothing on OSM, boundaries vague
-||  6. SPLIT OFF:   FRAARAM38: Grenoble-Alpes Métropole                     *not yet on GSV nor OSM*
-||  7. SPLIT OFF:   FRANORM76: Métropole Rouen Normandie                    *not yet on GSV nor OSM*
-||  8. SPLIT OFF:   FRAPACM83: Toulon                                       *not yet on GSV nor OSM*
-||  9. SPLIT OFF:   FRABREM29: Brest                                        *not yet on GSV nor OSM*
-|| 10. SPLIT OFF:   FRABREM35: Rennes                                       *not yet on GSV nor OSM*
-|| 11. SPLIT OFF:   FRACVLM45: Orléans                                      *not yet on GSV nor OSM*
-|| 12. SPLIT OFF:   FRACVLM37: Tours                                        *not yet on GSV nor OSM*
-|| 13. PLOT:        FRANAQM33: Bordeaux Métropole                           *not yet on GSV nor OSM, boundaries signed*

Edit: Checked Metz now
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Re: Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #218 on: January 28, 2023, 05:35:20 am »
I excluded Nantes as its in preview, and Saint Etienne as I misread my map.

Still 12 to go, and most of them is only because you are waiting for them to be signed...

Though, of course, there's the next round of whack-a-mole with France splitting off systems because responsibility changes to await signage for.  :pan:

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Re: Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #219 on: January 28, 2023, 05:57:04 am »
Still 12 to go, and most of them is only because you are waiting for them to be signed...

I need to wait because they are not signed. D routes are often not signed in cities, OSM and GM indicate different routings. In addition, I've learned from Nancy that it is possible that routes which were signed with yellow D route signs are downgraded to city streets. M route signs only appeared outside of the city on those roads.

Though, of course, there's the next round of whack-a-mole with France splitting off systems because responsibility changes to await signage for.  :pan:

I was also pissed but the change is not that big. I'm happy that we have the D route systems now. I would have been disappointed if fraa and fran mileage had been lost for good. It's just a transfer to the next tier system now. Nothing that holds us back from reviewing and activating the systems.

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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #220 on: February 05, 2023, 07:21:54 am »
All French D road systems in Europe are minimum in preview now. All signed French M systems too.
14 D/M road systems are active.
80 D/M road systems are ready for peer-review.
10 M road systems* are still to be drafted once they will be signed. No date known, all in limbo.
9 D road systems** are in preview but not yet ready for peer-review since M road systems still need to be split off once they will be signed.

*Metz, Lyon, Grenoble-Alpes, Rouen Normandie, Toulon, Brest, Rennes, Orléans, Tours, Bordeaux
**franaqd33 Gironde is ready for peer-review since the boundaries to Bordeaux are clearly signed



General status for all (European) regions:

Number of systems active / ready for peer-review / in preview / in development / not yet drafted

IDF: 7 / - / - / - / -
COR: 1 / - / - / - / -
HDF: 3 / 3 / - / - / -
OCC: 1 / 14 / - / - / -
BFC: 1 / 8 / - / - / -
PDL: 0 / 6 / - / - / -
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NAQ: 0 / 12 / 0 / 0 / 1
GES: 1 / 9 / 1 / 0 / 1
PAC: 0 / 6 / 1 / 0 / 1
NOR: 0 / 4 / 1 / 0 / 1
ARA: 0 / 12 / 2 / 0 / 2
CVL: 0 / 4 / 2 / 0 / 2
BRE: 0 / 2 / 2 / 0 / 2
===========================
FRA: 14 / 80 / 9 / 0 / 10 = 113 systems

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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #221 on: February 06, 2023, 01:42:44 pm »
The preliminary final map of the French regions in Europe:


39,543 out of 92,513 routes in active + preview systems (42.7%) are in France.
Thereof 39,120 in Europe (see map), 215 in North America, 126 in Africa, 42 in Oceania,  and 40 routes in South America.

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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #222 on: February 06, 2023, 01:59:17 pm »
Congratulations on getting that done!
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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #223 on: February 06, 2023, 02:03:27 pm »
Thanks! I started drafting in Mid 2019. 3.5 years.... The next mission is getting the systems active.

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Re: frad/fram: France Routes Départementales / Routes Métropolitaines
« Reply #224 on: February 06, 2023, 09:04:15 pm »
The preliminary final map of the French regions in Europe:

Wow, that's an impressive accomplishment!