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Re: fragesdXX: Grand-Est Routes Départementales
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2022, 03:51:22 pm »
fragesd6ae - Collectivité européenne d'Alsace Routes Départementales
fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines

6AE is confirmed being the official code: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:FR

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Eurometropole de Strasbourg Routes Metropolitans
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2022, 10:57:05 am »
M31, M35, M37, M41, M45, M61, M63, M64, M83, M84 - fine

M93 - End -> RueMou_W

M111, M118 - fine

M120 - eastern end seems odd, so short from the main road (ex-N68). Not saying its wrong, saying its strange. (There's other odd ends, but this seemed the strangest). Double check where roads peter out in the city

M161, M165, M174, M184, M185, M194, M215, M221, M222, M223 - fine

M225 - D30 -> M30? (and add route, splitting D30) or is this D30 running for a stretch inside the Metropole?

M226 - add point in the middle of Eckwersheim to help distinguish where the route is

M263 - metropolitan boundary slightly south of A4. Acceptable fudge, though boundary runs along road and OSM has that bit as D263. Check

M284, M301, M302, M345 - fine

M351 - the transition point to D1004 is further west, between the M228 and A355 junctions (you have the wrong boundary)

M353, M384, M392, M400, M445, M451, M468, M468Hon, M484, M545, M563, M622, M718, M745, M863, M884, M885, M963, M2350 - fine
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Re: fragesdXX: Grand-Est Routes Départementales
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2022, 02:14:09 pm »
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6082

M93 - End -> RueMou_W

I think that the road (temporarily) ended here due to the motorway construction. M93 extends to Ernolsheim now according to September 2022 GSV, also confirmed by OSM + GM. Thus, I've extended D93 and M93.

M120 - eastern end seems odd, so short from the main road (ex-N68). Not saying its wrong, saying its strange. (There's other odd ends, but this seemed the strangest). Double check where roads peter out in the city

Either shp files (I try to download them from noreaster right now but it's damn slow) or GSV. I remember that GSV was partially older when I drafted the system than M route signs appeared in the field. It seems that parts of Strasbourg are covered by Sommer 2022 GSV now. I'll have a deeper look into it when I have the shp files.

M225 - D30 -> M30? (and add route, splitting D30) or is this D30 running for a stretch inside the Metropole?

M225 intersects D30 according to September 2021 GSV.

M263 - metropolitan boundary slightly south of A4. Acceptable fudge, though boundary runs along road and OSM has that bit as D263. Check

Also later...

M351 - the transition point to D1004 is further west, between the M228 and A355 junctions (you have the wrong boundary)

Dunno, I think it's as it is because the motorway (former A351) ended here. Changed now.

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Re: fragesdXX: Grand-Est Routes Départementales
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2022, 10:34:18 am »
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6088

M120 - eastern end seems odd, so short from the main road (ex-N68). Not saying its wrong, saying its strange. (There's other odd ends, but this seemed the strangest). Double check where roads peter out in the city
M263 - metropolitan boundary slightly south of A4. Acceptable fudge, though boundary runs along road and OSM has that bit as D263. Check

Short answer: shp files coords.

Long answer for specific routes:
I've checked M223, M63, M185, M31 (very tiny adjustment to meet shp file coords), M120 (tiny adjustment), M468 (kept as-is because the shp end is not exatly where we put wps but in the junction, 0.02mi away), M263 (kept as-is to keep graph connection with M468, route is 0.13mi longer than in shp file), M392 (tiny adjustment), M41 (kept as-is although shp file end is 0.03mi beyond the junction) and M745.

M2350 is odd though. There is no 2020 shp file because A350 was downgraded to N2350 in 2015, the eastern segment of the now-N2350 to whatever in 2016, and the western segment to M2350 in 2021. OSM indicates "M2350" on the western segment only, GM "N2350" on both, wikisara only indicates "M2350" for the segment downgraded in 2021. September 2022 GSV still indicates "N2350" on M35 (still signed as A35), and even "A350" on the next direction sign. The km0 post indicates A350 too. No numbers beyond exit 2 on summer 2022 GSV.
I've now truncated M2350 from Avenue Herrenschmidt to exit 2 as indicated on OSM + wikisara + GSV with "old numbers".



https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/blob/master/hwy_data/FRA-GES/fragesd/README.md
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`M353` west end between `M35`/`M400` interchange and `M84` could be `M401` (shp files + renumbering map) but OSM indicates it being `M353` all the way which makes pretty much sense, no updated numbering visible on 2020 GSV -> to be checked before activation

Done now. M353 is signed on August 2022 GSV (and October 2020 too). Keep as-is, readme line removed.

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`M445` south end (south of railway) on OSM differs to shp files, shp route is permanently closed according to 2008 + 2019 + 2022 GSV, drafted according to OSM

Confirmed by 2022 GSV. No sign at M392. Kept as-as.

3 point out of 119 shp file points for better understanding (first, last and where diverting):
Code: [Select]
F http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.580471&lon=7.687005
D http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.563141&lon=7.689964
L http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.558717&lon=7.687300

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- `M763` is only a short one-way street of `M63`, not drafted

OSM indicates M345 for the segment between "D" and "L" but there is really a M345 far away. Keep everything as-is.

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Re: fragesdXX: Grand-Est Routes Départementales
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2022, 03:53:16 pm »
Further comments on fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines before activation?

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Re: fragesdXX: Grand-Est Routes Départementales
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2022, 04:51:05 pm »
Nothing more to say.

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Re: fragesdXX: Grand-Est Routes Départementales
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2022, 01:42:40 pm »
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