usaush: United States Historic US Routes

[mapcat]

Eric suggested that it wasn't signed particularly well, and I failed to find signs at either end when I did a quick check in GMSV, so I wasn't able to see how close to specs the "enthusiast's" signs were.

[yakra]

MO US66HisFlo:
Suggest centering waypoints along the  centerline of Dunn Rd. Even if it breaks intersecting/concurrent routes, it less confusingly & more accurately tracks where the route goes; more important IMO. There's even a false-positive multiplex from I-270(27) to I-270(28).

[yakra]

Well here's something: http://www.historicus20.com/historic-route-signage.html
As far as I can tell from the pics there is an extant US20His in Marlborough and Becket, MA (although I have no idea of the routings).

and Weston, MA, New Lebanon, NY, North East, PA, Sandhills, NE...

Sadly the Ostriches haven't roamed those parts for a long time, so route discernment is difficult (the Becket, MA is a tiny former alignment segment where the turnpike diverted it - called Morse Rd).

I don't see any references in the link at the quote, including at web.archive.org.
No historic route signage in GMSV either, including historic imagery.
On NE US20HisCra NWhiLakeRd AirRd_W, sattelite imagery shows badly deteriorated pavement, returning to nature. There's no GMSV coverage, and while I have no reason to suspect the road isn't open to traffic, I doubt this is the kind of road anyone would want to put historic route signs on for the tourists.

Barring anything really revelatory, I'll probably delete both Nebraska usaush routes soon.

[si404]

There's definitely non-fake signs in Gordon. The article refers to Rushville, which also has at least one sign (screenshot of similar article from the same local paper preserved on the the Historic US20 website). GMSV is 2012, so doesn't show these more recent additions. I might have put the ends a waypoint too far, but there is decent evidence that Historic US20 is signed along US20 at these two towns.

I'm fine with routes, especially US20 ones, being removed if there's no evidence of them.

IIRC, the Historic US20 site used to have a map with cities with signs marked on it (hence Sandhills, NE, etc). These signs could have just been someone putting it up on their wall, rather than being used on the road.

[yakra]

OK, Gordon/Rushville is good enough for me. I'm not too fussed about trying to pin down more exact endpoints.
Deleting the Crawford segment, but I'll leave the unprocessed wpt, in case we find in the future that it should come back.
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/2934

[Bickendan]

OR Hist US 99 does not have any field signage.
I will be emailing ODOT about this amongst other related matters.

[si404]

OR Hist US 99 does not have any field signage.

OK, it must have used to have had, as I didn't add it willy nilly and there's not some guy with a shield that goes and erects it, takes a photo and then takes it down - unlike US20!

There's no harm in removing it as its entirely concurrent with OR99

[Bickendan]

The annoying thing is outside of the shields on the exit signs for I-5, OR 99 is not signed at all on the surface streets for Canyonville, Tri City-Myrtle Beach, or Yoncalla-Drain. Luckily the routings are easy to follow.

[mapcat]

Found one along US 20 in Sturbridge, Mass.

[yakra]

Having these when concurrent with the present-day mainline never made much sense to me, or seemed very important. (Signed by That One Guy?) I may give GMSV a closer look, but it's a low priority.
Did you say you also saw one west of Springfield? Is that the one already in the HB?

[mapcat]

Having these when concurrent with the present-day mainline never made much sense to me, or seemed very important. (Signed by That One Guy?) I may give GMSV a closer look, but it's a low priority.
Did you say you also saw one west of Springfield? Is that the one already in the HB?

Right, that one I mentioned the other night was the one that's already in the HB. Barely signed, but signed.

[Bickendan]

US30 Columbia River Gorge doesn't end at Exit 35, but extends through Dodson and Warrendale, reentering the freeway at Exit 37.

There's an additional US30 Hist segment between Cascade Locks and Hood River, according to signage I spotted from the freeway on the old route. Looks like it's from Exit 44 to 51, taking Frontage Road and Wyeth Rd. It's entirely possible that US 30 proper through Cascade Locks is included.

No changes needed to the Rowena Crest segment.

[mapcat]

Historic US 101 in San Diego ends at Harbor Dr (I-5 exit 54C) rather than at CA 76 (exit 54A).

[CharlotteAllisonCDTG]

I don't see any Historic US 101 signage on Harbor Drive.

[mapcat]

It's not on Harbor Dr. It's on Coast Hwy.