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Duke87:
So, almost all of route 399 is county, but the westernmost 0.32 miles consisting of the northern approach to Bob Sikes Bridge from US 98 are FDOT-maintained and... as of just last month, there is at least one FL 399 shield posted in the field.

This should be added to the HB as a signed state route.

formulanone:
From the FDOT straight-line diagram:

rickmastfan67:

--- Quote from: Duke87 on January 12, 2022, 09:55:44 pm ---So, almost all of route 399 is county, but the westernmost 0.32 miles consisting of the northern approach to Bob Sikes Bridge from US 98 are FDOT-maintained and... as of just last month, there is at least one FL 399 shield posted in the field.

This should be added to the HB as a signed state route.

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Please see this post as to why I didn't have it in the first place, and still think this is the best plan of action since those begin/end state maintenance signs are completely inside of the interchange.

Thus, it's clearly a 1 PPI situation here sadly, thus doesn't qualify for the site, even though there is some limited signage.  Had this been a 'proper' intersection and not an interchange, or it at least extended to the first intersection beyond the interchange, this could be a completely different story.

Duke87:

--- Quote from: rickmastfan67 on January 13, 2022, 01:38:47 am ---or it at least extended to the first intersection beyond the interchange
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I mean it... basically does. The pavement change is less than 200 feet from the median break for the first intersection.

At any rate, I don't think it is appropriate application of the 1PPI policy to send an otherwise signed route into oblivion by rounding its length down to zero, and indeed there is precedent elsewhere for including signed routes that exist entirely or almost entirely within an interchange footprint. See for example TX Spr97. Furthermore it doesn't sit right with me to see a route which officially exists and is signed excluded - a user who has clinched FL 399 should be able to claim the clinch.

Anyone else care to weigh in here?

yakra:

--- Quote from: Duke87 on January 13, 2022, 02:32:28 am ---I don't think it is appropriate application of the 1PPI policy to send an otherwise signed route into oblivion by rounding its length down to zero, and indeed there is precedent elsewhere for including signed routes that exist entirely or almost entirely within an interchange footprint. See for example TX Spr97. Furthermore it doesn't sit right with me to see a route which officially exists and is signed excluded

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Agree. LOL, I opened up TXSpr97 in the HB before even reading your post! :D

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