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FRA-GES/FRA-OCC: A4 + A750 exit renumbering
« on: September 16, 2021, 11:54:35 am »
Exit numbers will be renumbered in October: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/490597/post-175195281

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Re: FRA-GES/FRA-OCC: A4 + A750 exit renumbering
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2021, 03:35:50 am »
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/5326

A4 has 16 travelers:


Some A4 (and concurrent E50) labels to be renumbered are labels in use. I generally kept them as alt labels and added "a" suffix to the new label. E.g. renumbered exit 45 got alt label 46 and exit 46 is now called 46a:

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46 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.769230&lon=7.597389
+X64 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.769679&lon=7.639720
47 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.748402&lon=7.684092

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45 +46 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.769230&lon=7.597389
+X64 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.769679&lon=7.639720
46a http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.748402&lon=7.684092

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Re: FRA-GES/FRA-OCC: A4 + A750 exit renumbering
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2021, 08:39:16 am »
Here's the in use labels that have changed, but left as alts, meaning an 'a' down the line that shouldn't really be there.

A4:
  • 40 -> 38
  • 42 -> 41
  • 44 -> 43
  • 46 -> 45
E50:
  • 27(A4) -> 24(A4)
  • 35(A4) -> 33(A4)


PS: going and changing my .list file, my reference to E50 27(A4) was made an alt label, but my A4 27 wasn't - you did give me extra travels despite the effort to not do that.

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Re: FRA-GES/FRA-OCC: A4 + A750 exit renumbering
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2021, 08:52:52 am »
PS: going and changing my .list file, my reference to E50 27(A4) was made an alt label, but my A4 27 wasn't - you did give me extra travels despite the effort to not do that.

I don't get how it happened. It is not possible to rename a label in use with the standard functions of the wpt editor. Had I loaded the wrong "labels in use"? Fixed: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/5327

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Re: FRA-GES/FRA-OCC: A4 + A750 exit renumbering
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2021, 09:01:37 am »
This reminds me of when I tried to keep labels on I-95 in PA when I should not have about a month after I started maintaining PA.  (https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=2321.msg12291#msg12291)

SOP in this situation in my understanding would be to include an updates entry due to the renumbered exits instead of doing the XXa label to preserve in-use labels.  I know we just had a disagreement with how I handled the I-90/I-94 IL exit reorganizing update by Highway63, but this is exactly why we saw updates entries from yakra when he did the MA renumbering (https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=7.0).

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Re: FRA-GES/FRA-OCC: A4 + A750 exit renumbering
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2021, 09:10:26 am »
I've experienced that many users don't update their list files. Just going with an update entry would credit users for sections they didn't travel. And I tried to avoid updated entries like we discussed for I-90/I-94 the other day.

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Re: FRA-GES/FRA-OCC: A4 + A750 exit renumbering
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2021, 09:10:48 am »
Unless someone else is using A4 27 (I'm not now), that's not fixed, but the opposite. There, ideally, shouldn't be 'a' suffixes where such things don't belong.

Plus there's this:
SOP in this situation in my understanding would be to include an updates entry due to the renumbered exits instead of doing the XXa label to preserve in-use labels.
which is what I thought too.

This is why I listed the points where people ought to tweak their list entry to have the new label, and then did it on my own .list.