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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #150 on: May 01, 2024, 06:36:06 pm »
Not exactly trying to drop a new bomb in here, but what about adding the 49-mile drive in SF? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/49-Mile_Scenic_Drive

This is exactly the type of thing I absolutely do not want this system to scope creep into including. Random insignificant local nonsense that happens to have some signs, as opposed to the major multi-state spanning stuff like Great River Road that was the impetus for the system's creation.

I think San Franciscans might have some quibbles with your assertion that anything in The City is insignificant. :)

Insignificant might have been a somewhat controversial word choice.

I assumed this system to be "National" tourist routes which would be definition exclude state or local scenic/routes. My home state of Ohio has quite a few "scenic byways" that do not cross state lines. They don't belong is this system either. Admittedly, most are part of the existing state route system, but any portions that are not should be omitted.

There could be additional national routes worth including, but if the base criteria are that the route must be signed and exist in multiple states, that should limit the system to a reasonable scope.

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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #151 on: May 01, 2024, 10:23:35 pm »
I found another signed spur of the GRR in Atlas, IL. It is signed west along U.S. 54 toward "Pike Station River Access." This implies that the spur continues at least as far as 256th Street and maybe to Ralphs Landing Road or the Two Rivers Marina, but there are no signs in Pike Station or anywhere off IL 96 as far as I can tell.

I suspect there are more of these poorly but unambiguously signed spurs scattered all along the Illinois portion of the GRR in equally unlikely places, but I don't have time to look around for more tonight. I have only driven the stretch of the GRR from I-72 south to Mozier, so I can only safely say that there are not any additional spurs on that stretch beyond the three I have mentioned.

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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #152 on: May 03, 2024, 08:46:50 am »
Sorry, forgot to switch usatr back to preview in the site update I ran earlier this morning.  It will be back in preview on the next site update.

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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #153 on: May 05, 2024, 05:32:10 pm »
I made some point revisions for the Irwin section of the Lincoln Highway to clarify that it uses Old Trail Rd instead of Center Hwy (the parts that goes back south to US 30) west of Downtown Irwin.

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7382


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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #154 on: May 06, 2024, 12:48:17 am »
Would a National Forest Scenic Byway be eligible for this? One that I think would be worth adding is the Mountain Loop Highway in Washington, which does have a few custom signs posted like so:


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« Reply #155 on: May 06, 2024, 01:23:23 am »
Would a National Forest Scenic Byway be eligible for this? One that I think would be worth adding is the Mountain Loop Highway in Washington, which does have a few custom signs posted like so:
That would probably fit in usanp, which has routes in other NFs.

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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #156 on: May 06, 2024, 10:00:26 pm »
Going in from Highway63 with tonight's site update (assuming I got it all sorted into the right places): Jefferson Highway in Iowa.

https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/commit/2ff33e9208460d461e79418cec53e755b83f39f8

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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #157 on: May 07, 2024, 06:34:52 am »
I think that the Lewis and Clark Trail in Pierre now has a broken concurrency resulting from the new points on US 14 TRUCK/US 83 TRUCK/SD 34.

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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #158 on: May 09, 2024, 05:12:17 pm »
The Ohio portion of the Ohio River Scenic Byway is not showing up on mapview or in the highway browser (though I can see it's in the correct place on GitHub).

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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #159 on: May 09, 2024, 07:33:27 pm »
The Ohio portion of the Ohio River Scenic Byway is not showing up on mapview or in the highway browser (though I can see it's in the correct place on GitHub).
Its not signed properly - using the Ohio Scenic Byway generic shield that they began phasing out recently (too recently for the Streetview car), rather than a route specific shield.

But when they do transition the signs, the route is there waiting.

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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #160 on: May 10, 2024, 02:47:48 pm »
The Ohio portion of the Ohio River Scenic Byway is not showing up on mapview or in the highway browser (though I can see it's in the correct place on GitHub).
Its not signed properly - using the Ohio Scenic Byway generic shield that they began phasing out recently (too recently for the Streetview car), rather than a route specific shield.

But when they do transition the signs, the route is there waiting.

There aren't many but they do exist.
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« Reply #161 on: May 12, 2024, 01:36:45 pm »
I found another signed spur of the GRR in Atlas, IL. It is signed west along U.S. 54 toward "Pike Station River Access." This implies that the spur continues at least as far as 256th Street and maybe to Ralphs Landing Road or the Two Rivers Marina, but there are no signs in Pike Station or anywhere off IL 96 as far as I can tell.

I suspect there are more of these poorly but unambiguously signed spurs scattered all along the Illinois portion of the GRR in equally unlikely places, but I don't have time to look around for more tonight. I have only driven the stretch of the GRR from I-72 south to Mozier, so I can only safely say that there are not any additional spurs on that stretch beyond the three I have mentioned.
There's an incredibly short one to Riley Creek Rest Area, one along State Forest Road, Wolf Creek, and one heading into St Louis from the North along IL3

The only one signed with more than a sign at the diverge (that I've found) is the 'Free Ferry' one in Kampsville where there's supposed to be something the other side of the river, but there's not (in part because there's the Illinois River Road taking up sign space - see also other stuff being signed where there's supposed to be a GRR spur which isn't signed as it's not as important as the other scenic byway/trail/whatever).

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« Reply #162 on: May 14, 2024, 07:24:43 pm »
The data check list found some duplicate filenames in Iowa Lincoln Highway: 3rdSt_E, CRE41_W, CRE41_E. They could be my fault from my additions that were incorporated.

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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #163 on: May 14, 2024, 08:49:43 pm »
I could use a point at BufAve on NY SeaTrl, but I think I am fine with just using NY384_E as it is basically a sight clinch to there anyway.

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Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Reply #164 on: May 17, 2024, 01:10:49 am »
I found another signed spur of the GRR in Atlas, IL. It is signed west along U.S. 54 toward "Pike Station River Access." This implies that the spur continues at least as far as 256th Street and maybe to Ralphs Landing Road or the Two Rivers Marina, but there are no signs in Pike Station or anywhere off IL 96 as far as I can tell.

I suspect there are more of these poorly but unambiguously signed spurs scattered all along the Illinois portion of the GRR in equally unlikely places, but I don't have time to look around for more tonight. I have only driven the stretch of the GRR from I-72 south to Mozier, so I can only safely say that there are not any additional spurs on that stretch beyond the three I have mentioned.
There's an incredibly short one to Riley Creek Rest Area, one along State Forest Road, Wolf Creek, and one heading into St Louis from the North along IL3

The only one signed with more than a sign at the diverge (that I've found) is the 'Free Ferry' one in Kampsville where there's supposed to be something the other side of the river, but there's not (in part because there's the Illinois River Road taking up sign space - see also other stuff being signed where there's supposed to be a GRR spur which isn't signed as it's not as important as the other scenic byway/trail/whatever).

I found another spur to the Randolph County Courthouse in Chester: start and end