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Offline yakra

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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1050 on: September 27, 2024, 09:17:09 am »
October 2022
Re-clinched the Tappan Zee (even if I de-clinched it wrong & it never showed in my stats) & Wittpenn bridges.
Patched that annoying gap in I-87 between exit 2 & entrance 2 NB. LOL 1PPI anyone?
Newly traveled: NJ4, NJ15
Met up with Jim at Siena College!
Newly traveled AND clinched: NH NH202A
Ticked up 0.01% on overall mileage, both active & a+p. Yeeeee-haw!
  > 50% of NY interstates
  > 30% of usanh
  usai > 1/6 done

2024-07-24
Clinched: ME ME137BusWat
New mileage on 6 other ME routes, including filling in gaps on 126, 137, 137Bus & 139. More travels with fewer .list lines is always nice.

September 2024
Picked up a Dell PowerEdge R620 in Manhattan. This baby oughtta generate graphs like nobody's business.
Confirmed new milepost exit numbers on CT8 & 25.
Filled in gaps on: CT2, NH111
Newly traveled: CT22*, CT34, CT127, CT111, MA57*, NH119, MA119**, NH101A, NH88*
*via a short overlap with another route I spent more time on
**had previously driven a short bit in Pepperell, but not enough to .list one segment.

Clinched: CT17, NY I-287, CT8, NH111
Both: MA63, MA66, MA US20HisHun (1st usaush & 1st preview mileage), NH130
Yee-Ha: Up 0.02% active & 0.01% a+p mileage.
  > 30% of CT
  > 25% of MA
First few entries on yakra.rlist

Either way, I really like this "employer-sponsored clinching" thing.
A clinch of ME124 followed by the southern 31% of ME140.
A clinch of ME183 by necessity, with a quick side trip to clinch ME185 on the way back.
My original section of ME156, W of US2.
A clinch of ME188, with some of 155 to get there.
I had to interview hikers (and boaters on that last one) about their impressions of the visual impact of proposed wind power developments on otherwise fairly natural-looking viewsheds.
All after myself hiking to some grawlixin' beautiful locations. A pretty good gig overall, except that...
Be careful if you hike Mount Blue. Stay hydrated & don't let your electrolytes get out of whack; hyponatremia is no joke. Don't wanna end up vomiting in every municipality between Weld & Portland, beside every route number classification. Thankfully a coworker was along for that trip, and we'd decided to carpool, him driving.

Took I-190 and re-clinched a piece of NY 324 around exit 20, since I drove it EB and TM only recognizes the WB direction here.
Say whaaat? Hey now, that simply ain't so! :D
It's a fallacy to assume TM only represents exactly what's directly underneath the polyline.
If that were the case, no real segments of any interstate would be represented at all, as there's no roadway directly under the centerline in the median when we split the difference between carriageways.
This isn't wrong, indicating some fictitious path half a km away from the highway. It's just an approximation of the true path of I-295, somewhere off to the side within tolerance.
The polyline is understood to not be precise, not be gospel; it merely represents a connection between 2 adjacent points, however it is this connection may be made by real roads in the real world. In either direction.
We split the difference between carriageways of freeways. Between both directions of at-grade expressways or boulevards or other dual-carriageway routes.
And similarly, between both directions when couplets of surface streets are involved (with the occasional exception of course).
It's pretty obvious what's going on here. Or here. Or here.
Here's a more blatantly wacky example. It should still be pretty apparent what's going on though.

Taking this "cut from one end of the couplet to the other" approach, looks can sometimes be deceiving...
Eastbound ME22 follows Congress & Saint John. The polyline in the HB looks like it "only" follows the WB alignment, perfectly overlaying Park Ave, but really, it does the same thing as NY12, cutting straight across from one end of the couplet to the other. Only in this example, the couplet is more lopsided. One half is way off to the side like I-295 in Topsham, while the other half coincidentally falls right under the polyline.

Just as either NY12 N or S will get you TM's fictitious diagonal, as either direction works up here, "NY NY324 I-190(20A) LongRd" is just as valid a clinch as "ME I-295 I-295 StJohnSt". :)
Both directions pass through the points at either end, after all.
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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1051 on: September 28, 2024, 11:20:14 am »
Out in Minnesota for a handful of days.  Yesterday represented the best opportunity to do any sort of clinching, as it dovetailed into my ultimate plan to shoot video of the completed 4-lane corridor on US 14 between New Ulm and Rochester.  I clinched MN 74 and the obscure MN 167 (a former MN 67 routing), reclinched MN 56, and filled in gaps on US 14, MN 4, MN 30, and MN 67.
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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1052 on: October 01, 2024, 06:41:45 am »
Recently returned from a 9 day trip to NC then Chicagoland...

New clinches in order: US 25E (TN, KY), US 27 (OH), US 6 Bus Gary, IN 152, US 33 (IN, OH), I-270 (OH)

New mileage: US 74 (NC), US 321 (TN), I-75 (KY, OH), US 27 (IN), US 35 (IN), IN 38, IN 1, US 20 (IN), I-65 (IN), IN 912, US 12 (IN), IN 49, I-94 (IN), IL 394, I-294, IL 50, I-55 (IL), IL 53, US 30 (IL, IN), US 41 (IN, IL), I-290, IL 43, IL 171, IL 19, US 14 (IL), IL 58

National Clinches: US 25E, US 33 (minus the short relocation in WV), would've had US 35 but Indiana loves to completely close highways for construction (they did this to me with US 224 a while back, too).

Picked up 14 new counties - KY (3), OH (3), IN (8 )

I'm skeptical that US 6 Bus in Gary actually exists. 
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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1053 on: October 01, 2024, 08:59:43 am »
I chose US 12 over US 6 for my Michigan City Trip because of an Indiana construction closure.  (hence why my US 6 line stops in Ohio at US 23)

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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1054 on: October 01, 2024, 09:46:13 am »
I'm skeptical that US 6 Bus in Gary actually exists.

Saw signage for it at IN 53 back in May (here).
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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1055 on: October 01, 2024, 12:16:15 pm »
would've had US 35 but Indiana loves to completely close highways for construction (they did this to me with US 224 a while back, too).

Many Midwestern states do this.

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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1056 on: October 01, 2024, 06:35:10 pm »
would've had US 35 but Indiana loves to completely close highways for construction (they did this to me with US 224 a while back, too).

Many Midwestern states do this.

My hat is off to Mapcat then for being able to finish multiple highway systems in the Midwest.


US 6 Bus is only posted at IN 53, IN 55, and I-65 (basically posted in just Gary). Not posted at either end and there’s no mile markers or bridge reference markers.

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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1057 on: October 01, 2024, 06:49:11 pm »
US 6 Bus is only posted at IN 53, IN 55, and I-65 (basically posted in just Gary). Not posted at either end and there’s no mile markers or bridge reference markers.

US 20 Bus in South Bend has a similar issue in only being posted in South Bend itself (and mainly east of downtown).  I had to use Travel Mapping to make sure I clinched it correctly.

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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1058 on: October 01, 2024, 07:01:18 pm »
US 6 Bus is only posted at IN 53, IN 55, and I-65 (basically posted in just Gary). Not posted at either end and there’s no mile markers or bridge reference markers.

Few if any of the business routes in the state are INDOT maintained. Most of them are poorly signed.
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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1059 on: October 01, 2024, 07:51:08 pm »
I just came back from a < two-week road trip, mainly to Montana.

Route clinches (all short): IL 176, IL 390, ND 21, SD 168, US 93 Alt (Kalispell MT), MT 40, MT 56, MT 135, SR (MT)s 427, 474, 482, and 548.

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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1060 on: October 01, 2024, 08:01:08 pm »
^ Presuming you rolled back via Minnesota, we'd have been in the state at the same time.  I just flew back from Minneapolis today.

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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1061 on: October 01, 2024, 11:55:06 pm »
^ Presuming you rolled back via Minnesota, we'd have been in the state at the same time.  I just flew back from Minneapolis today.
Heck, Mapmikey was within 20 miles of Mapcat & myself.

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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1062 on: October 13, 2024, 02:42:05 pm »
Took a 17 hr ride yesterday…

New clinches in order:
PA 643, PA 31, PA 523

New mileage:
PA 136, PA 18, PA 168, US 30 (OH), US 62 (OH), US 250 (OH), OH 151, OH 212, OH 164, OH 332, PA 51, PA 281

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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1063 on: October 14, 2024, 03:40:39 pm »
Yesterday I got back from a three day clinching trip to clean up my New England mileage.  Friday featured a clinch of the north end of US 5 (finishing the route), some new mileage on US 302 and US 3, and cleaning up my US 2 mileage around Bethel.  Saturday had an incidental clinch of NH 115 before filling in the big gap in my US 3 mileage before heading back north so I could finish clinching US 302 to Portland, along with a clinch of ME 77 (I also grabbed pieces of ME 22 and ME 9 in Portland to clean that up, which may have been a mistake given how early everything closes there; it also didn't occur to me until too late that I could have cut that short and hopped on I-295 after getting ME 22 east of there and the signed but "might not actually be part of the route" north end of ME 77 to ME 100).  Sunday unified my main and Maine clinches of US 1 along with the eastern end of US 4 (finishing the route), main Spaulding Turnpike section of NH 16, bypass US 1 (and US 1A in York), the eastern end of NH 101 (finishing the route), and incidental mileage of NH/MA 1A and MA 110, tidying up some stuff from the Newburyport meet.

Along the way this was met with horrible traffic Saturday, especially on I-93 at exit 32 and the lane drop in Franconia Notch, and being stuck for miles behind slowpokes on US 302, which delayed me by a fair amount getting to Portland.  Sunday had trouble spots too (especially getting on the MassPike), but fortunately Google Maps correctly factored them into the drive time.
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Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Reply #1064 on: October 14, 2024, 07:01:48 pm »
I also grabbed pieces of ME 22 and ME 9 in Portland to clean that up, which may have been a mistake given how early everything closes there
Ja get caught in rush hour traffic? If you were looking for a place to eat and didn't see much, you gotta get a little off the (roadgeekly) beaten path and head in town around Congress St or the Old Port, Fore St area-ish. There's also The Great Lost Bear on Forest Ave (US302), where mapcat & I met up a few years back.

the signed but "might not actually be part of the route" north end of ME 77 to ME 100
Wait... OK I see what you mean. That's just a missing TO. There's an END sign northbound.
WRT ME77, the City of Portland has plans to covert State & High streets to 2-way traffic. I am not happy about this.

Looks like you're still working on vdeane.list, judging by the stuff near the NH/ME line.
Your US2 travels around Bethel looked fine before though?
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