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NY: US 219 I-90 Points
« on: December 26, 2019, 09:33:29 pm »
I-90_S and I-90_N should probably be edited at minimum to I-90_W and I-90_E.

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Re: NY: US 219 I-90 Points
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2019, 10:56:42 pm »
If there's no overlap, you use directions of 219. No change is required.

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Re: NY: US 219 I-90 Points
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2019, 03:20:37 pm »
The dual carriageway setup is a bit borderline Alanlandian, but I'm with neroute2. Marking solved.
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Re: NY: US 219 I-90 Points
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2019, 04:57:57 pm »
Rethinking it, I was leaning towards suggesting using the Thruway exit numbers for those points as weird as it may look.  It could be considered complicated since they are NYST numbers instead of I-90 numbers.

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Re: NY: US 219 I-90 Points
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2019, 05:31:04 pm »
It could be considered complicated since they are NYST numbers instead of I-90 numbers.
And also that they are both 55 (though the southern/western one is 55A in the I-90 file).

I-90(55A) and I-90(55) would work, as would NYST(55A) and NYST(55).

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Re: NY: US 219 I-90 Points
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2019, 10:15:41 pm »
As defined by NYSDOT, there is no overlap between I-90 and US 219. US 219 runs along the outer roadway until said roadway merges into the main Thruway lanes. It's not a concurrency and the interchange with Ridge Road is with US 219. Thruway Exit 55 is really a pair of partial exits with US 219. The way TM currently shows this is close to accurate.

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Re: NY: US 219 I-90 Points
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2019, 10:25:35 pm »
It could be considered complicated since they are NYST numbers instead of I-90 numbers.
And also that they are both 55 (though the southern/western one is 55A in the I-90 file).

I-90(55A) and I-90(55) would work, as would NYST(55A) and NYST(55).

Given the fact that there is no concurrency, these labels make the most sense to me.  Two I-90 exits where you can get on/off US 219, correct?  And avoid the N/S vs. E/W confusion.

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Re: NY: US 219 I-90 Points
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2019, 11:41:05 am »
I had been a bit hesitant to use a fudged Two separate interchanges numbered... suffix in cases like these (disambiguation or multiplexes)...
(Compare ME26 multiplexing I-295 between Exit 8 and... also Exit 8.)

But another read thru the manual suggests that exit numbers are the right way to go, suffixes notwithstanding:
If an exit numbered highway is a cross road twice, exit numbers in parentheses can be used to distinguish them. Avoid using two designations and a parenthetical suffix in the same label.
If a non-exit-numbered highway is a cross road twice, add an underscored suffix. The direction letter refers to the relative position of the intersection along the route whose file is being made. US90_S is the southern of the two US 90 junctions along US 25, which runs S-N.
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