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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2020, 12:07:09 pm »
And so it begins...
Quote from: bob7374 on aaroads
Corridor: Route 140
Approximate start and completion dates: Oct. 18 - Oct. 23
http://blog.mass.gov/transportation/uncategorized/federally-required-exit-renumbering-beginning-on-rt-140-the-week-of-oct-18/
https://www.wcvb.com/article/massachusetts-exit-numbers-changing-october-route-140-first/34388436

WCVB had a story on the news this morning about the new exit numbers.  You can see actual video footage of the first mile-based numbers going up:
https://www.wcvb.com/article/massachusetts-exit-numbers-change-begins-route-140-first/34413239
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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2020, 02:18:02 pm »
MA 140 Exit 12...er, 20 has evidently been converted, per photos in the Northeast Roads Facebook group. Rest of them should be coming by the end of the week.

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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2020, 06:21:11 pm »
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4325
I-195 is just about done.
http://malmeroads.net/mass21c/neexitrenumbering.html#photos shows the eastbound terminus hasn't been renumbered yet. Rather than burn up an I-495 label only to change again in short order, I've gone ahead and called it 40 already under the assumption that "this exit was not forgotten about and will be given new numbers at the same time Route 25 is renumbered starting the night of November 8." Heh.

65 out of 78 list files will be broken:
1 1995hoo 43054dude aaroads atsiatas baugh17 bhemphill brendan capn chaddean charliezeb cl94 dantheman dcm55343 deathtopumpkins dfilpus dgolub dharwood dnthrox dougtone drebbin37 drfrankenstein duke87 foresthills93 formulanone froggie gman2337 griffith highway63 htm_duke jackgaynor JamesMD jjbers jonfmorse justjake jweeks kubbage lkefct M3200 mapcat mariethefoxy master_son mefailenglish mikeandkristie neilbert neroute2 nezinscot ngrier noelbotevera okroads oscar ovoss_old pnrrth scott_stieglitz squatchis tag42481 tbwillie terescoj terminal_moraine ua747sp valedc03ls vdeane vespertine wadsteckel walkabout44
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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2020, 12:01:22 pm »
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4352
MA25 is done.
(This file didn't even use the sequential exit numbers till 2018ish, so a lot of people still use the old MA28 label, and their .lists aren't broken.)

10 out of 49 list files will be broken.
420Traveler ben114 brendan drebbin37 foresthills93 formulanone M3200 nezinscot norheim valedc03ls
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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2020, 12:12:02 pm »
MA3 is done.
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4414

broken .lists:
aaroads afarina brendan dfilpus mapmikey master_son neroute2* ntallyn okroads scott_stieglitz squatchis

*Pre-broken. Pull request fixes it.
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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2020, 09:20:38 am »
It looks like you are good to move forward on US 6.  (despite that people in Cape Cod are still complaining about it)

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16734.msg2557875#msg2557875

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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2020, 01:49:16 pm »
To take the easy way out, continuing the old CHM "no exit numbers on US Highways" tradition = no-build here. ;)
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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2020, 05:38:49 pm »
To take the easy way out, continuing the old CHM "no exit numbers on US Highways" tradition = no-build here. ;)

Based on exit numbers popping up all over NC (US 1, US 29, US 52, US 64, US 70, US 74, etc.), I would say that we have moved on from that rule.  Besides, why would US 6 be on the list at the top of the page if you were not planning to convert the points to exit numbers?

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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2020, 02:06:58 pm »
Because I blindly copied all the route listings from https://www.newmassexits.com/ (hence the cases of 2 routes listed on 1 line) and then rearranged, added links & color coded as reports came in via aaroads that they were coming up for conversion. I never thought about whether it was using the old exit numbers already.
IOW, I guess we can say I did plan to convert it, then when I opened up the route and saw the crossroad labels, it became a lower priority. :)

Nonetheless, you talked me into it:
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4435

There will still be US Routes without exit number labels lurking around my states.
Those that still use sequential numbering (e.g. CT US7), or have a could-be-should-be-changed nonsensical numbering scheme that doesn't seem to make sense from either a sequential or mileage-based standpoint (I'm looking at you, TX US75) will not be a priority for conversion.
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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2020, 02:26:36 pm »
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There will still be US Routes without exit number labels lurking around my states.
Those that still use sequential numbering (e.g. CT US7), or have a could-be-should-be-changed nonsensical numbering scheme that doesn't seem to make sense from either a sequential or mileage-based standpoint (I'm looking at you, TX US75) will not be a priority for conversion.

I agree.  It is not a high priority thing, but I consider it as something that should be done as we go especially if there are other changes to the route in question.

Having stated that, I really hope that PA finds a way to move forward with adding exit numbers to US Highways (US 22, US 30, US 202, US 219, etc.) sooner rather than later. 


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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2020, 02:37:12 pm »
I agree.  It is not a high priority thing, but I consider it as something that should be done as we go especially if there are other changes to the route in question.
I'm looking through my US Routes (usaus only, not usausb) now to see if there's anything else I can convert to numbered.
Sequentially numbered routes are not a priority not only because changing the labels only to change them later on is a drag, but mainly because a numbered exit might have to move later on upon conversion to milepost, and break a .list. This was the rationale behind holding off on numbering RI10's exits.
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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2020, 06:20:27 am »
Can we have some consistency? and while we're at it lets put exit numbers on US and state routes!  There are states in the midwest that need em.  (IA, WI)
Completed:
* Systems: WI
* by US State: AR: I; AZ: I; DE: I; DC: I,DC; IL: I; IN: I; IA: I, KS: I; MA: I, MI: I; MN: I; MO: I; NE: I; NJ, I; RI: I; SD: I; WA: I; WI: I,US,WI; (AR, IN, MO pending expansions.)

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Re: MA exit number conversion
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2020, 11:36:07 am »
OK US69 & US75 are gonna get`em in a few minutes.
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Re: MA: Massachusetts exit number conversion
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2020, 04:24:17 pm »
I-90, Phase 1:
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/4445

Phase 2 (E of I-95) will happen when there's confirmation via AARoads that it's taken place in the field. When it does, it won't break any .lists, as the remaining future exit numbers are all way bigger than anything in the file now.
At that time, MA MA9 I-90(22) -> I-90(133)

Somewhat surprisingly, only Exit 10 is broken.

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dcharlie foresthills93 formulanone froggie hsford JamesMD jweeks mapmikey markkos1992 mojavenc noelbotevera paulthemapguy rlee roadgeek_adam roukan sipes23
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