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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Topic started by: Markkos1992 on August 02, 2021, 10:56:29 am

Title: OR: US 30 Point Concerns and Graph Connection
Post by: Markkos1992 on August 02, 2021, 10:56:29 am
1.  Should OldUS30Ast be marked as closed?
2.  Should ScanRd be ScaCanRd?
3.  JohnDayRivRd should be shortened.
4.  It looks like a graph connection is missing at I-84 (Exit 16) with the east end of US 30 Bypass (Portland). Of course, with US 30 itself on I-84, why is US 30 Bypass (Portland) not US 30 Business (Portland)?
Title: Re: OR: US 30 Point Concerns and Graph Connection
Post by: mapcat on August 02, 2021, 11:01:59 am
Of course, with US 30 itself on I-84, why is US 30 Bypass (Portland) not US 30 Business (Portland)?
Because that's how it's signed. (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5776784,-122.7620137,3a,20.2y,311.95h,92.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS4apAt8Y80wxUCXXmj5Y8w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Title: Re: OR: US 30 Point Concerns and Graph Connection
Post by: Markkos1992 on August 02, 2021, 11:09:15 am
Of course, with US 30 itself on I-84, why is US 30 Bypass (Portland) not US 30 Business (Portland)?
Because that's how it's signed. (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5776784,-122.7620137,3a,20.2y,311.95h,92.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS4apAt8Y80wxUCXXmj5Y8w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

I should have clarified that I knew that was the case from watching roadwaywiz's I-205 footage uploaded this morning.  I more brought it up because the BYPASS designation here does not make sense to my brain.
Title: Re: OR: US 30 Point Concerns and Graph Connection
Post by: Bickendan on August 03, 2021, 06:11:52 am
Of course, with US 30 itself on I-84, why is US 30 Bypass (Portland) not US 30 Business (Portland)?
Because that's how it's signed. (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.5776784,-122.7620137,3a,20.2y,311.95h,92.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS4apAt8Y80wxUCXXmj5Y8w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

I should have clarified that I knew that was the case from watching roadwaywiz's I-205 footage uploaded this morning.  I more brought it up because the BYPASS designation here does not make sense to my brain.

Back before the Interstate days, Bypass 30 was a true bypass, particularly of downtown Portland.
Now the area's gotten dense enough that the bypass as we'd define it is almost meaningless, but still, it's signed correctly as an option for those trying to avoid downtown while going between East County or the Gorge and Scappoose/St Helens.
Title: Re: OR: US 30 Point Concerns and Graph Connection
Post by: Bickendan on August 03, 2021, 06:23:40 am
1.  Should OldUS30Ast be marked as closed?
If not outright shifted to a shapepoint. Marking as closed seems reasonable.
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2.  Should ScanRd be ScaCanRd?
I suspect this is an artifact from when the US routes were first drafted before I joined CHM and drafted Oregon Routes. Agreed.
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3.  JohnDayRivRd should be shortened.
I'm not particuarly... bothered? by how it is (this one's very tame compared to the ones I've been dealing with for India's). But JDRivRd?
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4.  It looks like a graph connection is missing at I-84 (Exit 16) with the east end of US 30 Bypass (Portland). Of course, with US 30 itself on I-84, why is US 30 Bypass (Portland) not US 30 Business (Portland)?
The map looks good... I'll have to double check the coordinates I have between I-84 and Bypass 30.
Title: Re: OR: US 30 Point Concerns and Graph Connection
Post by: Markkos1992 on August 03, 2021, 07:02:31 am
JDRivRd is right based on the manual. (https://travelmapping.net/devel/manual/wayptlabels.php#truncate)
Title: Re: OR: US 30 Point Concerns and Graph Connection
Post by: Bickendan on August 07, 2021, 02:31:55 am
Not counting the BypUS30/US30/I-84 graph connection, changes made local.

Can I get a coordinate verification for the graph connection so I can fix it? It looks good on the map.
Title: Re: OR: US 30 Point Concerns and Graph Connection
Post by: Markkos1992 on August 07, 2021, 10:17:45 am
I would go with (45.539887°, -122.41838°).  This is the coordinate for I-84 and US 30.
Title: Re: OR: US 30 Point Concerns and Graph Connection
Post by: Bickendan on January 10, 2024, 10:34:26 pm
Fixed. Submitted.