Highway Data Discussion > In-progress Highway Systems & Work
itass: Italy Strade Statali
panda80:
First of all, what's the reason behind splitting Italy? For me the only reasonable one would be to be possible to activate region by region, but as the preview kms are also visible in the stats I don't see it to be a very important issue. As the plan to introduce SPs routes is a far-future one, I think we better wait with the splitting. Splitting has a big downside, it takes much longer to introduce the routes after a trip in the .list files, making TM user-unfriendly. In my opinion we should split just where it is absolutely necessary (like FRA, DEU for example, where someone already had the intention to introduce 5th tier systems in the near future when the splitting was done).
Jim:
I have no reason to support or oppose splitting Italy, but did want to address one of panda80's concerns about entering travels across subdivisions. Hopefully by viewing a route that crosses subdivision boundaries as a connected route, using the 6-field list entries that can span subdivisions makes it just as easy as if no subdivisions were there.
michih:
--- Quote from: panda80 on September 30, 2021, 11:44:11 am ---what's the reason behind splitting Italy?
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* The possibility to draft the tier 5 systems (sure, this will likely only happen in the remote future)
* The possibility to track travels region by region
* The possibility to compare region stats
* The possibility to see that you've clinched a region (or that you are close to....)
--- Quote from: panda80 on September 30, 2021, 11:44:11 am ---Splitting has a big downside, it takes much longer to introduce the routes after a trip in the .list files, making TM user-unfriendly.
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As Jim wrote, the 6-field list entries can help. However, my list file structure is region by region and I don't use the option.
--- Quote from: panda80 on September 30, 2021, 11:44:11 am ---In my opinion we should split just where it is absolutely necessary (like FRA, DEU for example, where someone already had the intention to introduce 5th tier systems in the near future when the splitting was done).
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3 out of 4 reason I mentioned above are still valid.
Since we get more and more travelers, and each traveler gets more and more travels, the conversion effort for the users will be least the earlier we will split.
Just my 2ct. I don't say that we have to split.
Note: si404 has already split the routes (wpt files). The next steps would (likely) "only" be testing the data set, and converting the user list files.
michih:
--- Quote from: michih on August 15, 2021, 01:50:03 pm ---We should use https://tmstage.teresco.org/ for testing the split version, and keep in mind that there was some trouble when splitting DEU, ESP and FRA. The "new" 6-field user .list file entry should help. Maybe @yakra can help again with converting the user .list files?
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@yakra: Would you volunteer and make some magic if we really decide for splitting?
si404:
One bonus of splitting is that its easier to compare with ANAS data, which is done by region, and check that its all been brought up to date.
I'm easy either way.
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