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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Solved Highway data updates => Topic started by: rickmastfan67 on June 22, 2016, 08:19:11 am
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Shown as an official interstate on the FHWA (http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/planning/national_highway_system/interstate_highway_system/routefinder/table01.cfm) along I-55, I-240, I-40. However, no signage in the field (except a few 'Future Corridor' signs).
We have it on the site as a 'Future Interstate' (http://tm.teresco.org/hb/?r=tn.i069futmem). However, do you guys think we should convert it to a full Interstate and just consider it as an 'Unsigned Interstate'? If I remember correctly, the only part of that file that wasn't approved is the 'TN-300' part at the Northern end, and only that would stay as a Future Interstate.
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I think we should be consistent, which means include it like all unsigned interstates.
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That Route Log update seems very sloppy of FHWA, given other entries on it that haven't even come close to paperwork and issuance (like I-685 AL). I'd be hesitant to take it as gospel.
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That Route Log update seems very sloppy of FHWA, given other entries on it that haven't even come close to paperwork and issuance (like I-685 AL). I'd be hesitant to take it as gospel.
Well, with I-69 in Memphis at least, they did get approval from the AASHTO and the FHWA for this. TDOT just seems to be lazy and doesn't want to post any signage.
http://route.transportation.org/Documents/SIGNEDTENNESSEELETTERI-69I-55.pdf
So, I think, at least with I-69 between MS and TN-300, should be converted to a full Interstate, and be considered as a 'hidden'. The section between I-40 to US-51 (along hidden TN-300) should stay as a "Future Interstate". Comments?
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That Route Log update seems very sloppy of FHWA, given other entries on it that haven't even come close to paperwork and issuance (like I-685 AL). I'd be hesitant to take it as gospel.
Well, with I-69 in Memphis at least, they did get approval from the AASHTO and the FHWA for this. TDOT just seems to be lazy and doesn't want to post any signage.
http://route.transportation.org/Documents/SIGNEDTENNESSEELETTERI-69I-55.pdf
So, I think, at least with I-69 between MS and TN-300, should be converted to a full Interstate, and be considered as a 'hidden'. The section between I-40 to US-51 (along hidden TN-300) should stay as a "Future Interstate". Comments?
Ok, I've made the changes that I outlined above. Promoted I-69 to full (hidden) Interstate status between Mississippi and TN-300's interchange with I-40. Keeping the part that's along TN-300 as 'future' as wasn't part of the FHWA approval for posting.
Does anybody see anything wrong with the pull request?
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/646
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No objections people?
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I would object unless/until we have some sort of documentation from TDOT that they acknowledge I-69 exists.
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Would this email that I got back in response to I-69 signage in March 2011 count? This was from a Steve Chipman in TDOT.
James,
I apologize for the delay. You ask a very good question. The reason why we have not signed I-69 along existing routes, I-55/I-240/I-40, is because it would be a big project to undertake at this time with the existing economic conditions as they are today. We do not see a benefit in signing existing routes until more of I-69 is completed. It would require modifying overhead and ground mount signs, added cost for surveying/establishing locations, developing a plan, and securing funding. Your suggestion to post an "End I-69" sign at the state line might have merit. I will past this on for consideration and to see if it is possible.
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Not really, unless they actually posted the END I-69 sign. Given past precedent, we should be looking for one of the following: A) on an official map, B) signage, or C) in a route log.
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It's obvious to me that TDOT does not care about this matter ::)
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Not really, unless they actually posted the END I-69 sign. Given past precedent, we should be looking for one of the following: A) on an official map, B) signage, or C) in a route log.
Is anything available now?
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Not really, unless they actually posted the END I-69 sign. Given past precedent, we should be looking for one of the following: A) on an official map, B) signage, or C) in a route log.
Is anything available now?
I drove the piece of Future I-69 up to US 51 when I drove through Memphis back in September, and I saw no I-69 references whatsoever. I would have no problem if mapcat moved this right into the solved pile.
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Not really, unless they actually posted the END I-69 sign. Given past precedent, we should be looking for one of the following: A) on an official map, B) signage, or C) in a route log.
Is anything available now?
No. Try again next year (maybe by then there might be something up around Union City).
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Marking solved, so if anything does change, someone can feel free to start a new topic.