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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Solved Highway data updates => Topic started by: jayhawkco on October 04, 2022, 09:34:01 am

Title: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: jayhawkco on October 04, 2022, 09:34:01 am
Coming from the west on US136/NE4, it turns right onto 2nd Street. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2659115,-96.7524941,3a,75y,139.48h,98.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBMq4ox0bH9YydLQvjyFe_g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)

Left onto Market Street. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.265025,-96.7522461,3a,75y,193.96h,94.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRVw5_VFalntmjm9NLQMpoQ!2e0!7i3328!8i1664)

Then US77 Trk stops at the intersection with US77. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2648026,-96.7477893,3a,75y,124.04h,85.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sw3RX0LBt2wSVUx20JlyrEQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

While US136/NE4 Trk continues on Market. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2648427,-96.7467552,3a,75y,200.51h,80t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZsKnKc5_GO9wj8ir-ohDzA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Then turns left on 7th Street. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2648089,-96.7457566,3a,75y,98.33h,81.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6jcrpsWIYNCsnQNdwdmiLA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

Then ends back at Court Street. (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2657557,-96.7454045,3a,75y,10.07h,89.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-Hriz9tyI_4CS-1Z_MdCpw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: yakra on October 04, 2022, 08:45:53 pm
There's a westbound counterpart on Ella St, returning via 3rd St instead of 2nd.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: jayhawkco on October 05, 2022, 09:32:05 am
How do we normally handle the one way situations?
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: cockroachking on October 07, 2022, 01:20:22 am
How do we normally handle the one way situations?
If the two Truck PA-61's in Sunbury (North (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=cockroachking&r=pa.pa061trknsu) and South (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=cockroachking&r=pa.pa061trkssu)) are any precedent, then there would be separate routes for each direction.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: the_spui_ninja on October 07, 2022, 06:53:31 pm
I brought this up when I was talking about truck routes in El Dorado, KS a couple of years ago, guess I should have done a split topic. I think I didn't because I wasn't sure how the one-way routes would work.

There may be more (NM?) -- grep datacheckfps.csv
I know there's some in Beatrice, NE
streetview (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2659083,-96.7526213,3a,27.4y,124.54h,91.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqHtKvNC96J9t4Eb4_1Oe3w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)

These however utilize oneways on the north and south sides of US 136/NE 4, so they're a tad different.

LOL just realized I had the wrong city a couple years ago:
They seem similar to the truck routes in Hastings, NE (another semi-confusing loop of routes) and those aren't in at all.

I meant Beatrice I swear
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: neroute2 on October 07, 2022, 07:50:40 pm
It's worth noting that this is not a truck route for 77, only for 136 and 4.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: jayhawkco on October 10, 2022, 01:52:55 pm
It's worth noting that this is not a truck route for 77, only for 136 and 4.

I suppose that makes sense, since it doesn't help truckers coming N->S or vv. So what do we want to do with this one?
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: yakra on October 10, 2022, 04:47:55 pm
Just leave it out.
A rule of thumb for truck routes is, does it also make sense as an alternate route?
NH110 Truck (Berlin) was left out for the same reason, kind of a case of a missing TO sign.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: jayhawkco on October 11, 2022, 01:52:23 pm
Just leave it out.
A rule of thumb for truck routes is, does it also make sense as an alternate route?
NH110 Truck (Berlin) was left out for the same reason, kind of a case of a missing TO sign.

My "what do we want to do with this one" was referring to NE4/US136 Trk. I agree we shouldn't have a US77 Trk.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: the_spui_ninja on October 11, 2022, 06:40:21 pm
Just leave it out.
A rule of thumb for truck routes is, does it also make sense as an alternate route?
NH110 Truck (Berlin) was left out for the same reason, kind of a case of a missing TO sign.

My "what do we want to do with this one" was referring to NE4/US136 Trk. I agree we shouldn't have a US77 Trk.
Yeah, the "US 77 Trk" isn't a bypass of US 77, it's for truckers on 136/4 so they don't turn in the middle of downtown. Beatrice seems to be fine with truckers on US 77 through downtown, but not on 136/4.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: jayhawkco on October 14, 2022, 11:42:33 am
So the thought is to not put this in TM? It can definitely be used as a bypass route, I suppose, if downtown Beatrice is busy.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: neroute2 on October 14, 2022, 11:47:19 am
So the thought is to not put this in TM? It can definitely be used as a bypass route, I suppose, if downtown Beatrice is busy.
136/4 Truck seems fine. It's just 77 Truck that doesn't work as a bypass.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: jayhawkco on October 14, 2022, 04:56:46 pm
So the thought is to not put this in TM? It can definitely be used as a bypass route, I suppose, if downtown Beatrice is busy.
136/4 Truck seems fine. It's just 77 Truck that doesn't work as a bypass.

I agree. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting yakra here:

Just leave it out.
A rule of thumb for truck routes is, does it also make sense as an alternate route?
NH110 Truck (Berlin) was left out for the same reason, kind of a case of a missing TO sign.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: yakra on October 14, 2022, 05:04:36 pm
Yes. I agree with neroute2's most recent post.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: jayhawkco on October 23, 2022, 02:28:00 am
Just giving this a bump so it actually ends up in TM.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: jayhawkco on November 06, 2022, 10:22:54 am
Just giving this a bump so it actually ends up in TM.

And again.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: yakra on November 06, 2022, 12:06:01 pm
Patience.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: jayhawkco on January 10, 2023, 08:53:17 am
Just checking. I'm a project manager by trade so my apologies if following up is in my nature.
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: jayhawkco on May 23, 2023, 05:34:59 pm
Patience.

Just checking again. Thanks!
Title: Re: NE: US77/US136/NE4 Trk in Beatrice Very Well Signed in the Field
Post by: yakra on September 17, 2023, 06:08:43 pm
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6824