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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Solved Highway data updates => Topic started by: osu-lsu on February 23, 2022, 10:43:52 am

Title: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: osu-lsu on February 23, 2022, 10:43:52 am
From my trip to Baton Rouge, last week, I can confirm the following...

LA 427(Pra) has been cut back from Siegen Ln (LA3246) all the way south to US 61 (Airline Hwy).
Interestingly enough, the fine folks in Ascension Parish have kept the signs for LA 427 between US 61 & La 73, a mere 1/3 of a mile length.
With the deletion of LA 427(Pra), that will leave a dangling end for LA 928 at Perkins Rd (former LA 427). I let the admins sort that out.

LA 1248 has no signs along Bluebonnet between La 42 (Burbank) and La 30 (Nicholson).

LA 3019 no longer exists along Veterans Blvd. in Orleans Parish. Saw no signs for that number while down there.
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: Markkos1992 on February 23, 2022, 11:03:54 am
It seems like LA does not want me to clinch anything beyond I-10, its auxiliaries, and I-12 next month.
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: mapcat on February 27, 2022, 09:46:21 am
From my trip to Baton Rouge, last week, I can confirm the following...

LA 427(Pra) has been cut back from Siegen Ln (LA3246) all the way south to US 61 (Airline Hwy).
Interestingly enough, the fine folks in Ascension Parish have kept the signs for LA 427 between US 61 & La 73, a mere 1/3 of a mile length.
With the deletion of LA 427(Pra), that will leave a dangling end for LA 928 at Perkins Rd (former LA 427). I let the admins sort that out.

The part in East Baton Rouge Parish has been removed, but the LADOTD functional classification viewer says the Ascension Parish segment remains in the state system. I'll cut it back to the parish line.

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LA 1248 has no signs along Bluebonnet between La 42 (Burbank) and La 30 (Nicholson).

LADOTD's viewer seems to indicate that the entire route has been relinquished. Signs are also gone at Perkins Rd (former LA 427). But they remain on I-10 as of December 2021. (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3819831,-91.0653374,3a,43y,313.14h,100.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s77vO59L6EmjNI1ZIYXXlwA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) Did you happen to notice any changes at that end?

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LA 3019 no longer exists along Veterans Blvd. in Orleans Parish. Saw no signs for that number while down there.

So you're saying that this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9996792,-90.116643,3a,18.1y,144.9h,87.17t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSSi9ABJdPP9Pqpeh9trTEQ!2e0!5s20220101T000000!7i16384!8i8192) is no longer there? That's the only evidence I've ever seen of signage on this road. That GMSV imagery is from last month.
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: Markkos1992 on February 27, 2022, 11:48:53 am
Looking a bit deeper at LA 426, it seems like it has been truncated to Sherwood Forest Blvd (East of intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4368664,-91.057102,3a,37.5y,110.28h,90.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sapKiMoWdbjSUdUtMT3zztg!2e0!5s20190601T000000!7i13312!8i6656)) (West of intersection (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4366023,-91.0578919,3a,75y,270.18h,84.44t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1swwJ1srbbS13OcWDhKAgxRw!2e0!5s20210301T000000!7i16384!8i8192)).

I also saw removed signage when looking at the US 190 intersection over the last few days.

Also LA 73 (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4309394,-91.1089284,3a,75y,280.93h,89.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfsBgj1qql2KPe-ODg2jB8w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) may have been split into parts....  This is getting weird.  I am glad that Puerto Rico is done.

Well if there are as many truncations/changes around Baton Rouge as I may be thinking (as I continue to route plan for my Natchez, MS, trip), relooking at LA may be more important for you mapcat than anything else in your other states combined.

Finally, I did determine that LA 3064 has at least been extended to Highland Ave (and signage is as far south as LA 42 (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3621049,-91.1272174,3a,37.5y,56.95h,87.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7Vy5vWMNBrnOnT1pDD6W0g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (if it is still LA 42 (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3599533,-91.124089,3a,75y,86.17h,82.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scyasHjDsFn11ux04cQDOeA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)).

I'm done with this for now.  I just want to know what I should clinch off the interstates and what I should not bother with.   :pan:
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: osu-lsu on February 27, 2022, 10:46:32 pm
Dave, I didn't go north of Burbank along Bluebonnet. I have no idea what is going on between Perkins and I-10.
I missed that sign on Veterans. If GSV shows it there from last month, then I'll take the mileage (all 1/2 mile of it)
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: Markkos1992 on March 18, 2022, 07:24:42 am
mapcat, I did see the sign for LA 3019 that you linked above.

I also only saw one sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.064658,-89.939706,3a,75y,359.7h,84.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svQJmi4savp9dyrWfw5pIYg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) for LA 47 north of I-10 though the Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Highway_47) indicates that it has always been unsigned north of there.

EDIT (3-23-2022)::  I also saw that LA 1259 (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.4747983,-90.9565166,3a,75y,20.42h,88.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-u-8aenJHulyYGs-lUOCcA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) is still signed.
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: mapcat on March 27, 2022, 07:37:26 pm
Thanks. LA 1259 will be added in the next update. Leaving 47 alone for now. https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/5683
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: Markkos1992 on March 28, 2022, 11:27:26 am
As an update to my previous posts, what I saw for LA 426 and LA 3064 in GSV is what I saw in Louisiana on 3/20/2022.  I only drove LA 426 to Sherwood Forest Blvd and did not drive east of there to US 190. I also did not drive US 190 at the current eastern end of LA 426.
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: mapcat on March 28, 2022, 08:33:23 pm
As an update to my previous posts, what I saw for LA 426 and LA 3064 in GSV is what I saw in Louisiana on 3/20/2022.  I only drove LA 426 to Sherwood Forest Blvd and did not drive east of there to US 190. I also did not drive US 190 at the current eastern end of LA 426.

Okay, thanks. https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/5686
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: Markkos1992 on May 06, 2022, 07:18:47 pm
I was trying to use the LADOTD Classification Map to clarify that Morrison Rd is unsigned LA 1253, and the lines for the routes were not loading for some reason.  I am not sure if it was myself, the browser, or a map issue.

EDIT:  It looks like the southern portion of LA 898 became LA 575 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.1735174,-91.2313769,3a,75y,209.39h,84.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3Wx7gSp3IW3hOlTeCSGgow!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) at some point according to signage.

Also yes what I saw for LA 42 in the field matches the GSV link from 2/27/2022.
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: Markkos1992 on May 20, 2022, 10:37:39 pm
It looks like we may have another LA route addition in LA 1267 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3378.msg2739501#msg2739501).
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: mapcat on June 22, 2022, 11:25:16 am
I was trying to use the LADOTD Classification Map to clarify that Morrison Rd is unsigned LA 1253, and the lines for the routes were not loading for some reason.  I am not sure if it was myself, the browser, or a map issue.

I'm not drafting unsigned LA routes.

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EDIT:  It looks like the southern portion of LA 898 became LA 575 (https://www.google.com/maps/@32.1735174,-91.2313769,3a,75y,209.39h,84.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3Wx7gSp3IW3hOlTeCSGgow!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) at some point according to signage.

Thanks. Changed in my local copy.

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Also yes what I saw for LA 42 in the field matches the GSV link from 2/27/2022.

And thanks again. Changed in my local copy. I extended LA 3064 as well.

LA 30 has been relinquished through the LSU campus, so it's now split into a very short LA 30 (Baton Rouge) and the remainder, which starts at former LA 42. List files will be broken for users with a LA 327 point, which was in the relinquished portion.

It looks like we may have another LA route addition in LA 1267 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3378.msg2739501#msg2739501 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=3378.msg2739501#msg2739501)).

Okay. No action required until someone confirms that it's open (and signed). I might be in the area in August but I'd appreciate a heads-up if it opens earlier than that. Can't find a project end date on the DOTD more exact than "late 2021".
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: Markkos1992 on June 22, 2022, 12:34:53 pm
To clarify, I was only looking at LA 1253 to add to my personal spreadsheet.  It is definitely 100% unsigned and should not be here.

I have no plans to go to LA anytime soon (unlike OH, IN, and KY, which I plan to drive through this weekend).  It was truly a one trip affair of which I am still surprised that I had clinched 42 routes. 


Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: mapcat on June 26, 2022, 03:59:55 pm
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/5885
Title: Re: LA: More disappearing routes
Post by: Markkos1992 on June 29, 2022, 08:14:43 pm
I moved the LA 1267 info into a new topic so that this one can be closed.  (https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=5035.0)