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autl4: Upper Austria Landesstraßen 1. Ordnung
« on: September 03, 2022, 10:41:37 am »
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Re: autl4: Upper Austria Landesstraßen 1. Ordnung
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2022, 07:59:23 am »
General questions

 - about border points: You've gone with the lower level Bezirke names, rather than the Länder, but these are Länder systems, so shouldn't the border labels be Länder-based, rather than Bezirke-based? I guess it's awkward as you'd have AT4/AT5 format if you go with ISO-3166-2, but Obe/Sal formats would work (Obe for Oberösterreich) as O/N, O/S (or O/Sbg) is not great.

 - do numbers duplicate between these Landesstraßen systems? They don't in the two signed systems we have in the browser, so do we need the banners (which, if needed, probably ought to be something less obscure than the ISO numbers: 'O' and 'T'?)

L501 - add point for Uberackern?

L502 - B148 is off

L503, L504, L505 - fine

L506 - add point for L1147_S (and L1147 -> L1147_N)

L507, L508, L509, L509a, L510, L511, L512, L513, L513Rie, L514, L515, L516, L517, L518, L519, L520, L521, L522, L525, L528, L529, L531, L532, L533, L534, L536, L537, L538, L539, L540, L541, L541a, L543, L544, L545, L546, L547, L548, L549, L550, L551, L552, L553, L554, L555, L556, L557, L558, L559 - fine

L559Hau - is two segements, Hausmann:
Obe/Nie http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.012093&lon=14.488942
Nie/Obe http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.009004&lon=14.492021

and Kleinraming:
Obe/Nie http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.005145&lon=14.493397
Nie/Obe http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.997173&lon=14.497511

L559Ste, L559Win, L560, L561 - fine

L562 - B138 should be _N/_S no?

L563 - add points for Pucking and Freindorf?

L563a, L564, L565 - fine

L566
 - L1394 -> L1349/L1394
 - A1 is slightly off (also E60)

L567 - fine

L568 - L1402 -> L1402/L1403

L569 - B3_Ste, B3_Pul would directional suffixes be better to show concurrency?

L570 - Dir -> MacStr_W

L571, L572, L573, L575, L576, L579 - fine

L581 - add point at north end of SamStr?

L584 - L1528 -> L1528/L1531

L585, L587, L588 - fine

L589 - L1552 -> L1552/L1558

L590 - fine

Edit: Lander abbrevs
« Last Edit: September 17, 2022, 08:13:10 am by si404 »

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Re: autl4: Upper Austria Landesstraßen 1. Ordnung
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2022, 08:09:36 am »
There's some abbreviations for Lander on German wikipedia
Code: [Select]
English German Abbrev ISO-3166-2
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Burgenland Burgen­land B / Bgld. AT1
Carinthia Kärnten K / Ktn. AT2
Lower Austria Nieder­österreich N / NÖ AT3
Upper Austria Ober­österreich O / OÖ AT4
Salzburg Salzburg S / Sbg. AT5
Styria Steier­mark St / Stmk. AT6
Tyrol Tirol T AT7
Vorarlberg Vorarl­berg V / Vbg. AT8
Vienna Wien W AT9
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Re: autl4: Upper Austria Landesstraßen 1. Ordnung
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2022, 11:03:39 am »
General questions

 - about border points: You've gone with the lower level Bezirke names, rather than the Länder, but these are Länder systems, so shouldn't the border labels be Länder-based, rather than Bezirke-based? I guess it's awkward as you'd have AT4/AT5 format if you go with ISO-3166-2, but Obe/Sal formats would work (Obe for Oberösterreich) as O/N, O/S (or O/Sbg) is not great.

The road list of Tyrol has them listed by Bezirk (district) and the very first "border" occurance on drafting was a district border where the road number changed. Was it the one Chris recently mentioned (last pic)? Thus, I thought I should always use district names to be consistently.

- do numbers duplicate between these Landesstraßen systems?

Yes, e.g. L47 exists in Vorarlberg, Carinthia and Lower Austria.

They don't in the two signed systems we have in the browser, so do we need the banners (which, if needed, probably ought to be something less obscure than the ISO numbers: 'O' and 'T'?)

I want to apply the same rules as we implement all over the world, and stick with ISO codes.

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Re: autl4: Upper Austria Landesstraßen 1. Ordnung
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Re: autl4: Upper Austria Landesstraßen 1. Ordnung
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2022, 01:50:46 pm »
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All fine

There's no datacheck errors, and the few NMPs seem to be false positives.

Have a look tomorrow, and make sure it's all OK, though the changes look absolutely fine, and it should be fine to activate (and I'm not delaying you so you don't get to trigger the milestones you point out in the statistics thread - you can do it tonight if you want).
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