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OR: I-30 BL St Helens
« on: September 20, 2022, 07:20:23 pm »
The title's ironically quite correct.

Per https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32145.msg2770302#msg2770302, I drove up to St Helens today to field check this, and Bus 30 is well signed along eastbound Gable Rd and Old Portland Rd, and in both directions along Columbia Blvd. The photo in the AARoads thread is at Old Portland and 1st. No BUS US 30 assemblies, all green interstate shields.
No signage from US 30, however.

This isn't an ODOT recognized loop, as that was decomissioned a while back, if ever a formal ODOT route (I don't see a decom entry for US 30 Bus in the Oregon Named Highways list); I doubt AASHTO heard of this without diving into the AASHTO thread at AARoads.

As the route is well signed in the field: Do we add this to our database, and if so, as US 30 Bus, or as signed as I-30 BL (despite being nowhere close to I-30 itself)?
If not, at minimum, the StHelSt point for US 30 needs to be looked at to see if it should changed to ColBlvd, as that's the dominant portion of the St Helens St/Columbia Blvd couplet.

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Re: OR: I-30 BL St Helens
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 01:13:33 pm »
So I'm betting what happened is the city decided they wanted a business loop, ordered signs via a form, clicked the wrong type of shield, and then received all the I-30 BL signage. To be be both frugal and environmentally friendly (waste not want not!), they used the signs anyway (all of this is conjecture). Honestly, I'd be down for adding this in as I-30 BL as kind of a collaborator inside joke, a mockery of bad city-spec signage, but that really shouldn't hold any weight.

Was there any signage from 30 itself?
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Re: OR: I-30 BL St Helens
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 09:52:26 pm »
Nothing from northbound (westbound) US 30; it's possible there might be something coming in from Columbia City, but I doubt it.

I'm inclined to do draft this as signed myself, with the collaborator inside joke angle as a bonus.