FL 470: where do the endpoints come from?

[neroute2]

FL 470 is clearly signed at I-75 and CR 475, but nowhere else. There are no signs for begin or end state maintenance. It's not in the SLDs or GIS data. So where do our endpoints come from?

[rickmastfan67]

Guesses, due to the limited signage there.  I pretty much went with the ends of the construction area that was visible in StreetView.  Was the best solution I could come up with due to no END signage anywhere.

[neroute2]

https://sumterclerk.granicus.com/player/clip/1783?view_id=2&meta_id=252326&redirect=true&h=4da5f90c0f6fdf2ffc550102e0673a1e

He also spoke in length on item seven, the Jurisdictional Transfer Status for County Road 470, informing the Board that the State had gone through a study and then stopped. They did not move forward with the Jurisdictional Transfer so the State's website did not show closure on whether they would be moving forward with the transfer or not, which in turn has caused problems with development potential in that area. Mr. Arnold and the Chairman asked the Secretary of State to put closure on this item. After working with his staff, the Secretary's office concluded that they would not be moving forward with the Jurisdictional Transfer and therefore the state would not be moving forward with the widening of 470 and realignment.

The audio confirms that the swap for SR 48 was cancelled. So only the portion within the interchange ROW is state maintained. I have requested the ROW maps from the state to determine the exact endpoints.

[neroute2]

The east end of the 1979 ROW transfer west of I-75 was at the limited access ROW line, which was 349.94 feet east of the section line (CR 491) and 472.24 feet west of the centerline of I-75. It appears that this is about 30 feet east of CR 495, which is presumably close enough to use CR 495 as the west end.

The west end of the 1978 ROW transfer east of I-75 was at the east edge of the railroad ROW. Being about 250 feet east of CR 475, this should probably get an End point.

I can't determine if there were any changes during the recent widening of I-75.

I can send you the files if desired.

[rickmastfan67]

The audio confirms that the swap for SR 48 was cancelled. So only the portion within the interchange ROW is state maintained. I have requested the ROW maps from the state to determine the exact endpoints.

If the swap for FL-48 didn't happen, why is there CR-48 signage around the interchange there?  Oh boy, this opened up another can of worms.  The only FL-48 signage I saw, was from the intersection with US-301 up to the intersection where it turns west to head to I-75.

[neroute2]

If the swap for FL-48 didn't happen, why is there CR-48 signage around the interchange there?  Oh boy, this opened up another can of worms.  The only FL-48 signage I saw, was from the intersection with US-301 up to the intersection where it turns west to head to I-75.

As long as I can remember, SR 48 signage has always been wonky; signs on US 301 north still say CR 475 to SR 48. It looks like signs west of CR 475 were replaced with county shields between 2015 and 2018 as part of a widening project. Maybe the swap was supposed to be a done deal at that time?

[rickmastfan67]

signs on US 301 north still say CR 475 to SR 48.

Yet just feet above that intersection, you have a "FL-48; TO NB CR-475" set of shields that have been around since the first StreetView run there.

https://goo.gl/maps/J81ciCnsaoS7Qc8F8

Wild.

So, what would your opinion be on FL-48?  Leave it as-is, or shorten it to the intersection of Main/Belt based on signage?

[neroute2]

So, what would your opinion be on FL-48?  Leave it as-is, or shorten it to the intersection of Main/Belt based on signage?

This makes me question truncation. I'm inclined to leave as-is because signage is inconsistent.

[rickmastfan67]

The west end of the 1978 ROW transfer east of I-75 was at the east edge of the railroad ROW. Being about 250 feet east of CR 475, this should probably get an End point.

Hmmm, then I think the placement of the EB FL-470 shield is possibly beyond that.  So, something must have changed a little bit.

[neroute2]

Hm. In that case it may be gun jumping just like on 48.