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autl4: Upper Austria Landesstraßen 1.+2. Ordnung
michih:
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--- Quote from: michih on December 21, 2023, 10:16:40 am ---Sounds reasonable. Have you checked that the 4-digit roads in Upper Austria are signed too?
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Soooo I'm looking and looking and I can't even find a sign for a 3-digit Landesstraßen in Upper Austria.
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@Duke87, what do you think now? Should I add the 4-digit routes?
Duke87:
--- Quote from: michih on December 28, 2023, 02:33:20 pm ---@Duke87, what do you think now? Should I add the 4-digit routes?
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Precedent from this side of the pond is that a route whose number appears on milemarkers and only on milemarkers does not count as "signed". Going by that I don't even think the 3-digit ones belong in TM.
Buuut I also know we're far looser about requiring things be signed in continental Europe, and deleting an active system seems silly.
So IDK. Leave it as is and move on I guess.
michih:
--- Quote from: Duke87 on December 30, 2023, 08:00:34 pm ---Precedent from this side of the pond is that a route whose number appears on milemarkers and only on milemarkers does not count as "signed". Going by that I don't even think the 3-digit ones belong in TM.
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German state road* numbers do also only** appear on km posts just as Tyrol and Styria. We agreed back then, that it's enough. To be honest, I did could not even check for km posts due to the non-existing GSV coverage back then. I'm generally gone with official data + OSM + GM all over Europe***. I think that we do have systems in Africa and Asia which are even "less signed". I don't have an issue with that.
*14 active systems
**I've actually seen about five S road numbers on direction signs in Saxony by myself though.
***Most of my European countries are really very good in signposting so that we can easily trust them in combination with OSM.
I think that we have precedent from Salzburg for including "Landesstraßen 2. Ordnung" to the tier 5 "Landesstraßen" system. I'd add them.
Edit: Adding "+ OSM + GM"
michih:
I've started drafting the 4-digit routes as a temporary system so that it can be reviewed later: https://travelmapping.net/hb/index.php?sys=autl42 I'll merge the systems on activation.
michih:
The new 2. Ordnung system has more than 450 routes for almost 1,800 miles: https://travelmapping.net/user/system.php?u=michih&sys=autl42
The system is ready for peer-reviewing. It will be merged with the active 1. Ordnung system on its activation.
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