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Other Discussion / Re: Mileage Issues
« Last post by Jim on Yesterday at 02:44:21 pm »Railways do still need an update to bring mileage back…
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Other Discussion / Re: New Travels and Stats Discussion
« Last post by mapmikey on Yesterday at 01:59:23 pm »Took an 18.5 hr U-turn yesterday...
New clinches in order:
LSR 151, LSR 707, WV 131, WV 2 ALT, *WV 2 Spur (Moundsville), OH 872, US 250 Trk (Moundsville), *US 40 Spur, WV 88, WV 27, WV 27 ALT, *US 22 ALT, LSR 507, WV 105, WV 8, LSR 208, *OH 702, *WV 27 Spur, WV 67, PA 331
* - unsigned
New mileage: WV 20, WV 2, OH 7, PA 844, PA 18.
LSR 507 still has a structure reference marker on it with US 22 ALT shown - https://maps.app.goo.gl/RSdKEsC1L5zJeYkW9
Agree from above that PA 331 is abominable. WV 67 is nowhere near as bad as WV 72 south of US 219 or the north half of WV 71...
New clinches in order:
LSR 151, LSR 707, WV 131, WV 2 ALT, *WV 2 Spur (Moundsville), OH 872, US 250 Trk (Moundsville), *US 40 Spur, WV 88, WV 27, WV 27 ALT, *US 22 ALT, LSR 507, WV 105, WV 8, LSR 208, *OH 702, *WV 27 Spur, WV 67, PA 331
* - unsigned
New mileage: WV 20, WV 2, OH 7, PA 844, PA 18.
LSR 507 still has a structure reference marker on it with US 22 ALT shown - https://maps.app.goo.gl/RSdKEsC1L5zJeYkW9
Agree from above that PA 331 is abominable. WV 67 is nowhere near as bad as WV 72 south of US 219 or the north half of WV 71...
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Other Discussion / Re: Mileage Issues
« Last post by michih on Yesterday at 01:37:41 pm »Railways do still need an update to bring mileage back…
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Updates to Highway Data / AR226B Cash
« Last post by vespertine on Yesterday at 01:23:28 am »There is a signed AR226B in Cash, which looks like it just travels from AR18 to the dead end near the Nutrien building along the old AR226 routing. I believe there is a TO AR226B shield on AR226, which would indicate its not connected to it (maybe. It's Arkansas).
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Updates to Highway Data / Re: AR/TN: US 78 moved to Crump and posted on I-55
« Last post by vespertine on Yesterday at 01:13:17 am »Roadtripping in Arkansas. I've seen US78 cosigned with quite a few routes. Western most signing started at US67 and AR226. It's signed along AR226, then US49, then I-555, then AR18S, then AR18 at least to AR119 where I got on (but I assume it goes to Blytheville from there). Decently signed, but not all turns are posted yet.
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: zafr: South Africa Main Provincial Roads
« Last post by shiggins on May 24, 2024, 09:28:24 pm »R70:
We might have the wrong northwestern terminus of R70. Wikipedia says R70 ends at the roundabout on Church Street in Odendaalsrus, but the signs at that roundabout don’t mention R70, only R34. Signs at the southeastern end of the concurrency we have in TM have R70 only going southeast, and there are no signs for R70 at the interchange with R30. However, the RDDA and OSM have the route currently in TM.
M3: Should be M3_S. M3 runs concurrently with R70 into Odendaalsrus.
HenAir: The Henneman Airstrip no longer exists. You could rename this point Pho.
VooSt: Should be HamSt.
+X910687: Could be replaced by a visible point at S1287.
+X349762: Could be replaced by a visible point at S473.
Ros: Should be GenFickSt.
+X186961: Could be replaced by a visible point at S457.
R71:
DropSt: Should be DorpSt.
+X602922: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Cheerio (allegedly D882 according to OSM).
AgaSt: Agatha Street has an underpass under R71. You could move this point west to Danie Joubert Street.
TzaAir: This road does not lead to the Tzaneen Airport. It is signed for Taganashoek and is D2355 according to OSM.
CalNgoRd: Should be CalNgoDr.
R72:
+X566520: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Springmount.
Rie: This point is too far east.
Sea: Should be WelCt.
FishRivMou: Should be DR2093.
Wes: This road has been realigned. The point should be moved here and renamed DR7028/DR7486.
+X162688: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR7495.
Bell: Should be MR522.
+X241853: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Jojweni.
R347: Has been downgraded to M25.
M25: Should be M25_S.
MilRd: Should be M18_W . . . maybe? Wikipedia says M18’s western terminus is the R72/R346 junction (which is signed as M5) and its eastern terminus is here (which is signed as M18). However, just across the bridge from the eastern terminus, there’s a shield with M18 in parentheses, and there were previously shields for M18 at the intersection of Dr. Zahn Road and Military Road saying that M18 both went west along Military Road and east into West Bank. There’s an M18 shield in West Bank at the corner of Bank Street and Strand Street pointing northwest along Bank, and there used to be another pointing southwest along Strand. M18 is also signed north from the western roundabout on M20 toward EastLonAir, despite there being no possible connection from that roundabout to the rest of M18 without a lengthy concurrency with R72 or a route that takes M18 through a gated industrial park.
R73:
M4: Should be M4_W.
ZRManHwy_N and ZRManHwy_S: Should be R730_N and R730_S.
Missing a point at M4_E between ZRManHwy_N and ZRManHwy_S.
RivDr: Should be RivSideDr.
+X800227: Could be replaced by a visible point at S484.
+X444484: Could be replaced by a visible point at S481.
R74:
R74 leaves the red lines on the waypoint editor between +X449861 and +X107444.
+X765615: Could be replaced by a visible point at D117.
+X697589: Could be replaced by a visible point at L2515.
+X770595: Could be replaced by a visible point at D110.
+X872127: Could be replaced by a visible point at D1540.
EbrDr: Should be ManDr.
R75:
+X774666: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR7367 (I think).
R75 leaves the red lines on the waypoint editor between R337_W and +X137546. This could be fixed by replacing +X137546 with a visible point at DR1879.
+X635424: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR1866.
Kle: Should be DR1849/MN50423.
M16: Should be SpoRd. I could not find any signs for M16 anywhere along OSM’s route, and Wikipedia doesn’t list an M16 in Gqeberha.
R76 only has points at the other routes already in TM which it intersects, and it goes way outside the red lines on the waypoint editor. There’s so much work that needs to be done on R76 that it’s not worth peer reviewing it yet.
We might have the wrong northwestern terminus of R70. Wikipedia says R70 ends at the roundabout on Church Street in Odendaalsrus, but the signs at that roundabout don’t mention R70, only R34. Signs at the southeastern end of the concurrency we have in TM have R70 only going southeast, and there are no signs for R70 at the interchange with R30. However, the RDDA and OSM have the route currently in TM.
M3: Should be M3_S. M3 runs concurrently with R70 into Odendaalsrus.
HenAir: The Henneman Airstrip no longer exists. You could rename this point Pho.
VooSt: Should be HamSt.
+X910687: Could be replaced by a visible point at S1287.
+X349762: Could be replaced by a visible point at S473.
Ros: Should be GenFickSt.
+X186961: Could be replaced by a visible point at S457.
R71:
DropSt: Should be DorpSt.
+X602922: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Cheerio (allegedly D882 according to OSM).
AgaSt: Agatha Street has an underpass under R71. You could move this point west to Danie Joubert Street.
TzaAir: This road does not lead to the Tzaneen Airport. It is signed for Taganashoek and is D2355 according to OSM.
CalNgoRd: Should be CalNgoDr.
R72:
+X566520: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Springmount.
Rie: This point is too far east.
Sea: Should be WelCt.
FishRivMou: Should be DR2093.
Wes: This road has been realigned. The point should be moved here and renamed DR7028/DR7486.
+X162688: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR7495.
Bell: Should be MR522.
+X241853: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Jojweni.
R347: Has been downgraded to M25.
M25: Should be M25_S.
MilRd: Should be M18_W . . . maybe? Wikipedia says M18’s western terminus is the R72/R346 junction (which is signed as M5) and its eastern terminus is here (which is signed as M18). However, just across the bridge from the eastern terminus, there’s a shield with M18 in parentheses, and there were previously shields for M18 at the intersection of Dr. Zahn Road and Military Road saying that M18 both went west along Military Road and east into West Bank. There’s an M18 shield in West Bank at the corner of Bank Street and Strand Street pointing northwest along Bank, and there used to be another pointing southwest along Strand. M18 is also signed north from the western roundabout on M20 toward EastLonAir, despite there being no possible connection from that roundabout to the rest of M18 without a lengthy concurrency with R72 or a route that takes M18 through a gated industrial park.
R73:
M4: Should be M4_W.
ZRManHwy_N and ZRManHwy_S: Should be R730_N and R730_S.
Missing a point at M4_E between ZRManHwy_N and ZRManHwy_S.
RivDr: Should be RivSideDr.
+X800227: Could be replaced by a visible point at S484.
+X444484: Could be replaced by a visible point at S481.
R74:
R74 leaves the red lines on the waypoint editor between +X449861 and +X107444.
+X765615: Could be replaced by a visible point at D117.
+X697589: Could be replaced by a visible point at L2515.
+X770595: Could be replaced by a visible point at D110.
+X872127: Could be replaced by a visible point at D1540.
EbrDr: Should be ManDr.
R75:
+X774666: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR7367 (I think).
R75 leaves the red lines on the waypoint editor between R337_W and +X137546. This could be fixed by replacing +X137546 with a visible point at DR1879.
+X635424: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR1866.
Kle: Should be DR1849/MN50423.
M16: Should be SpoRd. I could not find any signs for M16 anywhere along OSM’s route, and Wikipedia doesn’t list an M16 in Gqeberha.
R76 only has points at the other routes already in TM which it intersects, and it goes way outside the red lines on the waypoint editor. There’s so much work that needs to be done on R76 that it’s not worth peer reviewing it yet.
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: Guatemala: gtmrn, gtmsf, naca
« Last post by neroute2 on May 24, 2024, 12:10:38 am »I had noticed that after I posted. Any chance of turning the shaping point (on 14A) at Calle de Tetuan into a visible point? OSM shows it as RD SAC-19.Turns out it's in the 2022 log, so added points on 14 and 14A.
I am also surprised that RN10 doesn't bypass Antigua to the east and south.I was a bit surprised too, but it doesn't seem to be a great quality bypass, including the one-way connections at each end.
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: Guatemala: gtmrn, gtmsf, naca
« Last post by ntallyn on May 23, 2024, 10:30:42 pm »I had noticed that after I posted. Any chance of turning the shaping point (on 14A) at Calle de Tetuan into a visible point? OSM shows it as RD SAC-19.
I am also surprised that RN10 doesn't bypass Antigua to the east and south.
I haven't noticed anything else from my travels, but I can start taking a look at the posted references.
I am also surprised that RN10 doesn't bypass Antigua to the east and south.
I haven't noticed anything else from my travels, but I can start taking a look at the posted references.
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: usatr: United States select tourist routes
« Last post by neroute2 on May 23, 2024, 05:23:39 pm »Jefferson Highway is coming to Oklahoma: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/NsqxTPZ1NRE3SawZ/?mibextid=oFDknk
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In-progress Highway Systems & Work / Re: zafr: South Africa Main Provincial Roads
« Last post by shiggins on May 23, 2024, 05:01:20 pm »R64:
TreSt: Should be GroSt.
Dea: Should be BraSt_E.
+X858838: Could be replaced by a visible point at S448.
+X856244: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Florisbad (allegedly S262, according to OSM).
+X363475: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for New Tempe Airport (allegedly S1066, according to OSM).
R65:
You could break up a 45.38-mile stretch no visible points between N17 and R33 with a point at this road signed for Jericho Dam.
+X300334: Could be replaced by a visible point at the nearby intersection where R65 turns. The point could be called ToR33.
R66:
+X155345: Could be replaced by a visible point at D429.
+X318634: Could be replaced by a visible point at P298.
+X267392: Could be replaced by a visible point at D1897.
Mel: This point is not at an intersection. It could be moved two blocks south to Victoria Street or two blocks north to Downing Street.
+X831674: Could be replaced by a visible point at D255.
+X978612: Could be replaced by a visible point at D477.
+X339477: Could be replaced by a visible point at P323.
R67:
Consider adding a point at this road. The point could be labeled ToR61.
+X687518: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR12729.
+X325613: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Brakkloof.
R351: Wikipedia, OSM, and Google Maps say that R351 has a short concurrency with R67 south to here and then intersects R67 again here. The RDDA says that R351 only exists east of Whittlesea. As far as I can tell (there is very little Street View along the route.) R351 is only signed here, on a single sign at N6.
+X970047: Could be replaced by a visible point at MR649.
Sey: Should be MR703.
+X897684: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR2702.
You could break up a 41.12-mile stretch with no visible points by adding one at DR2055.
+X893987: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR2039.
BeaSt: Should be MR486 or RagRd.
+X378171: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR2024.
+X795796: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road previously signed for Shaw Park.
R68:
Gle: Should be BigSt.
+X921750: Could be replaced by a visible point at D471.
+X896032: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for the Isandlwana and Rorke’s Drift battlefields (allegedly P372 according to OSM).
P163, P164, P504, and P503: OSM has a hyphen between the second and third numbers of these roads (e.g., P16-3).
+X324668: Could be replaced by a visible point at P227.
R69:
We have the wrong western terminus for R69. It is signed turning left onto the bypass around Vryheid and was also signed along the bypass at R34 (before all the signs at that intersection disappeared). A sign at P34-4 confirms that R69 does not go into Vryheid.
P344: OSM has a hyphen between the second and third number of this road.
+X270351: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Hlobane (allegedly P268/P274, according to OSM).
+X662503: Could be replaced by s visible point at D29.
TreSt: Should be GroSt.
Dea: Should be BraSt_E.
+X858838: Could be replaced by a visible point at S448.
+X856244: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Florisbad (allegedly S262, according to OSM).
+X363475: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for New Tempe Airport (allegedly S1066, according to OSM).
R65:
You could break up a 45.38-mile stretch no visible points between N17 and R33 with a point at this road signed for Jericho Dam.
+X300334: Could be replaced by a visible point at the nearby intersection where R65 turns. The point could be called ToR33.
R66:
+X155345: Could be replaced by a visible point at D429.
+X318634: Could be replaced by a visible point at P298.
+X267392: Could be replaced by a visible point at D1897.
Mel: This point is not at an intersection. It could be moved two blocks south to Victoria Street or two blocks north to Downing Street.
+X831674: Could be replaced by a visible point at D255.
+X978612: Could be replaced by a visible point at D477.
+X339477: Could be replaced by a visible point at P323.
R67:
Consider adding a point at this road. The point could be labeled ToR61.
+X687518: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR12729.
+X325613: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Brakkloof.
R351: Wikipedia, OSM, and Google Maps say that R351 has a short concurrency with R67 south to here and then intersects R67 again here. The RDDA says that R351 only exists east of Whittlesea. As far as I can tell (there is very little Street View along the route.) R351 is only signed here, on a single sign at N6.
+X970047: Could be replaced by a visible point at MR649.
Sey: Should be MR703.
+X897684: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR2702.
You could break up a 41.12-mile stretch with no visible points by adding one at DR2055.
+X893987: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR2039.
BeaSt: Should be MR486 or RagRd.
+X378171: Could be replaced by a visible point at DR2024.
+X795796: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road previously signed for Shaw Park.
R68:
Gle: Should be BigSt.
+X921750: Could be replaced by a visible point at D471.
+X896032: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for the Isandlwana and Rorke’s Drift battlefields (allegedly P372 according to OSM).
P163, P164, P504, and P503: OSM has a hyphen between the second and third numbers of these roads (e.g., P16-3).
+X324668: Could be replaced by a visible point at P227.
R69:
We have the wrong western terminus for R69. It is signed turning left onto the bypass around Vryheid and was also signed along the bypass at R34 (before all the signs at that intersection disappeared). A sign at P34-4 confirms that R69 does not go into Vryheid.
P344: OSM has a hyphen between the second and third number of this road.
+X270351: Could be replaced by a visible point at this road signed for Hlobane (allegedly P268/P274, according to OSM).
+X662503: Could be replaced by s visible point at D29.