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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #135 on: January 20, 2023, 05:41:10 pm »
Not sure what you mean by "connecting to" here. Based on your having mentioned a graph connection, I interpreted that as using the same coords as existing NS NS1 CobRd. That, I can't get behind; I won't put a waypoint off of the road itself just to get a graph connection.

That makes sense. It is pretty far away from the bypass. Certainly far enough away that it doesn't demand a graph connection (see below).

and then continuing northward to join NS 101 at 1F. This sign makes it pretty clear that Cobequid Rd acts as the NS 1 exit from the Bypass.
I wanna leave this pretty much as-is, with one point for 1F/1K that 1PPI's all three routes together.
WRT a CobRd point on the bypass, I can see some merit to that. I may have just considered it 1PPI when first drafting the route, but OTOH, adding a point at the offramp could pull the bypass away from the 101/102 interchange in mapview.

The 1PPI seems adequate for travels in a NW-to-SE direction, but I mostly paid attention to the SE-to-NW movements, which still seem too complicated for one point IMO. If there's a CobRd (or NS 1) point on the bypass, adding it at the gore point would be appropriate.

On another note, should I reverse point order and make BedByp E-W? It functions as kind of an extension/bypass of the ends of two E-W corridors,  NS101/1 & NS7.

That would be more consistent, but I don't have a strong opinion.

(On that note, should it maybe be ON ONQEW for consistency?)

 ???  https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=mapcat&r=on.onqew
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #136 on: January 20, 2023, 05:42:06 pm »
Oscar, did you have any comments re the BC and SK routes?
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #137 on: January 20, 2023, 09:37:14 pm »

Don Valley Pkwy
  • Recommend moving DanAve to the overpass to match what was done at QueSt and DunSt

2) Looking like that shouldn't truly be changed.  Seems that while it's access to the DVP from Danforth Ave (or should it be Bloor Street? Not sure where the name swap officially happens.), it seems to have it's own road name of 'Royal Drive'.  So, maybe leave location as-is and relabel as 'RoyDr'?

So, yeah, it does indeed look like the ramp really does have the name of Royal Drive.
https://www.reddit.com/r/askTO/comments/lw33y5/does_anyone_know_why_theres_a_sign_for_royal/

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More recently, this stretch of road was renamed Royal Drive for the October 1951 visit of Princess Elizabeth to Toronto.

It's a very interesting read.

So, yeah....
DanAve -> RoyDr (& no location change)

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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #138 on: January 20, 2023, 10:17:59 pm »
Anyways, just submitted all the Ontario tweaks to the routes that are currently on the site.
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6308

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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #139 on: January 26, 2023, 09:50:56 pm »
Oscar, did you have any comments re the BC and SK routes?

Changes to SK (Ring Road, and corresponding changes to SK 6) are in my local copy. I agree with keeping the part between SK1/11 and LewDr, as a divided highway connector to SK1/11.

Changes recommended in BC (Golden Ears, and Knight St), to remove the non-freeway portions, also in my local copy.

UPDATE: Above changes, as well as a Datacheck error fix in QC, in https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6353

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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #140 on: February 03, 2023, 06:29:59 pm »
Thanks for making the updates.

Any more comments? If we're ready to move forward, who makes the change to systems.csv, etc?
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #141 on: February 04, 2023, 05:50:25 pm »
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6363
AB SheParkFwy truncated to 71St.

The 1PPI seems adequate for travels in a NW-to-SE direction, but I mostly paid attention to the SE-to-NW movements, which still seem too complicated for one point IMO. If there's a CobRd (or NS 1) point on the bypass, adding it at the gore point would be appropriate.
CobRd added.

On another note, should I reverse point order and make BedByp E-W? It functions as kind of an extension/bypass of the ends of two E-W corridors,  NS101/1 & NS7.
That would be more consistent, but I don't have a strong opinion.
Reversed.

(On that note, should it maybe be ON ONQEW for consistency?)
???  https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?units=miles&u=mapcat&r=on.onqew
Derp. Coffee must not have kicked in yet.

I've let cannf slide for a bit between real life and being knees deep in the siteupdate code.
Is there anything else outstanding in my regions?



Any more comments?
Golden Ears Way:
199A/201St -> one or the other per this rule. Maybe 199ASt as it's the exiting one; what would be signed if they didn't sign control cities instead?

If we're ready to move forward, who makes the change to systems.csv, etc?
Any one of us, I suppose. I think it'd be cool to let you do the honors in exchange for having done the peer review, as long as each of us sign off.
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #142 on: February 04, 2023, 07:19:22 pm »
Golden Ears Way:
199A/201St -> one or the other per this rule. Maybe 199ASt as it's the exiting one; what would be signed if they didn't sign control cities instead?

I'd go with 199ASt, based on its being the lower number.

GMSV indicates the exit is signed for neither 199ASt nor 201St; rather, as To TCH1.
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #143 on: February 05, 2023, 12:47:30 am »
Thanks for making the updates.

Any more comments? If we're ready to move forward, who makes the change to systems.csv, etc?

I'll work on the later Ontario routes to be added to the site once we've gotten the system up and running.

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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #144 on: February 05, 2023, 10:03:02 pm »
Golden Ears Way:
199A/201St -> one or the other per this rule. Maybe 199ASt as it's the exiting one; what would be signed if they didn't sign control cities instead?

I'd go with 199ASt, based on its being the lower number.

I was getting ready to pull in that change, and run Datacheck on it, from my old laptop. Then the laptop failed, perhaps permanently.

If it doesn't come back to life overnight (as has happened before), I'll e-mail the revised file to Jim tomorrow for him to plug in. Once I'm back from a short trip to North Carolina, I'll resume work on completing the transition to my new laptop, including figuring out how to submit Datacheck-able pull requests from there.

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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #145 on: February 06, 2023, 09:50:57 am »
Good news about datacheck is, there's no need to run it for minor non-newsworthy updates that only make changes to already-existing .wpt files.
https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=5359.msg30626#msg30626
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #146 on: February 07, 2023, 12:03:54 am »
Change to bc.golearsway now in the HB.

WRT my two regions (BC and SK), I think cannf is ready to activate.

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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #147 on: February 07, 2023, 10:09:59 am »
I'll see if I can get it done tonight. Any opinions on changing it to cansf?
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #148 on: February 07, 2023, 11:06:36 am »
I'mm neither for nor against.
As you noted, it would be consistent with other ***sf systems.
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Re: cannf: Canada Select Named Freeways
« Reply #149 on: February 07, 2023, 11:37:16 am »
Any opinions on changing it to cansf?

Go for it!