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Highway Data Discussion => In-progress Highway Systems & Work => Topic started by: michih on May 23, 2020, 11:42:14 am
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Actual status of the systems:
fragesd08 - Ardennes Routes Départementales
fragesd10 - Aube Routes Départementales
fragesd51 - Marne Routes Départementales
fragesd52 - Haute-Marne Routes Départementales
fragesd54 - Meurthe-et-Moselle Routes Départementales
fragesm54 - Métropole du Grand Nancy Routes Métropolitaines
fragesd55 - Meuse Routes Départementales
fragesd57 - Moselle Routes Départementales
fragesm57 - Metz Métropole Routes Métropolitaines
fragesd6ae - Collectivité européenne d'Alsace Routes Départementales (Bas-Rhin shp files (http://yakra.teresco.org/tmtools_demos/gisplunge/FRA/Bas-Rhin/))
fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines
fragesd88 - Vosges Routes Départementales
Legend:
Black=not yet drafted (not in HB), Red=devel, Orange=preview, Green=active
Notes to routes:
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/blob/master/hwy_data/FRA-GES/fragesd/README.md
Please report issues here!
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fragesd51 - Marne Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. About 400 routes for 2,500mi.
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frages.d003008: D8051A_M -> D8051A_N
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frages.d805108 (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frages.d805108&lat=49.934908&lon=4.537413&zoom=17) & frages.d098508gue (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frages.d098508gue&lat=49.934908&lon=4.537413&zoom=17): recommend a second waypoint at the roundabout, due to the way the junction is set up with multiple routes. It's sort of like one of these (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=nh.nh011&lat=43.4539080235286&lon=-71.56909346580507&zoom=16).
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frages.d805108 (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frages.d805108&lat=49.934908&lon=4.537413&zoom=17) & frages.d098508gue (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=frages.d098508gue&lat=49.934908&lon=4.537413&zoom=17): recommend a second waypoint at the roundabout, due to the way the junction is set up with multiple routes. It's sort of like one of these (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=nh.nh011&lat=43.4539080235286&lon=-71.56909346580507&zoom=16).
I dealed with this as you recommend in the past but changed my mind meanwhile. The "one wp per interchange" rule applies now. Won't change!
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recommend a second waypoint
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.333066&lon=2.888165
One wp? Two wps? Three? Four? Five?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.737873&lon=2.256092
One wp? Two, three or four?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.361691&lon=2.038932
One wp? Two, three or four?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.721487&lon=2.745338
One wp? 2, 3, 4, 5 or even 6?
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Future M route systems: https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=2976.msg20989#msg20989
fragesm54 - Métropole du Grand Nancy Routes Métropolitaines
fragesm57 - Metz Métropole Routes Métropolitaines
fragesmXX - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines
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These might be useful for Alsacian routes with the new Collectivité (not the Metropole of Strasbourg). Basically the two departmental systems stay intact (with the removal of Strasbourg Metropole), with a couple of cross-border routes renumbered, along with any duplicates. And the D1083 is now D83. All N roads in Alsace are now downgraded (mostly D10xx).
https://www.bas-rhin.fr/webdelib/files/unzip///seance_134651/19_Annexe_Regles_de_nommage.pdf
https://www.bas-rhin.fr/webdelib/files/unzip///seance_134651/20_ANNEXE_Rapport_RenumRd_CD67.pdf
https://www.bas-rhin.fr/webdelib/files/unzip///seance_134651/21_Carte_A0_renum_renom_RNRD_CEA_2020_04_16.pdf
OSM seems to have implemented it all, including Strasbourg (which includes downgrading of the free autoroutes to voie express, albeit not yet renumbered. Ditto the N4).
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Thanks! This will be useful!
Edit: I think (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivit%C3%A9_europ%C3%A9enne_d'Alsace) that the systems should be called:
fragesd6ae - Collectivité européenne d'Alsace Routes Départementales
fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines
The old departement numbers were 67 + 68 and the new one is 6AE :D
All N roads in Alsace are now downgraded (mostly D10xx).
Except of N159 if I got the source right "the RN159 being granted, it will remain RN159".
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fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines will be in preview with the next site update. About 47 routes for 144mi.
N83Str, N353 and N2350 have been renamed to M routes.
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The old departement numbers were 67 + 68 and the new one is 6AE
I think they actually remain 67 and 68 - the departments weren't abolished, merely their councils were and the administrative functions given to this new body (along with some devolved from the region). I think the code, as we would see it, for the new body is actually 6A, with the E standing for 'Collectivité européenne', but I'm not sure. In 2019, Paris' commune council and department council merged into a single commune council and INSEE gave it the new authority the code 75C (C for Commune) - that hasn't translated to number plates and all that, AFAICS. Similarly some of the DOMs are governed by Regional councils after department and region merged into one council and so are officially 97xR (R for region).
We can always drop the E later, if I turn out to be right.
Except of N159 if I got the source right "the RN159 being granted, it will remain RN159".
Not the best translation, but yes, the N159 remains untouched. AFAICS it's roughly* "NB: RN159 is a concession (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concession_(contract)), it remains RN159 - the Autoroutes, concessions or not, do not get renumbered."
Basically, because it's a road that isn't run by the State, but by a semi-private company on the state's behalf (it's a tolled tunnel), it didn't move to Alsace's control, and so they have no authority to renumber it. The tolled bits of A36 and A4 ditto. They aren't renumbering the free autoroutes that they have direct control over.
*taken from the text of the map, based on the little French I have and my knowledge of French roads.
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We can always drop the E later, if I turn out to be right.
Agree. Only renaming the wpt files will be annoying.
The document about downgraded N routes and the map do not mention N363 and N1083 but wikisara indicates that they have been downgraded to D1363 and D1083 from 2021-01-01.
https://routes.fandom.com/wiki/Route_nationale_fran%C3%A7aise_363
https://routes.fandom.com/wiki/Route_nationale_fran%C3%A7aise_1083
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fragesd6ae - Collectivité européenne d'Alsace Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. More than 750 routes for more than 3,400mi. I still need to check the routes in Bas-Rhin with shp files.
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fragesm54 - Métropole du Grand Nancy Routes Métropolitaines
fragesm57 - Metz Métropole Routes Métropolitaines
First M routes appeared on OSM in the last few days. I could not find M route signs in Metz on October 2020 GSV but in Nancy (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.6841147,6.2222091,3a,48.2y,0.63h,93.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTTcfdC5Om-Lh_sxVM6ZEsg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) :)
I should wait a little bit till the OSM update is (hopefully) complete.
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fragesd6ae - Collectivité européenne d'Alsace Routes Départementales will be in preview with the next site update. More than 750 routes for more than 3,400mi. I still need to check the routes in Bas-Rhin with shp files.
shp files checked and routes updated :)
see readme for notes: https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/blob/master/hwy_data/FRA-GES/fragesd/README.md
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fragesd6ae - Collectivité européenne d'Alsace Routes Départementales
fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines
6AE is confirmed being the official code: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:FR
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M31, M35, M37, M41, M45, M61, M63, M64, M83, M84 - fine
M93 - End -> RueMou_W
M111, M118 - fine
M120 - eastern end seems odd, so short from the main road (ex-N68). Not saying its wrong, saying its strange. (There's other odd ends, but this seemed the strangest). Double check where roads peter out in the city
M161, M165, M174, M184, M185, M194, M215, M221, M222, M223 - fine
M225 - D30 -> M30? (and add route, splitting D30) or is this D30 running for a stretch inside the Metropole?
M226 - add point in the middle of Eckwersheim to help distinguish where the route is
M263 - metropolitan boundary slightly south of A4. Acceptable fudge, though boundary runs along road and OSM has that bit as D263. Check
M284, M301, M302, M345 - fine
M351 - the transition point to D1004 is further west, between the M228 and A355 junctions (you have the wrong boundary)
M353, M384, M392, M400, M445, M451, M468, M468Hon, M484, M545, M563, M622, M718, M745, M863, M884, M885, M963, M2350 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6082
M93 - End -> RueMou_W
I think that the road (temporarily) ended here due to the motorway construction. M93 extends to Ernolsheim now according to September 2022 GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5607998,7.5696404,3a,35.8y,335.1h,80.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su5OR0JxtijP331ml8bBWUA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), also confirmed by OSM + GM. Thus, I've extended D93 and M93.
M120 - eastern end seems odd, so short from the main road (ex-N68). Not saying its wrong, saying its strange. (There's other odd ends, but this seemed the strangest). Double check where roads peter out in the city
Either shp files (I try to download them from noreaster right now but it's damn slow) or GSV. I remember that GSV was partially older when I drafted the system than M route signs appeared in the field. It seems that parts of Strasbourg are covered by Sommer 2022 GSV now. I'll have a deeper look into it when I have the shp files.
M225 - D30 -> M30? (and add route, splitting D30) or is this D30 running for a stretch inside the Metropole?
M225 intersects D30 according to September 2021 GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.6006272,7.5507455,3a,62.3y,72.84h,79.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGE_nLskw542Ly7waYOjjBA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
M263 - metropolitan boundary slightly south of A4. Acceptable fudge, though boundary runs along road and OSM has that bit as D263. Check
Also later...
M351 - the transition point to D1004 is further west, between the M228 and A355 junctions (you have the wrong boundary)
Dunno, I think it's as it is because the motorway (former A351) ended here. Changed now.
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6088
M120 - eastern end seems odd, so short from the main road (ex-N68). Not saying its wrong, saying its strange. (There's other odd ends, but this seemed the strangest). Double check where roads peter out in the city
M263 - metropolitan boundary slightly south of A4. Acceptable fudge, though boundary runs along road and OSM has that bit as D263. Check
Short answer: shp files coords.
Long answer for specific routes:
I've checked M223, M63, M185, M31 (very tiny adjustment to meet shp file coords), M120 (tiny adjustment), M468 (kept as-is because the shp end is not exatly where we put wps but in the junction, 0.02mi away), M263 (kept as-is to keep graph connection with M468, route is 0.13mi longer than in shp file), M392 (tiny adjustment), M41 (kept as-is although shp file end is 0.03mi beyond the junction) and M745.
M2350 is odd though. There is no 2020 shp file because A350 was downgraded to N2350 in 2015, the eastern segment of the now-N2350 to whatever in 2016, and the western segment to M2350 in 2021. OSM indicates "M2350" on the western segment only, GM "N2350" on both, wikisara (https://routes.fandom.com/wiki/Route_nationale_fran%C3%A7aise_2350) only indicates "M2350" for the segment downgraded in 2021. September 2022 GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5900304,7.7324245,3a,47.5y,46.06h,105.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snlp1DQdpikqN822ihwMYEg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) still indicates "N2350" on M35 (still signed as A35), and even "A350" on the next direction sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5910633,7.7347052,3a,26.5y,58.52h,107.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s96oJx6UBoLuTE74owXTekw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D96oJx6UBoLuTE74owXTekw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D342.86377%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192). The km0 post (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5920539,7.7396258,3a,15y,52.96h,88.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqD8S_coCjPEEoVlXyI61Yg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) indicates A350 too. No numbers beyond exit 2 on summer 2022 GSV.
I've now truncated M2350 from Avenue Herrenschmidt to exit 2 as indicated on OSM + wikisara + GSV with "old numbers".
https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/blob/master/hwy_data/FRA-GES/fragesd/README.md
`M353` west end between `M35`/`M400` interchange and `M84` could be `M401` (shp files + renumbering map) but OSM indicates it being `M353` all the way which makes pretty much sense, no updated numbering visible on 2020 GSV -> to be checked before activation
Done now. M353 is signed on August 2022 GSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5221041,7.6662307,3a,75y,139.82h,99.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjknCuC8TLhFriCB3EQditA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (and October 2020 too). Keep as-is, readme line removed.
`M445` south end (south of railway) on OSM differs to shp files, shp route is permanently closed according to 2008 + 2019 + 2022 GSV, drafted according to OSM
Confirmed by 2022 GSV. No sign at M392. Kept as-as.
3 point out of 119 shp file points for better understanding (first, last and where diverting):
F http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.580471&lon=7.687005
D http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.563141&lon=7.689964
L http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.558717&lon=7.687300
And just for completion:
- `M763` is only a short one-way street of `M63`, not drafted
OSM indicates M345 for the segment between "D" and "L" but there is really a M345 far away. Keep everything as-is.
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Further comments on fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines before activation?
The NMPs have been marked FP (https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6093/commits/71136844ddd0e60b43831239215f4c442926379d).
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Nothing more to say.
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fragesm6ae - Eurométropole de Strasbourg Routes Métropolitaines will be active with the next site update.
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D1, D1.1, D1.3, D1.4, D1.5 - fine
D1.6 - PlaMai -> RueSch
D1.7, D1.8, D1.9 - fine
D1B - D415_E -> D415
D1BIng, D1BRib, D1B1, D1B2, D1B3, D1B4 - fine
D2
- D20/D401 -> D20 (unless D401 should be added, in which case add)
- D401_N -> RueReg (unless D401 should be added, in which case add)
- move D201_N to roundabout to the north (route rerouted onto new road, old route closed)
- move D201_S to where D201_N currently is (route rerouted onto new road, old route closed)
D2B2 - fine
D3
- D503_W -> D503
- D51/D503 -> D51
D3.1, D3.2, D3B, D3B3, D3B4, D3B6, D4, D4.1, D4.2, D4.3, D4B, D4B1, D4B1Rae, D4B2, D4BBan - fine
D5, D5.1, D5.2, D5.3, D5.4, D5.5, D5.6, D5.8, D5.9, D5B1, D5B3, D6, D6.1, D6B, D6B1, D7, D7B - fine
D8 - swap D2_N and D2_S labels
D8.1, D8.2, D8.3, D8B1, D8B2 - fine
D8B3 - add point for Blvd des Nations as major road
D9, D9.1, D9.2, D9B, D9B1, D9B2, D9B3, D9B4 - fine
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D10, D10.1, D10.3, D10.4, D10.5, D10.6, D10.7, D10B, D11, D11.1 - fine
D11.2 - add point for Kreuzweg (leads to end of D10.5)
D11.3, D11.4, D11.5, D11.6, D11.8, D12, D12B, D12B1, D12B2, D12B3, D12B4, D12B6 - fine
D13, D13B, D13B1, D13B2, D13B3, D13B4, D13B5, D13B6, D13B8, D13B9 - fine
D14, D14B, D14BMan, D14BSop, D14B1, D14B2, D14B3, D14B4, D15, D15.1 - fine
D16, D16Hag, D16.1, D16.2, D16.3, D16.4, D16.5, D16.6, D17, D17.1, D17.2 - fine
D18, D18.1, D18.2, D18.3, D18.4, D18.5, D18.6, D18.7, D18B, D18B1, D18B2, D18B3, D18B4 - fine
D19, D19.1, D19.2, D19.3, D19B, D19B1, D19B2, D19B3 - fine
D20 - move D83 to a better location
D20Wit - D2/D401 -> D2
D20.1, D20.2, D20.3, D20.4, D20.5, D20B, D21, D21.1, D21.2 - fine
D21.3 - move D469 to roundabout
D21.4, D21.5, D21.6, D21.7 - fine
D21B - D23_W -> D23_E
D21B1, D21B2, D21B3, D22, D23 - fine
D23Ley - D9B/D12B -> D9B
D23.1, D23.2, D23.3, D23.4, D23.5, D23.6, D24, D24.1, D24.2, D24.3, D25, D25Ett, D25.1, D25.2, D26, D26.1, D26.2 - fine
D26.3 - D26 -> D26/D32
D26.4, D27, D27.1, D28, D29 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6273
D2
- D20/D401 -> D20 (unless D401 should be added, in which case add)
- D401_N -> RueReg (unless D401 should be added, in which case add)
D20Wit - D2/D401 -> D2
I've added two new routes: D401 and D2B. As usual, when the label indicates a route that isn't there, I usually forgot drafting the route (D3's D51/D503 wp is a rare exception)
D8 - swap D2_N and D2_S labels
_W/_E
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D30, D31, D32, D32.1, D32.2, D32.3, D32.4 - fine
D32.5 - D485 -> D483
D32.6, D32.7, D32.8, D32.9 - fine
D33
- does it reach the D426?
- D526_N is probably the wrong label as there's not actually a junction with the D526 there unless the D33 is the (unsigned) southbound route and D526 just the northbound. Also it seems like it's not in the right place.
D34, D34.1, D34.2, D34.3, D34.5, D34.6, D35, D35.1, D35.2, D36, D37, D38, D39 - fine
D40, D40.1, D40.2, D40.3, D40.4, D40.5, D41, D41.1, D41.2, D42, D42.1 - fine
D43, D44, D44.1, D44.2, D45, D47, D47.1, D47.2, D48, D48.2, D48.3, D48.4 - fine
D50, D51, D52, D53, D54, D55, D56, D56.1, D56.2, D56.3, D56.4, D57, D58, D59 - fine
D60, D61, D62, D64, D65, D66, D66Pfa, D66Rix, D67, D68, D69, D70 - fine
D72 - D227 -> D227_S
D73, D74, D75, D76, D77, D78, D79 - fine
D80 - D248_N / _S need suffix swapping
D81, D82 - fine
D83
- move D1059 slightly to (new?) junction
- D1B/D1B2 - is this not just 'D1B' with 'D1B2' included in that?
- add point corresponding to 'RueRad' to D3B3 or remove
D85, D86, D87, D88, D89, D90, D90Wol, D91, D92, D93, D94, D95 - fine
D96 - add point for RueMon (leads to A4 exit 42)
D97, D98, D99 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6276
D33
- does it reach the D426?
- D526_N is probably the wrong label as there's not actually a junction with the D526 there unless the D33 is the (unsigned) southbound route and D526 just the northbound. Also it seems like it's not in the right place.
D526 is the northbound route and D33 the soutbound route according to the Bas-Rhin shp files.
D526_N is currently exactly at the coords of the D526 shp file. Should I move it 200-300m to the south?
I only modified the coords for the D426 roundabout so far, since they've been a little bit off.
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D526_N is currently exactly at the coords of the D526 shp file. Should I move it 200-300m to the south?
I don't think it's off by that amount - it just seems a little late for the two directions to merge.
anyway, the 100s...
D2B, D100, D101, D102, D103, D103Asp, D104, D105 - fine
D106, D107, D108, D109, D110, D111, D112, D113, D114, D115 - fine
D116 - D633 is off (new build junction)
D117, D118, D119, D120, D121, D122, D123, D124, D125, D126 - fine
D127, D128, D129, D130, D131, D132, D133, D134, D135, D136 - fine
D137, D137Ses, D138, D139, D140, D141, D142, D143, D144, D145, D146 - fine
D147 - A35 is NMP
D148 - delete D148-88Bon
D149, D151, D152, D153 - fine
D155 - D430 -> D429/D430
D156 - D213 -> D214
D157, D158, D159, D160, D161, D162, D163, D164 - fine
D166 - A36 is NMP
D167, D170, D171, D172, D173, D175 - fine
D176 - D1340 -> D519/D1340
D177, D178, D179, D180, D181, D182, D183, D186, D187, D189 - fine
D190, D191, D191Urm, D192, D193, D196, D197, D198, D199 - fine
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D200, D201, D202, D203, D204, D205, D206, D206Ben, D207 - fine
D208 - DD111_E -> D111_E
D209, D210, D211, D212, D213, D214, D215, D216, D217, D218, D219 - fine
D220 - D228_W -> D228_E, D228_E -> D228_W
D222, D223, D224, D225, D226, D227, D227Wit, D228, D229, D230, D231 - fine
D232 - D59_S -> D59_W
D233, D234, D235, D236, D237, D238, D239, D240, D241, D242, D243, D244, D245 - fine
D246 - D734 -> D734/D752
D247, D248, D249, D250, D251 - fine
D252 - D919 is off (new roundabout)
D253, D254, D255, D256, D257, D258, D258Hir, D259, D260, D261, D263, D264, D266 - fine
D275, D280, D282, D283, D286, D288, D290, D292, D296, D297 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6290
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fragesm54 - Métropole du Grand Nancy Routes Métropolitaines
fragesm57 - Metz Métropole Routes Métropolitaines
First M routes appeared on OSM in the last few days. I could not find M route signs in Metz on October 2020 GSV but in Nancy (https://www.google.com/maps/@48.6841147,6.2222091,3a,48.2y,0.63h,93.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sTTcfdC5Om-Lh_sxVM6ZEsg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) :)
I should wait a little bit till the OSM update is (hopefully) complete.
Nancy looks quite advances according to 2021 GSV and OSM. Metz still looks bad.
fragesm54 - Métropole du Grand Nancy Routes Métropolitaines will be in devel state with some routes after the next site update
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Métropole du Grand Nancy Routes Métropolitaines will be in preview with the next site update. More than 20 routes for some 35mi.
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fragesm57 - Metz Métropole Routes Métropolitaines
I could not find M route signs in Metz on October 2020 GSV
Metz still looks bad.
OSM indicates some M routes since 2020 but they are not confirmed by October 2022 GSV. I didn't find a single M route sign all over the place in Metz.
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D300, D303, D304, D304Sau, D309, D310, D311, D314, D315, D319, D320, D321, D322, D323, D324 - fine
D325 - D1006 -> D100
D326, D327, D328, D329, D330, D331, D332, D333 - fine
D334 - guessing the maps we have (mostly using similar data) are wrong on where the border is.
D335, D337, D338, D339 - fine
D340 - move D740 to centre of roundabout
D341, D344, D348, D350, D351, D362, D370, D388, D392, D397, D401 - fine
D403 - border again, this time the river is an obvious border. Guessing Alsace maintains the bridge...
D404, D410, D411Pfe, CHE D411, D411, D414, D415, D415Wol, D416 - fine
D416B - D416 -> D300/D416
D417, D418, D419, D420, D421, D422, D423, D424, D425 - fine
D426 - RuePri -> RuePri_S
D427, D428 - fine
D429 - D430(9) -> D155/D430
D430, D430Wit, D431 - fine
D432
- D18.9 needs that route added (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6981989,7.305574,3a,21.8y,177.38h,87.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2GsUDpLuDvEg06hAO_6qbQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
- add point for Swiss route 247?
D433, D434, D435, D436, D437, D439, D441, D442, D444, D459 - fine
D463
- D11B doesn't meet D11B as that route needs adding (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.5351527,7.2579212,3a,75y,102.14h,87.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1spBKGDikN4mnXRSAVHxHAYA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) (that route also meets D473 and D724)
- add point to correspond with D473 RueFor (marked as D16 on OSM, with good reason (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.550468,7.444047,3a,32.6y,121.72h,75.79t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sOrWsSluU5tkpmBMjGsJGhQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DOrWsSluU5tkpmBMjGsJGhQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D31.693588%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192))
D466, D468, D468Dru, D468Nee, D469, D473, D481, D483 - fine
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D500, D501, D502 - fine
D503
- D3_W -> D3
- End -> CliLim (for Climbach Limits) or Win/Cli (for Wingen/Climbach) ?
D504 - fine
D505 - RueOrs_S -> RueOrs
D509, D510, D514, D517 - fine
D519 - D1340 -> D176/D1340
D521, D522, D523, D524, D524Tha, D525, D526, D529, D530, D531, D534, D535, D539, D541, D553, D570 - fine
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6395
D334 - guessing the maps we have (mostly using similar data) are wrong on where the border is.
The wp was where the shp file has the last point. GM has the border there too. OSM is right about the actual border line though, see mapillary (https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=49.0447608&lng=7.9044471947195&z=17&pKey=254421389705588&focus=photo).
We might think about a 0.04mi long DEU-RP D334-6ae route but signs in the field are obvious.
Changed.
D403 - border again, this time the river is an obvious border. Guessing Alsace maintains the bridge...
Wp also according to shp file and GM but yes, the river is obviously the border, likely maintained by Alsace. No mapillary pics available. A 0.01mi DEU-RP D403-6ae segment makes no sense.
Moved to river.
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D11B, D18.9, D600, D601, D602, D603, D604, D605, D606, D607, D608, D609 - fine
D611, D612, D613, D616, D617, D619, D620, D621, D622, D623, D624, D625, D627, D629 - fine
D630, D632, D633, D638, D642, D643, D645 - fine
D648 - D415/D468_X -> D48/D415_X
D650 - fine
D653 - D28 -> D28/D662
D654, D655, D657, D658, D659, D660, D662 - fine
D663 - D rather than M?
D666, D667, D668, D669, D670, D672, D675, D677, D680, D682, D683, D686, D690 - fine
D692 - D1061_S -> D800/D1061
D696, D697, D698, D699, D700, D701, D702, D703, D704, D705, D706, D707, D708, D709 - fine
D710, D711, D712, D713, D715, D716, D717, D718, D719 - fine
D720 - D1004 is off
D721, D722, D722Sch, D723, D724, D725 - fine
D726 - D246 -> D24
D727, D729, D730, D731, D732, D734, D735, D737, D738, D739 - fine
D740, D741, D742, D743, D744, D745, D747, D748, D750, D751 - fine
D752 - D734_W -> D734_N
D753, D754, D755, D756, D757, D758, D759, D766, D768, D769, D772 - fine
D774 - D1 -> D1.6
D777, D782, D783, D788, D790, D790Kir, D791, D793, D796 - fine
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D800, D801, D802, D803, D804, D805, D806, D807, D808, D809, D810, D813, D815, D816, D817, D818 - fine
D820, D821, D822, D823, D824, D825, D827, D829, D830, D832, D835, D842, D848 - fine
D850, D853, D854, D855, D857, D858, D866, D872, D883, D888, D888Nor, D897 - fine
D901, D903, D904, D906, D913, D917, D918, D919, D922, D924, D925, D927, D929 - fine
D930, D935, D942, D953, D957, D988, D993, D997 - fine
D1004 - D422/D2004 -> D422/D942 ? (numerical order)
D1059 - D424 -> D424_S
D1061, D1062, D1063, D1066, D1083, D1340, D1363, D1404, D1420 - fine
D1422 - D603_N -> D603_S
D2004 - D422/D1004 -> D422/D942 ? (numerical order)
D2029 - fine
D2420 - D392_S -> D315/D392
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https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/6407
D1422 - D603_N -> D603_S
D603_E
Did you check all 780 routes? If so, I'll check NMPs tomorrow.
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Did you check all 780 routes?
Any route I've not listed?
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Did you check all 780 routes?
Any route I've not listed?
Dunno. 780 is a lot. I just want to say "I'm happy that you did it" :)
You sometimes skip something and I wanted to be sure ;)
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No datacheck errors, NMPs checked and marked FP. Any further comments to Alsace before activation?
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I don't have further comment.
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fragesd6ae - Collectivité européenne d'Alsace Routes Départementales will be activated with the next site update. 780 routes for almost 3,500mi.
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fragesm57 - Metz Métropole Routes Métropolitaines
I could not find M route signs in Metz on October 2020 GSV
Metz still looks bad.
OSM indicates some M routes since 2020 but they are not confirmed by October 2022 GSV. I didn't find a single M route sign all over the place in Metz.
I finally found a blue M route sign from September 2024 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/LJyJZrCArpzVT3Yy9) :) However, most of GSV is still from 2022/23 (or older) showing only yellow D route signs. Most of mapillary pics are from 2017. OSM was mostly updated D -> M over the past months, sometimes refering to this wiki route list (https://www.wikimetz.fr/Routes_d%C3%A9partementales,_nationales_et_m%C3%A9tropolitaines_%C3%A0_Metz) :). GM does also indicate blue M routes meanwhile. This might be a GO for drafting the system :D
Edit: wikisara (https://routes.fandom.com/wiki/Metz_M%C3%A9tropole#Anciennes_nationales) does also have a route list, to be checked.
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This might be a GO for drafting the system
No :(
First, M1 in Saint-Julien-lès-Metz was signed in September 2024 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/rVBTmWDVGHPKneih9). OSM + wikimetz (https://www.wikimetz.fr/Routes_d%C3%A9partementales,_nationales_et_m%C3%A9tropolitaines_%C3%A0_Metz) indicated that there is a M1. D2 in Saint-Julien-lès-Metz is still indicates as D2 on OSM. D2 is not mentioned on wikimetz. M3 in Saint-Julien-lès-Metz is indicated as M3 on OSM but also not mentioned on wikimetz. August 2023 GSV (https://maps.app.goo.gl/N8vkoW8hJ9PMhTW76) does still indicate D2 and D3. All examples are in the same community and should thus all be M or D.
Second, Woippy belongs to the metropolis but OSM changes from M to D routes at the Metz city - Woippy community boundaries.
I need to wait for better evidence what routes have been changed, and what communities have M routes now. I should likely wait for 2024+ GSV coverage.
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I've traveled M999, M955, M4, M603 and M954 in the east of the Metz metropolis today. All routes outside of Metz are perfectly signed with blue M numbering. km posts are still yellow with D numberings. Intersecting routes are also signed with blue Ms. Back in 2023 (latest GSV), everything was still in yellow D.
M955 is also signed inside of Metz but M4 and M603 are not.