Travel Mapping
Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Solved Highway data updates => Topic started by: JoePCool14 on February 06, 2023, 12:10:07 pm
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I don't know if I'd call this an immediate change, rather a discussion, but I clinched IL-53 over the weekend and took this photo of the southern END marker.
(https://i.imgur.com/VW6nNJD.jpg)
...or at least, I thought I had clinched IL-53. When I went to log my route on TM, I noticed IL-53 supposedly connects back to I-55 directly, just slightly west of the intersection in the photo. Out in the field, there is no indication that IL-53 connects to I-55. Is there official documentation that says otherwise? Was this just implied because it's still maintained by IDOT? Am I splitting hairs over nothing? (Probably. But it bugs me since I actually didn't drive this tiny segment back to I-55!)
Take a look at some Street Views from the ramps and this intersection just east of I-55. Personally, I think it should be truncated to this intersection, with that very last southern (technically, western here) segment removed.
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Take a look at some Street Views from the ramps and this intersection just east of I-55. Personally, I think it should be truncated to this intersection, with that very last southern (technically, western here) segment removed.
The strangest part to me is that I couldn't find any IL 53 signs on the ramps for an exit signed for IL 53. This does seem like a reasonable change.
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The exit on I-55 is signed for IL-53 (https://goo.gl/maps/MTBfY8XZCLE1wwQX8), and has been since at least 2007 per StreetView, but I do see what you're talking about with no signage on the ramps themselves.
END shield at that location (https://goo.gl/maps/xAowesBmcubqVv769) has been present since at least Nov '08 per StreetView.
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Anyways, depending on what is decided, there are some other fixes that could be done on IL-53 in that area no matter what.
Both hidden points '+X01' & '+X02' are literately right on top of intersections. Might want to convert them to be usable points. ;)
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There's also this sign on southbound Old 66 bypass (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.185822,-88.317503,3a,75y,237.47h,89.87t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sb0Y2uaayI9VmGzLC6fLkmQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Db0Y2uaayI9VmGzLC6fLkmQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D85.48684%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192) that doesn't have an arrow for 53 pointing to I-55. So you're probably right that 53 should end at this intersection.
I was going to check the Grundy County IL map but, despite the date of 2015 (https://www.grundycountyil.gov/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/County_Road_Map.pdf), it still has not only IL 129 on the map at Gardner but US 66 south of it! So it's not totally reliable.
Semi-vaguely-related: The north end of IL 129 is now a northbound-only exit/entrance at I-55. There WAS a southbound left exit, but sometime after 2008 that exit was removed, most likely to avoid replacing the bridge, but the concrete pillars remain to this day! (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3138869,-88.1918622,3a,75y,36.27h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siXlJz1fDYprhPr-QomyKJw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
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Semi-vaguely-related: The north end of IL 129 is now a northbound-only exit/entrance at I-55. There WAS a southbound left exit, but sometime after 2008 that exit was removed, most likely to avoid replacing the bridge, but the concrete pillars remain to this day! (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3138869,-88.1918622,3a,75y,36.27h,94.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siXlJz1fDYprhPr-QomyKJw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
There was also a NB left too for a U-Turn movement per StreetView. :o
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Oh, Highway63, on a side note. Might want to quickly as well fix the "KirRd" point in IL-53's file when you deal with this too. Way off it's correct location for the interchange there. Thankfully, no other routes effected by this off-center point.
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Anyways, depending on what is decided, there are some other fixes that could be done on IL-53 in that area no matter what.
Both hidden points '+X01' & '+X02' are literately right on top of intersections. Might want to convert them to be usable points. ;)
Oh, Highway63, on a side note. Might want to quickly as well fix the "KirRd" point in IL-53's file when you deal with this too. Way off it's correct location for the interchange there. Thankfully, no other routes effected by this off-center point.
Bump these issues with IL-53.
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I thought I had these, but hadn't sent them until I worked on a monthly batch.
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I thought I had these, but hadn't sent them until I worked on a monthly batch.
Thanks for fixing 'KirRd', but the other issue with the 2 shaping points on-top of intersections sadly still remains.
When you do make '+X01' & '+X02' into visible points, "US66HisChi" will need to be adjusted as well to keep it synced with IL-53 in that area.
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I thought I added those, to IL 53 at least. I must have copied the wrong set of labels.