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Highway Data Discussion => Updates to Highway Data => Topic started by: Markkos1992 on December 04, 2023, 08:38:02 pm
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https://transportation.org/route/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2023/12/Final_Report_USRN_Fall_2023_R_1.pdf
I am too tired to do much else with this for now, but yes, US 78 was approved to go into AR. :pan:
I believe the US 1 removal is the decommissioning of US 1 ALT (Franklinton, NC).
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And we got an extension of I-27 in TX too!
Wonder how TXDot is gonna deal with the exit numbers for it. lol.
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Here's the text of the items, all approved (the withdrawn ones 'with condition', and the condition seems to be that the states withdrew it!). The next post will turn this into something more collapsed.
- Item 9: Alabama, US 411 Relocation of existing route
Description: Route begins on existing US 411 at milepost 532.340 Southwest of Centre, Alabama to milepost 517.979. The relocated segment route is 14.361 miles. The route will end on existing US 411 in Gadsden, Alabama. - Item 10: Arkansas, US 78 Extension of US route
Description: Extension of US Highway 78 into Arkansas to connect to future I-57 through the major cities in Northeast Arkansas. Starting on US Highway 67 (Future I-57) South of Walnut Ridge/Hoxie, AR on highway 226 for 12.5 miles, continue onto US Highway 49 for 6.5 miles before turning south onto I-555 in Jonesboro, AR. Continues on I-555 for 5.25 miles before exiting on Highway 18 Spur in Jonesboro, AR. Travel north on Highway 18 Spur for 0.5 miles to Highway 18 eastward for 50 miles to I-55 in Blytheville, AR, then turning south on I-55 for 60 miles to the interchange with I-40. Travel 2.5 miles on Interstate 40/55 through West Memphis, AR before diverging south onto I-55 heading southeastward for 4.0 miles to Tennessee State Line. - Item 11: Arkansas, US 412 Relocation of existing route
Description: Starting at the current interchange with US Highway 63 and US Highway 412 Business travel approximately 6.5 miles eastward along US Highway 63 to the Interchange with US Highway 67. Then turning north on US Highway 67 travel for 2.0 miles before exiting at the Highway 67/412 interchange on the east side of Walnut Ridge/Hoxie. - Item 12: Arkansas, Business Route 412 Recognition of business route
Description: Starting at the Intersection of U.S. Highway 63 heading eastward on U.S. Highway 412 Business for 6.5 miles to the interchange of U.S. Highway 67 and U.S. Highway 412 on the east side of Walnut Ridge, AR. - Item 13: Florida, Business Route US 98B Deletion of a route
Description: Proposing to remove the US Route designation on USB-98/SR30/Beck Avenue at beginning mile point 2.962 to US-231/SR-75/Harrison Avenue at ending mile point 6.362, which is 3.400 miles long. Route is bi-directional. - Item 14: Georgia, US 84 Relocation of route
Description: This action is part of the intersection improvement on the east end of the Bainbridge Bypass to reduce the crash frequency and/or severity of both drivers and pedestrians in Decatur County, GA. It involves realigning sections of SR38/US84 and SR38B/US84B. Route segment starts at 0.18 mile South of N Pipeline St. and ends at 0.43 mile East of N. Pipeline St. - Item 15: Georgia, US 84B Realignment of route
Description: This action is part of the intersection improvement on the east end of the Bainbridge Bypass to reduce the crash frequency and/or severity of both drivers and pedestrians in Decatur County, GA. It involves realigning sections of SR38/US84 and SR38B/US84B. Route segment starts at 0.005 miles west of N. Pipeline St and ends at its intersection with the new alignment of SR38/US84BU. - Item 16: Michigan, Business Route US 31 Deletion of route
Description: Deletion of Business Route US 31 in Pentwater and Oceana County. Business route was 7.3 miles long which started and ended at US 31 and passed through Village of Pentwater. Jurisdiction that made up the business route has been turned back from MDOT to the local agencies where the road will be maintained in a way that is more compatible with its current use. - Item 17: North Carolina, US 1 Deletion of route
Description: US 1 in Franklin County, Southwest of Franklinton, going north along US 1 Alternate through the town of Franklinton. The route is traveling on a twolane, undivided facility with a portion of the route traveling through the central business district of Franklinton, where on-street parking exists. The route is approximately 2.7 miles in length and ends at US 1 in Franklin County, north of Franklinton. - Item 18: North Carolina, US 70 Relocation of route
Description: US 70 is proposed to be relocated due to approval of I-42 along an existing portion of US 70 between I-40 and US70 Business. The route is going along existing US 70 Business in Wake and Johnston Counties. The route is traveling along a multi-lane, divided facility going through the municipalities of Garner and Clayton. The route will cover approximately 11.88 miles, and will end at US 70/US 70 Business interchange. - Item 19: North Carolina, US 70B Deletion of route
Description: US 70 Business is proposed to be eliminated as part of the relocation of US 70. The route begins at I-40/US 70 interchange in Garner. The route is traveling along a multi-lane, divided facility, going east through the municipalities of Garner and Clayton. The route is approximately 11.88 miles, and ends at the US 70/US 70 Business interchange south of Clayton in Johnston County. - Item 20: North Dakota, US 85B Establishment of a temporary route
Description: Temporary US 85B route will begin at the junction of US 2 and US 85, the end point of the NE Truck Reliever Route approved in 2013. It will travel east along Williams County Road 6 approximately 0.4 miles to the end of a previously constructed 4 lane road; then easterly approximately 2 miles on a newly constructed 4 lane road with a new bridge over the Little Muddy River. Continuing to the intersection of Williams County Road 9 then south along existing Williams County Road 9 for approximately 6.5 miles to the junction of ND1804. - Item 21: Tennessee, US 78 Extension of US route
Description: Extension US Highway 78 onto Interstate 55 and into Arkansas. Starting at the Arkansas state line head southeastward on Interstate 55 for approximately 0.6 miles to the Interchange of I-55 and E.E.H. Crump Blvd in Memphis, TN. Then, continue eastward along E.E.H. Crump Blvd for another 1.1 mile to the Intersection of E.E.H. Crump Blvd and S Danny Thomas Blvd - Item 22: Tennessee, US 78 Relocation of an existing route
Description: Relocate of a portion of US Highway 78 along E.E.H. Crump Blvd in Memphis, TN to remove truck traffic from downtown as part of the extension of US Highway 78 into Arkansas. Starting at the intersection E.E.H. Crump Blvd and S Danny Thomas Blvd head eastward along E.E.H. Crump Blvd for 1.4 miles to Intersection of E.E.H. Crump Blvd and Martin Luther King Blvd in Memphis, TN where route 78 continues eastward. - Item 23: Tennessee, US 78 Deletion of route
Description: Starting at S 2nd Street in Memphis, TN travel 2.5 miles eastward along Martin Luther King Blvd to the intersection with E.E.H. Crump Blvd. Removing of a portion of US Highway 78 that is to be relocated along E.E.H. Crump Blvd in Memphis, TN as part of the extension of US highway 78 into Arkansas. - WITHDRAWN
Item 24: Arkansas, I-42 Establishment of new segment
Description: New intestate added along US 412 from I-35 in Noble County, Oklahoma to I-49 in Springdale, Arkansas. With connection to interstate routes at both ends as well as connection to I-44/I-244 in Tulsa. The length of the route is 190 miles. Approximately 11 miles along the eastern portion of the proposed route will be utilizing the newly constructed Arkansas Route 612 (Springdale Northern Bypass) connection to I-49. The proposed route will provide essential freeway connectivity between I-35 in Noble County, OK, I-44 in Tulsa, OK, and I-49 in Springdale, AR. - Item 25: Oklahoma, I-335 Establishment of a new route
Description: Assign an interstate number to a currently unnumbered Turnpike. The route begins at the junction of I-44 and the Kickapoo Turnpike, East of Oklahoma City. It will proceed South for a total of 18.71 miles of the junction of I40 and the Kickapoo Turnpike. The Kickapoo Turnpike is a 4 to 6 lane, Dual Carriageway Facility that is Full Access Control. - Item 26: Oklahoma, I-344 Establishment of a new route
Description: This route begins at the junction of I-240/John Kilpatrick TP on the South West side of the City of Oklahoma City, OK. It proceeds around the west and north sides of the City of Oklahoma City. The focal point city along this route is Oklahoma City, Ok. I-344 is a 4 and 6 lane, dual carriageway Facility that is full access control. The proposed route will be 30.89 miles. It ends at the junction of the John Kilpatrick TP/I-35 on the North side of the city of Oklahoma City - WITHDRAWN
Item 27: Oklahoma, I-42 Establishment of a new route
Description: The route begins at I-35 in Noble County, Oklahoma. The route will run east along existing US 412 and dual route designation of US 412/I-244 through Tulsa. Alternative alignments will be evaluated as needed in eastern Oklahoma and western Arkansas. The route will cover approximately 190 miles. The route ends at I-49 interchange of the newly constructed Arkansas Route 612 (Springdale Northern bypass) in Arkansas. - Item 28: Texas, US 87, I-27 Establishment of New Segment
Description: TX DOT proposes a new routing, IH 27 to coincide with US 87 from the existing IH 27. The route will extend 4.2 miles to the South of the current IH 27 terminus in Lubbock, TX to the limits of US 87. Lubbock, TX is the focal point city with access control located approximately 0.1 mile north of Country Road 7500 South of Lubbock
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Summary list
- Alabama, US 411 Relocation - ???
- Arkansas, US 78 Extension to Future I-57 south of Walnut Ridge/Hoxie along AR226, US49, I-555, AR18 Spur, AR18, I-55
- Arkansas, US 412 Relocation of existing route around Walnut Ridge/Hoxie using US63 and US67
- Arkansas, Business Route 412 Recognition along current route through Walnut Ridge/Hoxie
- Florida, Business Route US 98B (Panama City) Truncation - Route west of US231 removed (also, it is apparently part of FL30)
- Georgia, US 84 / US84B (Bainbridge) Relocation - interchange moved slightly, already on OSM. (also GA38/GA38 Bus)
- Michigan, Business Route US 31 (Pentwater) Deletion - MDOT handing over route to local agencies, may continued to be signed
- North Carolina, US 1 Alt (Franklinton) Deletion
- North Carolina, US 70 Relocation over US 70B (Smithfield) - through Clayton only
- North Dakota, US 85B (Williston) Establishment of a temporary route - already in browser? (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=nd.us085bypwil)
- Tennessee, US 78 Extension - relocated around downtown Memphis along Crump Blvd, then along I-55 to the state border
- WITHDRAWN
Arkansas, Oklahoma I-42 Establishment - Oklahoma, I-335 Establishment - Kickapoo Turnpike
- Oklahoma, I-344 Establishment - John Kilpatrick Turnpike
- Texas I-27 Extension south from Lubbock along US87 to CR7500 (just north of Lp493
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Thank you si404 for allowing me to sleep.
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The US 70 Bus reversion to US 70 is for Clayton, not Smithfield
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The US 70 Bus reversion to US 70 is for Clayton, not Smithfield
it's the Smithfield route in our browser.
Theory: did OK get the 3xx numbers for the Fut240 renumbering the wrong way around? Kilpatrick meets I-35, Kickapoo doesn't.
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I-335 in the far future is supposed to connect to I-35 south of Norman somewhere.
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- North Dakota, US 85B (Williston) Establishment of a temporary route - already in browser? (https://travelmapping.net/hb/showroute.php?r=nd.us085bypwil)
Yeah I was reading that and it sounds like ND's just making it official. Might be they're planning on relocating it?
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Looks like the 85B is indeed temporary until this (https://www.dot.nd.gov/projects/williston/docs/Williston-NE-TRR-FONSI-(PCN%2020788).pdf) project gets off the ground. Don't know why they didn't just make an ND 1804 truck route but whatever.
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- Alabama, US 411 Relocation - ???
This one was ALDOT finally catching up for a new alignment north of Gadsden that is already in TM.
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yes, US 78 was approved to go into AR. :pan:
Major NEA cities, US67, Walnut Ridge / Hoxie... My first thought was they might run it up along I-555. But nooooo. Then I read more. :pan: is right.
ARDOT did the right thing by straightening out US63. And now they're making up for it with this. :P
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US 1 ALT in Franklinton, NC, is still signed from US 1 as of Saturday.
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Was there a map version/packet of this list somewhere?
Because I look at what's written for US 78 and it makes absolutely no freaking sense, but on the other hand, it's Arkansas.
(Yakra appears to have covered this, but I must "WTF, Arkansas?" any and all times necessary.)
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No maps on the forum thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=34216.msg2898779#msg2898779).
However, the US 78 thread has a link to the map in the first post (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=34049.msg2879139#msg2879139).
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New thread for US 78 (at least in TN): https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=6153.msg34126;topicseen#msg34126
I guess yakra is on another long hiatus, but I really would have liked any thread on this to be AR/TN.
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New thread for US 78 (at least in TN): https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=6153.msg34126;topicseen#msg34126
I guess yakra is on another long hiatus, but I really would have liked any thread on this to be AR/TN.
I modified it.
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Drove OK 152, Kilpatrick and Kickapoo today. Goog, Waze and OSM have them marked as the new numbers.
Guess what...
No signs!!! (don't expect them for several months. :pan: )
we wait...
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Drove OK 152, Kilpatrick and Kickapoo today. Goog, Waze and OSM have them marked as the new numbers.
Almost certainly one over-zealous editor changing (at least) one of them, then the others got changed thanks to citogenesis.
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Side note - Interesting they chose I-344 when OK 344 exists in Tulsa (Gilcrease Expressway)
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Drove OK 152, Kilpatrick and Kickapoo today. Goog, Waze and OSM have them marked as the new numbers.
Almost certainly one over-zealous editor changing (at least) one of them, then the others got changed thanks to citogenesis.
Goog was in before OSM was unfortunately.
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Side note - Interesting they chose I-344 when OK 344 exists in Tulsa (Gilcrease Expressway)
340 was available, no?
Unless they want to use that for the Muskagee?
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Already has a state route number (OK-351)
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Drove OK 152, Kilpatrick and Kickapoo today. Goog, Waze and OSM have them marked as the new numbers.
Almost certainly one over-zealous editor changing (at least) one of them, then the others got changed thanks to citogenesis.
Goog was in before OSM was unfortunately.
the Goog is full of issues like this. Random AI/Person in a desk in a place where labour is really cheap receives a request, backed up with a source. They approve.
London's transit layer repeatedly loses the Elizabeth line and regains it (as it's not part of the London Underground, but also it's a key part of the TfL network) and Battersea Power Station tube station flicks between being shown on the map as 'Battersea Power' and the correct name because of a few transit YouTubers' in jokes meaning people who've likely never been to London (and are probably 13) file corrections that Google accepts based on the source due to them having little-to-no knowledge of the issue and no ability to detect sarcasm and then someone else corrects with better sources and there's little to no cross referencing.
Think the jokey edits on Wikipedia without the dedicated (and often humourless) people reverting them. At least these Interstate numbers are real and the issue is it not yet being signed (cf the AARW on I-515, where it's a redirect to I-11, even though it's premature).
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New thread created for the deletion of US 31 BUS (Pentwater, MI): https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=6258.0
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AR:
US78 ext W to US67 (https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7440)
US 412 Walnut Ridge (https://github.com/TravelMapping/HighwayData/pull/7476)
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- Item 18: North Carolina, US 70 Relocation of route
Description: US 70 is proposed to be relocated due to approval of I-42 along an existing portion of US 70 between I-40 and US70 Business. The route is going along existing US 70 Business in Wake and Johnston Counties. The route is traveling along a multi-lane, divided facility going through the municipalities of Garner and Clayton. The route will cover approximately 11.88 miles, and will end at US 70/US 70 Business interchange. - Item 19: North Carolina, US 70B Deletion of route
Description: US 70 Business is proposed to be eliminated as part of the relocation of US 70. The route begins at I-40/US 70 interchange in Garner. The route is traveling along a multi-lane, divided facility, going east through the municipalities of Garner and Clayton. The route is approximately 11.88 miles, and ends at the US 70/US 70 Business interchange south of Clayton in Johnston County.
Presumably with I-42 on the Clayton Bypass being in our browser, the rerouting of US70 and the related truncation of US70B should also be implemented?
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- Item 18: North Carolina, US 70 Relocation of route
Description: US 70 is proposed to be relocated due to approval of I-42 along an existing portion of US 70 between I-40 and US70 Business. The route is going along existing US 70 Business in Wake and Johnston Counties. The route is traveling along a multi-lane, divided facility going through the municipalities of Garner and Clayton. The route will cover approximately 11.88 miles, and will end at US 70/US 70 Business interchange. - Item 19: North Carolina, US 70B Deletion of route
Description: US 70 Business is proposed to be eliminated as part of the relocation of US 70. The route begins at I-40/US 70 interchange in Garner. The route is traveling along a multi-lane, divided facility, going east through the municipalities of Garner and Clayton. The route is approximately 11.88 miles, and ends at the US 70/US 70 Business interchange south of Clayton in Johnston County.
Presumably with I-42 on the Clayton Bypass being in our browser, the rerouting of US70 and the related truncation of US70B should also be implemented?
Signage will not be complete on this until some time early next year. I am on the side of holding off on this for now. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?msg=2940434)
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Signage will not be complete on this until some time early next year. I am on the side of holding off on this for now. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?msg=2940434)
I was quite surprised the Clayton bypass segment of I-42 is in the browser already because of that date for signage completion.
Given that this change is
1) the simple removal of banner plates
2) the swapping of US70 shields for I-42 shields (including on BGS)
I find it strange our browser views the harder #2 done, but not the easier #1. Surely it's both or neither are done?
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It is a bit of number two with new signs at the moment (the most notable I-42 EB shields coming from the newly opened NC 540 EB and new signs on I-40). https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?msg=2944603
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I don't think about these things to that degree much, but the appearance of 1 sign on any route makes it addable to TM, while quite often the removal of a route requires removing (nearly) all signs.
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Item 26: Oklahoma, I-344 Establishment of a new route
Description: This route begins at the junction of I-240/John Kilpatrick TP on the South West side of the City of Oklahoma City, OK. It proceeds around the west and north sides of the City of Oklahoma City. The focal point city along this route is Oklahoma City, Ok. I-344 is a 4 and 6 lane, dual carriageway Facility that is full access control. The proposed route will be 30.89 miles. It ends at the junction of the John Kilpatrick TP/I-35 on the North side of the city of Oklahoma City
Seems to be in the process of being signed
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=34805.msg2953774#msg2953774
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I can personally confirm that I-335 is entirely signed, I-344 is in the process of being signed, and the I-240 extension has not been signed yet.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=34805.msg2954011#msg2954011
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New thread for I-335 and I-344: https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=6609.0
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US 84 & Business 84 in Bainbridge GA were updated recently, probably in response to this thread, but there's no explanation of what was changed in the updates entry. Neither route has a point for the former junction.
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The new point is less than 300 feet from the old point. To me, it didn't appear to be much bigger a change than realigning a curve.
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Is it worth an updates entry if it's just a realigned curve?
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Is it worth an updates entry if it's just a realigned curve?
No.
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The US 70 Bus reversion to US 70 is for Clayton, not Smithfield
it's the Smithfield route in our browser.
Theory: did OK get the 3xx numbers for the Fut240 renumbering the wrong way around? Kilpatrick meets I-35, Kickapoo doesn't.
I started a new thread combining the NC 42 to NC 36 and US 70 BUS back to US 70 in Clayton. (https://forum.travelmapping.net/index.php?topic=6687.msg36951;topicseen#msg36951)